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Fox to Seek Order Delaying Watchmen Release

Source: The Associated Press

An attorney for 20th Century Fox says the studio will continue to seek an order delaying the release of Watchmen, according to The Associated Press.

U.S. District Court Judge Gary Feess last week agreed with Fox that Warner Bros. had infringed its copyright by developing and shooting the film, scheduled for release March 6.

Feess said Monday he plans to hold a trial Jan. 20 to decide remaining issues.

Fox claims it never fully relinquished story rights from its deal made in the late 1980s, and sued Warner Bros. in February. Warner Bros. contended Fox isn't entitled to distribution.

Warner Bros.' attorney said Monday he didn't know if an appeal was coming, but thinks a trial is necessary and a settlement unlikely.
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51577

Fuck You, Fox!!!!
 
Well you have to blame the writer too who obviously screwed over WB and WB for not going through the proper channels. Although, really I think this also lays at the feet of Fox for obviously trying to do a tablecloth off the table type trick with this film for profits.
 
Fucking hell. These foo's got to me. I'm angry now.
 
Just finished with the graphic novel. It was really good. I'm kinda happy to keep it as a positive experience in my mind without letting the movie mess it up. At the same time though, I have a morbid curiosity about how they changed the ending for the film.
 
AVclub said:
Just finished with the graphic novel. It was really good. I'm kinda happy to keep it as a positive experience in my mind without letting the movie mess it up. At the same time though, I have a morbid curiosity about how they changed the ending for the film.
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Read it again. It's just so much better and easier to follow if you know all the characters and their motivation. There's so much you don't notice the first time around.
 
I don't like the makeup / look of Ozy. Even if you haven't read the novel
you can tell he's a bad guy just by the way he looks. In the graphic novel you don't know it's him until sometime later in the comic.
.
 
Manics said:
I don't like the makeup / look of Ozy. Even if you haven't read the novel
you can tell he's a bad guy just by the way he looks. In the graphic novel you don't know it's him until sometime later in the comic.
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Hmm, I don't necessarily agree with you on this.
To me he doesn't look like a villain at all. If he looks like a villain, then what does the comedian look like to you. Which leads me to another question. Is Ozymandias really a villain, or did he just make a weird choice in order to save the world?
 
Manics said:
I don't like the makeup / look of Ozy. Even if you haven't read the novel
you can tell he's a bad guy just by the way he looks. In the graphic novel you don't know it's him until sometime later in the comic.
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Eh, I don't know about that. Personally, I could tell right away that
Ozy was a "bad guy" just from the fact that he had such a small role while everything else was going on.
 
Exactly, I wasn't surprised
Ozy was behind it the first time I read it.
What surpised me was what he actually did, and the whole
35-MINUTES AGO!
thing.
 
Linkzg said:
taken down again
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It was just a camcorder version of the clip Tr4nce posted, except this one has TWICE as much footage as the one running in the theaters. NICE! The segment where Snyder goes into detail on each character is new. I think it's pretty well done, especially for newcomers. Thanks for the download, Tr4nce.

Truant said:
Do you have cancer or something?
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Haven't had a check-up in a while...
 
It is encouraging to see scenes and dialogue that have been lifted straight from the comics, and I think I'm starting to believe that the movie might come good. One of my worries was the casting of sexy 20-somethings as the Watchmen but they've done a pretty decent job with the fat suits and prosthetics to make them look old. Dan Dreiberg looks just as sad and pathetic as his comic counterpart :D

My only worry at the moment revolves around (Big spoiler, don't highlight out of curiousity unless you've read every potential spoiler about the movie)
the scene in the trailers which show a blue explosion in NYC, I accidentally read a whie ago that the ending had been changed so that Manhattan causes the explosion in NYC, not the mutant psychic monster Ozzy creates.... I really hope that isn't the case as I think that would leave a very bitter taste in my mouth, messing with the ending and all
 
sionyboy said:
It is encouraging to see scenes and dialogue that have been lifted straight from the comics, and I think I'm starting to believe that the movie might come good. One of my worries was the casting of sexy 20-somethings as the Watchmen but they've done a pretty decent job with the fat suits and prosthetics to make them look old. Dan Dreiberg looks just as sad and pathetic as his comic counterpart :D

My only worry at the moment revolves around (Big spoiler, don't highlight out of curiousity unless you've read every potential spoiler about the movie)
the scene in the trailers which show a blue explosion in NYC, I accidentally read a whie ago that the ending had been changed so that Manhattan causes the explosion in NYC, not the mutant psychic monster Ozzy creates.... I really hope that isn't the case as I think that would leave a very bitter taste in my mouth, messing with the ending and all
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I might be wrong but I thought Veidt just makes it look like Manhattan's responsible for the blast.
 
sionyboy said:
It is encouraging to see scenes and dialogue that have been lifted straight from the comics, and I think I'm starting to believe that the movie might come good. One of my worries was the casting of sexy 20-somethings as the Watchmen but they've done a pretty decent job with the fat suits and prosthetics to make them look old. Dan Dreiberg looks just as sad and pathetic as his comic counterpart :D

My only worry at the moment revolves around (Big spoiler, don't highlight out of curiousity unless you've read every potential spoiler about the movie)
the scene in the trailers which show a blue explosion in NYC, I accidentally read a whie ago that the ending had been changed so that Manhattan causes the explosion in NYC, not the mutant psychic monster Ozzy creates.... I really hope that isn't the case as I think that would leave a very bitter taste in my mouth, messing with the ending and all
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You'll never have the comic book ending because it's just far too fantastical and strange.
 
Napoleonthechimp said:
You'll never have the comic book ending because it's just far too fantastical and strange.
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It's small minded thinking like that which keeps Hollywood sticking to their mindless hero's journey formula.
 
Napoleonthechimp said:
You'll never have the comic book ending because it's just far too fantastical and strange.
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People can keep saying this but it won't even start being true.

Stranger than I guy wearing a mask of moving inkblots? A guy dressed as an owl? A naked blue guy?

They punked out. End of story. A solid minute of silent footage of the original ending would have been tremendously epic, chilling, and memorable. Just look at the sequence in the book. Stunning stuff.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
People can keep saying this but it won't even start being true.

Stranger than I guy wearing a mask of moving inkblots? A guy dressed as an owl? A naked blue guy?

They punked out. End of story. A solid minute of silent footage of the original ending would have been tremendously epic, chilling, and memorable. Just look at the sequence in the book. Stunning stuff.
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I think it works better because they can make it simpler. In the comic, they had the whole side story of the island going, and you knew who the writer was because the kid was reading his comic book the whole time. They don't have the time to set that stuff up in the movie (from what I have read, WB said no to a movie with a 3:20 minute run time to put that stuff in there). Without setting up the island with all of the artists on it the squid would come completely and totally out of nowhere, making it seem real weird.

Remember, the comic hinted very heavily at the squid (well, not the squid itself but some sort of crazy monster being created on the island)
 
StoOgE said:
I think it works better because they can make it simpler. In the comic, they had the whole side story of the island going, and you knew who the writer was because the kid was reading his comic book the whole time. They don't have the time to set that stuff up in the movie (from what I have read, WB said no to a movie with a 3:20 minute run time to put that stuff in there). Without setting up the island with all of the artists on it the squid would come completely and totally out of nowhere, making it seem real weird.

Remember, the comic hinted very heavily at the squid (well, not the squid itself but some sort of crazy monster being created on the island)
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In other words, "They Punked Out".

;D
 
Dever said:
I might be wrong but I thought Veidt just makes it look like Manhattan's responsible for the blast.
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Which would be retarded since it doesn't fit in with why it was done, but whatever!
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
In other words, "They Punked Out".

;D
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I'm not a giant fan of the change, but I don't think it is going to ruin the movie by any stretch of the imagination. I think it fits with the spirit of it and makes some sense.

in the comic book, he ran Dr Manhattan off of Earth in order to keep him from interfering with the plan.. now he makes Manhattan freak out to 1) get him off the planet 2) Make him seem unstable 3) Divorce him from the American Government before the "attack".

I really think it could work depending on how they set it up. I know that the Squid was used because it was not from Earth.. but in a way Manhattan wasn't human either, so it could work in a similar way.

Compared to the earlier rumors of the other heroes killing Veidt to "get even" that was floating out there, I can live with this
 
xS1TH L0RDx said:
i just picked up the watchmen graphic novel today, and i'm on chapter IV. I can't put it down. it's fucking awesome.
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I just got the Absolute version from Amazon a couple days ago and I'm about to get into it myself.
 
Young Nobleman Of Sadness said:
Why can't I find this "Take a Bow" remix from the trailers anywhere?
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Remix? Seemed pretty much the same as the album version, just with chunks cut out.

By the way, I just noticed that Dr. Manhattan has lost his penis.
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Whereas Bart Simpson's penis is all good in the hood.
 
StoOgE said:
I'm not a giant fan of the change, but I don't think it is going to ruin the movie by any stretch of the imagination. I think it fits with the spirit of it and makes some sense.

Compared to the earlier rumors of the other heroes killing Veidt to "get even" that was floating out there, I can live with this
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Why would anyone want to "live with" anything? It sounds like the "spirit of it" is fucking terrible. Do you really want to like the movie or something? When it subverts the entire tone of the book so radically, why is its "spirit" something worth defending? Because it didn't subvert it as radically as previous attempts at a script?
 
It doesn't appear to subvert the tome of the book though, just some of the details.

It subverts the form of course, and for that reason it will never measure up, but the tone seems to be the one thing that the people involved are working hard to preserve, particularly compared to any adaptations of any of Moore's other work.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
It doesn't appear to subvert the tome of the book though, just some of the details.

It subverts the form of course, and for that reason it will never measure up, but the tone seems to be the one thing that the people involved are working hard to preserve, particularly compared to any adaptations of any of Moore's other work.
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When you're talking about "details" like the end of the book and Dan Dreiberg's relative physical condition, it's stuff that's pretty critical to the tone of the book.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
When you're talking about "details" like the end of the book and Dan Dreiberg's relative physical condition, it's stuff that's pretty critical to the tone of the book.
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Dan's 'physical condition' looks fine; in the trailers, he totally looks like a washed-up, pathetic dullard, which is exactly how he is in the comics.

Besides that, I don't understand why Watchmen has suddenly become such a sacred tome that it's not allowed to be altered to better fit the palette of movie-goers? Movies based on literature are altered from the source material all the time, and that's perfectly okay. The new ending seems to raise many of the same moral and philosophical questions that are present in the graphic novel while simultaneously side-stepping the potential problem of audiences being turned off by
a giant squid that teleports and kills everyone in a psychic explosion
.

Would I prefer the original ending, as a huge fan of the graphic novel who thinks that the ending is pretty much perfect? Of course. Do I think that a Watchmen movie can change the specific details of the ending and still keep the themes and raise the same questions as the graphic novel? Yes.
 
Hey, man. They're well within their rights to do whatever they want.

I just personally don't see the point in all of it, especially when it looks so unappealingly executed, to my tastes.

All subjectively speaking of course.
 
StoOgE said:
I'm not a giant fan of the change, but I don't think it is going to ruin the movie by any stretch of the imagination. I think it fits with the spirit of it and makes some sense.

in the comic book, he ran Dr Manhattan off of Earth in order to keep him from interfering with the plan.. now he makes Manhattan freak out to 1) get him off the planet 2) Make him seem unstable 3) Divorce him from the American Government before the "attack".

I really think it could work depending on how they set it up. I know that the Squid was used because it was not from Earth.. but in a way Manhattan wasn't human either, so it could work in a similar way.

Compared to the earlier rumors of the other heroes killing Veidt to "get even" that was floating out there, I can live with this
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but manhattan WAS human... he was from earth... he wasn't an alien

the squid was used because it was to be portrayed as an "alien invasion" to use against the government to make everyone work together or something...

if manhattan is said to have caused the explosion and assuming he leaves the universe in the end, then the whole idea of an alien invasion won't work... since manhattan leaves in the end

i'm just interested in seeing how they make it work...

Rorschach looks REALLY sweet, though... it's cool how the stuff moves around his face...

and ozy looks... weird?... i was hoping they'd keep him super buff and a more chiseled face... he just looks puny and his hair is lame... pretty disappointed with that... but i guess he IS the smartest man in the world... not the sexiest :(
 
the squid was used because it was to be portrayed as an "alien invasion" to use against the government to make everyone work together or something...

if manhattan is said to have caused the explosion and assuming he leaves the universe in the end, then the whole idea of an alien invasion won't work... since manhattan leaves in the end
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Not only that but
the whole point was to make something so fantastical a tangible reality, to draw support from the world. There is absolutely nothing that anyone on earth can do to stop Manhattan if it came down to it. So why would anyone unite in fighting him? You can't fight him.
It's a stupid idea.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
When you're talking about "details" like the end of the book and Dan Dreiberg's relative physical condition, it's stuff that's pretty critical to the tone of the book.
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Dan's waistline is not critical at all. It's a visual cue to an aspect of the character, and could be given by his voice and acting as well. The ending? I don't have all the details of the new ending (trying to avoid them) but I don't see how you could *not* have the same grim tone given the amount of destruction. There's a couple of key differences, but neither one is related to tone.
 
Yeah, the novel is awesome. I have read it two times now, and it's so awesome. I advice first time readers to really pay attention to all the panels. Don't rush the reading, instead examine everything carefully, because there's so many clues and easter eggs all around. Also, the first time I didn't really like the Tales of the Black Freighter, but on my second time reading through Watchmen I thought it was awesome. It holds many parallels to the Watchmen main plot. So awesome.
 
afternoon delight said:
Not only that but
the whole point was to make something so fantastical a tangible reality, to draw support from the world. There is absolutely nothing that anyone on earth can do to stop Manhattan if it came down to it. So why would anyone unite in fighting him? You can't fight him.
It's a stupid idea.
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also true...

we'll just have to wait and see i guess...

i don't think they'll butcher the book and the ideas behind it by any means, since they've kept almost everything else so close to what it actually was... what it looked like and the dialogue...

so we'll see... i'm pretty optimistic that they'll do the right thing :D
 
Did anyone catch the screencap that supposedly showed a
tentacle
or something in NYC? It was hidden in one of the trailers/featurettes. It disappeared right after I saw it on IMDB.

Strange.
 
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