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What are your most/least appealing Switch features? (Xbox Live Rewards Survey)
- Thread starter Toadthemushroom
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AcademicSaucer
Member
A portable that can play 360 and Xbone games would be the dream.
The Horror the horror
Banned
XBox Flip w/ Benicio Del Toro as its celebrity figure.
Scorpio is not competing with Switch. It's probably a $500 box with it's current specs.
No it doesn't. They've had surveys on 3DS, Android phones, iphones and even on the Uoya.
edit: Apparently the Uoya wasn't an xbox survey.
FutureLarking
Member
Zune HD had good full 3D versions of PGR and Audiosurf. I'll take it.
I wouldnt be surprised if they did a smaller Surface type device. Not only for XBO games but PC games too.
Blam
Member
Yeah running Xbox One games at 720p like the switch does shouldn't be that hard?
Fair! That does sound like an awful trend. That feature just seems like an odd one out for a video games console when placed beside stuff like portability and games library.
But it's probably not something that should be understated. The Vita got a lot of hate for the (really dumb) decision to use proprietary memory cards, and the original Xbox's hard drive was actually sort of a cool feature/selling point.
forknknife
Banned
Nintendo was on point when they decided not to show the switch at last year's E3 so they wouldn't copy their concept. I bet we'll have Sony and MS switches announced in less than a year.
Skittzo0413
Member
That's not how games on consoles work though. They would all have to be completely redone to work with the new spec. Games don't automatically scale, the developers would need to do a lot of work on every single game on the platform if they want them all to be playable on the new device.
I don't think they could make one with XB1 specs though (at least in 2017-2018) and if it has different specs you'd run into the above problem.
Not to mention you aren't going to find a decent mobile chipset with the same architecture as the XB1.
Blam
Member
I know it's not, but I'd assume it would be easier to optimize for if it was all in 720p or 600p?
I'm just mentioning that it might be possible to do at 720p.
Toadthemushroom
Member
I'm surprised one of the points listed for things you least like about the Switch wasn't "apps".
That'd be a no-brainer for Microsoft to do, given UWP programs have a responsive design that scales between Windows Phones and large PC monitors.
That'd be a no-brainer for Microsoft to do, given UWP programs have a responsive design that scales between Windows Phones and large PC monitors.
HighResTomato
Member
Are you seriously asking wether MS is allowed to ask questions?
kunonabi
Member
Yeah, same here.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Yep. As much as I like to complain about Nintendo (despite spending lots of money on their wares), they certainly shake things up in this industry time after time.
Take a bow, Nintendo. Take a bow.
The Hermit
Member
If the Switch keeps it's momentum, I think it's fair to say both Sony and Microsoft will jump on that boat, just like they tried with the Wii.
A lot of GAF (including "XboxGAF") are multi-console/system owners....
..so...YES
Edit**
Mobile CPUs/GPUs are nearing a point they could run OG Xbox One games. They could probably release an "affordable" 720p handheld that could run Xbox family games.
Hit holiday 2018 with hardware based on AMD's new CPU/GPUs.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
They can integrate a Switch style technology in the next generation of Surface tablets.
CharminUltra
Member
I'd love to see MS try their hand at a Switch-like handheld.
Feeroper
Member
This is my feeling too - the Switch has been such a game changer for me, and when I go back to my other consoles it is difficult to not have that option or going portable if needed. The streaming play of the Vita just doesn't cut it for me as it is such an uneven experience.
I don't think a MS branded, Switch style, handheld would be a good idea to be honest. For one, it would need to be a fair whack more powerful than Switch to run Xbox One games and these games would also need to be ported to the system by hand. That takes time and effort and many devs likely wouldn't be bothered.
With that amount of power, battery life would be shocking, even worse than the Switch and people bitched about that non stop. It would run hot, loud and be pretty big to fit the sort of graphics tech in there that would allow Xbox games to run easily on it.
Next, Nintendo is making the Switch work because they a) partnered up with the tech company with a considerable amount of experience in mobile graphics design and b) are devoting all of their resources to it. They have unified all development teams, this will be their platform going forward. If MS released an Xbox branded handheld type console it likely wouldn't have exclusives which were designed specifically for it and it would force devs to split their time across two different platforms. In short, we would end up with exactly the same situation as the Vita - great hardware (at the time) but not nearly enough developer support meaning it eventually faded into obscurity amongst anyone who didn't adore indie games / Japanese games.
It will end up with MS pouring silly amounts of money into it for little real return on investment I reckon. They would be splitting their money and development resources between Xb1 S, Scorpio, a future Xbox Two (or whatever) and a handheld. This just doesn't seem even remotely like a good idea. Nintendo are in a very different position as they can just throw everything at the Switch.
With that amount of power, battery life would be shocking, even worse than the Switch and people bitched about that non stop. It would run hot, loud and be pretty big to fit the sort of graphics tech in there that would allow Xbox games to run easily on it.
Next, Nintendo is making the Switch work because they a) partnered up with the tech company with a considerable amount of experience in mobile graphics design and b) are devoting all of their resources to it. They have unified all development teams, this will be their platform going forward. If MS released an Xbox branded handheld type console it likely wouldn't have exclusives which were designed specifically for it and it would force devs to split their time across two different platforms. In short, we would end up with exactly the same situation as the Vita - great hardware (at the time) but not nearly enough developer support meaning it eventually faded into obscurity amongst anyone who didn't adore indie games / Japanese games.
It will end up with MS pouring silly amounts of money into it for little real return on investment I reckon. They would be splitting their money and development resources between Xb1 S, Scorpio, a future Xbox Two (or whatever) and a handheld. This just doesn't seem even remotely like a good idea. Nintendo are in a very different position as they can just throw everything at the Switch.
What if Ryzen Mobile clocks in around 1.5TF+-?
It's possible we could see AMD's new mobile chips being capable of X1 level performance (at lower resolutions). They'd likely be 4 core / 8 thread CPUs, and you'd need enough RAM to run everything too of course.
Not sure how that would pan out cost wise.
LordRaptor
Member
X1s CPU is the least of the problems that would need to be solved to shrink it down to a tablet form factor
boiled goose
good with gravy
Surprised they didn't list online infrastructure as a possible negative.
Okami Haundo
Member
I found this question really interesting! It still won't let me send my survey results, but I put portability and game selection as my top two.
The survey also asks how "influential" I feel having certain companies at E3 is. I found that really interesting considering Microsoft's small booth space this year compared to Sony/Nintendo. When Microsoft as PC company has been announcing products at their own dedicated events, it makes me wonder if Xbox might move there.
The survey also asks how "influential" I feel having certain companies at E3 is. I found that really interesting considering Microsoft's small booth space this year compared to Sony/Nintendo. When Microsoft as PC company has been announcing products at their own dedicated events, it makes me wonder if Xbox might move there.
Zune HAD was ahead of it's time. Amazing player that still has a cult following.
Anyway....
We're talking Mobile APU, not just a CPU.
Scorpio already addressed the change in memory..so they've already tested that route. Lets list things out then
.Also, the survey results went through for me now after trying and getting errors earlier.
Uh, Xbox One's "APU" is running QB though.....so a new equivalent APU on low power draw could potentially do the same. That's how tech advancement works...it just may not be there yet of course.
LordRaptor
Member
We're talking Mobile APU, not just a CPU.
Scorpio already addressed the change in memory..so they've already tested that route. Lets list things out then
Also, the survey results went through for me now after trying and getting errors earlier.
APU is a marketing term, and it is functionally no different to Intel HD integrated graphics. Its not running Quantum Break in other words.
forknknife
Banned
Probably because that's a given thing they can easily do better than Nintendo, no need to ask
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
With Microsoft's focus on backwards compatibility going forward, and Xbox-compatible handheld device would be awesome. All those 360 games on the go?
I doubt it would happen though, at least in the foreseeable future.
This is already a problem solved by Nvidia on the GPU side.
The problem is that such a portable would be too expensive in price and battery consumption.
MS with today's understanding of tech could remake Scorpio as a BGA or MXM module and down clock it for acceptable performance on a handheld 1080p screen. But it will cost more than the Scorpio and even with every trick they could leverage to improve battery life it won't last as long as a Switch even with the same multiplat game.
zenspider
Member
I feel like the tech issues were discussed in the "Switch: X1 Tegra confirmed" thread. Essentially, it would be impossible at that size and anywhere near that price.
Brands include questions about their rivals all the time.
Im pretty sure i have been asked in nintendo surveys if i had xbox or play station consoles.
