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Watch Dogs: Legion 4K RT ON/OFF comparison (RTX 3080)
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llien
Member
Because, wait for it, why on earth would you invest major effort into something only a fraction of the market would even be able to switch on, and even smaller would actually do.
It will be the same story with CP2077.
Stuart360
Member
There actually is a wow factor, this vid doesnt show the ifferences that well imo.
I'm currently watching someone play the game with RT off, and i watched CohhCarnage play the game earlier with RT on full. The difference is quite staggering, and i'm someone who is NOT sold on RT.
There was a part ealier with Cohh, where he drove down this street with a ton of glass store fronts, and his verhicle was beibng reflected all over the place, at different angles in different windows. It really was quite impressive.
THE DUCK
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Interesting, while the non RTX doesn't look bad per say, at least with this particular game, I feel it does look a lot more realistic with RTX on. However, it's my understanding that how an image looks without Ray Tracing has a lot to do with how developers implement lighting, and I have no idea if UBI did a great job with that or a poor job.
Crm114
Member
If theres some kind of clip and you could share that would be appreciated!
diffusionx
Gold Member
I am sure that everyone will be impressed by it when it is implemented half as well on PS5.
N30RYU
Member
everyone with low enough criteria to buy it...
llien
Member
Sony has PS4 games that look much more impressive than this, imagine what they'll do on PS5.
Stuart360
Member
Cant find the specific part i mentioned, but watch this from 1:09 to see what it looks like after rain. A ton of relections.
EDIT. Its not the part i mean but if you watch the building on the left at 1:12:11, you can see his car being relected at a front angle, pretty cool looking.
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Soulblighter31
Banned
It wont. Cyberpunk has the entire range of possible raytracing effects. Including ilumination and shadows next to reflections. You're gonna see raytracing in every scene in that game - light and shadows are present everytime.
As for Watch Dogs, its extremely heavy on hardware. It barely runs on 3080's and 3090's as is seeing todays benchmark videos that have come up on youtube. You cant load the engine with more rtx.
oh you dont say ? Which ones are that ? Surely you dont mean those empty games where you traverse hallways and have 5 npc's on screen max, no ? Which one of ps4's games mimmicks an entire city with hundreds of AI routines working at once and use more advanced rendering effects ?
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Compsiox
Banned
Realistic shadows. The shadows are too dark with RTX off.
martino
Member
i really hope amd will deliver
that blood pressure because of salt saturation is reaching pity level.
more on topic : i see only reflections...so meh
and huge shame in most of those nigh sequence with all those lights with different colors
Bonfires Down
Member
The reflections are nice for sure, but some of the other scenes?
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Where did they get that 3080? and when are they starting the auction on eBay?
regawdless
Banned
Reflections look nice... But man, that game looks flat as hell. It would benefit way more from RT lighting.
I got it for free with my 3080, so I'll check it out. Am not impressed though so far, at least judging by the videos. The character model looks wrong, the faces look bad... Urgh.
I got it for free with my 3080, so I'll check it out. Am not impressed though so far, at least judging by the videos. The character model looks wrong, the faces look bad... Urgh.
Mister Wolf
Member
This is why using it for reflections is a waste. Its low hanging fruit. Get your weight up and enable some real time light bounce developers.
ethomaz
Banned
The water is impressive.
For now what the hardware can do is something hybrid.
In some decades with 100-200TFs GPU we will see full ray-tracking.
For now what the hardware can do is something hybrid.
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llien
Member
Horizon, GoW.
I didn't count NPCs, counting NPCs is a new concept to me. Surely, I've seen more than a dozen enemies attack at once in both games.
Are you for real, son?
This is how Quake RT frame looks like, before denoising kicks in:
And even picture above is using tricks, not true RT. More on it here
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sobaka770
Banned
I think it's a bit hard to tell the improvements apart from reflections on water which are genuinely nice and noticeable.
I would also say that a lot of RTX changes are hard to notice because devs learned how to fake shadows and lights pretty well but the overall "correctness" of the image will shine through more with RTX enabled, such as cleaner shadows, more correct lights etc.
I would also say that a lot of RTX changes are hard to notice because devs learned how to fake shadows and lights pretty well but the overall "correctness" of the image will shine through more with RTX enabled, such as cleaner shadows, more correct lights etc.
EliteClarity
Member
Looks great where water is involved but if I didn't know where I was looking elsewhere, doubt I would notice. Then again, I am a moron so....
BluRayHiDef
Banned
The graphics are unappealing. Apart from the spiky leather jacket worn by the playable character, everything looks poor; the output resolution is high, but the textures and character models lack detail. It's a very strange look.
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Dampf
Member
Nah. The userbase with RT hardware will grow more and more.
And CP2077 will use all sorts of RT effects much more than just reflections, the difference will be striking there. Literally current vs next gen style.
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LaughingStock
Member
Raytracing is like ambient occlusion and tesselation. And other technologies that came before. It's a cool effect, but too performance intensive and not much worth it right now. But it'll be normalized eventually.
makaveli60
Member
It's still ridiculous to me how much performance is wasted on such a tiny, minimal visual improvement that is just a gimmick currently. I really hope developers will soon forget this and bring us real nextgen visuals like the UE5 demo.
Great Hair
Banned
Why waste dev.time on this? Are devs. now going to work extra to have both "modes" in their games? Thought we wanted to reduce working time, load ... pick one and be done with it. Not worth it at all.
01011001
Banned
that UE demo also only looked as good because of raytracing. their Lumen tech uses software based raytracing AO and GI, also spoiler, they currently work on an efficient way to expand lumen to include raytraced reflections on smooth surfaces, they already support it for rougher reflections that don't need much detail.
the only tech that can realistically bring a next gen feeling from this point on is raytracing.
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iHaunter
Member
The reflections are nice for sure, but some of the other scenes?
It was quite different, your monitor could be bad enough not to notice. Color temperature is far more accurate with RTX On.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Let me get my magnifying glass out for this one. Nice puddles 
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Insane Metal
Member
I don't get the priorities. The game got RT but the hair and many textures still look like dog shit.
notseqi
Member
I'm an AMD fanboy:
RTX ON looks better but I don't care for it. The graphics are great as is and I don't feel the need for better lighting/reflections. I don't want or need photorealistic scenery but if they would improve textures to make a more realistic image I'd reconsider my interest in lighting.
RTX ON looks better but I don't care for it. The graphics are great as is and I don't feel the need for better lighting/reflections. I don't want or need photorealistic scenery but if they would improve textures to make a more realistic image I'd reconsider my interest in lighting.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
No thanks I'll keep my 60 fps rather than having marginal better puddle reflections..
makaveli60
Member
I haven't heard about that it looks that good because of raytracing yet. Good if true. Though my point is that I hope developers will find a way to spend the nextgen consoles' power budget more efficiently to wow us instead of wasting on such marginal improvements like the above, regardless if they use raytracing or not.
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