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What do you think are the biggest mistakes that have happened in gaming?
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Moriarty1889
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Add to that Xbox going all in on day one AAA exclusives on PC and Gamepass. Also them telling people they don’t need to play on an Xbox console thus killing their own console sales. All thanks to that moron Phil Spinster. He has run the brand into the ground and the results speak for themselves. Sad what he has reduced Xbox to and he is still at the helm which is pure madness imo.
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Itchy Tickles
Neo Member
The Internet / digital sales. It made devs so lazy and sloppy they release broken unfinished shit and just say "a patch will come" IF we are lucky. No dignity or dedication in releasing a finished product and still crying about costs while putting in less effort and at the same time releasing bullshit dlc.
Gaming companies exploiting every customer with gambling mechanics, paid dlc for stuff that was in games previously - from unlockable costumes, fighters, guns, game modes, even cheats. They also say "it's ONLY cosmetics" while these "doesn't effect gameplay" items make these cunts millions, hundreds of millions, and BILLIONS. And yes, gamers who buy this crap are to blame too, just not as much as these poor CEOs who are nearly homeless while having to "survive" with the millions they get on bonuses alone.
Achievements from Xbox. The amount of issues these have caused is scary. I remember before GTA4 they said cheats you use would not only prevent Achievements unlocking but also lock you out of SAVING your game. Games then all used that excuse so they could sell cheats instead. Microsoft was happy with that. Look at shit now, games like Resident Evil selling "time savers" or Mortal Kombat selling "easy fatalities" to name just 2, these are cheat codes that are being sold for real money.
Obviously so much more.
Gaming companies exploiting every customer with gambling mechanics, paid dlc for stuff that was in games previously - from unlockable costumes, fighters, guns, game modes, even cheats. They also say "it's ONLY cosmetics" while these "doesn't effect gameplay" items make these cunts millions, hundreds of millions, and BILLIONS. And yes, gamers who buy this crap are to blame too, just not as much as these poor CEOs who are nearly homeless while having to "survive" with the millions they get on bonuses alone.
Achievements from Xbox. The amount of issues these have caused is scary. I remember before GTA4 they said cheats you use would not only prevent Achievements unlocking but also lock you out of SAVING your game. Games then all used that excuse so they could sell cheats instead. Microsoft was happy with that. Look at shit now, games like Resident Evil selling "time savers" or Mortal Kombat selling "easy fatalities" to name just 2, these are cheat codes that are being sold for real money.
Obviously so much more.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I think the problem here is that we're talking about different games. I am referring to games like Nethack, ADOM, DCSS, ToME, Caves of Qud, et al.
Shut0wen
Member
Nah i meant more hardcore gamers went towards 360 due to the price of ps3 while everyones mum and nan had a wii
Shut0wen
Member
How not? Theres tons of great wii games, best console for jrpgs and platformers for its time, had cool colour palette games while everything on ps3 and 360 just went with the cod filter
kingpotato
Ask me about my Stream Deck
Gamers paying for Xbox Live which has become all systems effectively having a subscription service to use them.
uDraw for the Wii killed THQ.
WiiU was the wrong follow-up to the Wii, terrible branding on top of a lackluster product.
uDraw for the Wii killed THQ.
WiiU was the wrong follow-up to the Wii, terrible branding on top of a lackluster product.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
video games going mainstream
also nintendo still failing to find a miyamoto successor.
also nintendo still failing to find a miyamoto successor.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Kojima and Nomura unbridled.
Chasing cinema at all costs, creating an unfillable gap between AAA and everything else, and equating quality with production values in the eyes of too many gamers.
Dropping almost everything related to motion controls after the 7th gen. It’s absolutely baffling how people would rather have rear paddles on controllers than gyro aiming and IR pointers.
Chasing cinema at all costs, creating an unfillable gap between AAA and everything else, and equating quality with production values in the eyes of too many gamers.
Dropping almost everything related to motion controls after the 7th gen. It’s absolutely baffling how people would rather have rear paddles on controllers than gyro aiming and IR pointers.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's funny that you mention that Halo Infinite needed another year. Infinite actually needed to be a launch title for XSX and needed to be a great game. If that had happened, this gen may have been drastically different.
However, Xbox studios had been so poorly mismanaged even if Halo Infinite had been delayed another year, it wouldn't have changed much. You can't simply just throw money at things and fix them without talented people to get them in order. Xbox proved that having money is meaningless without the talent to manage it. Nadella and Stuart have seen the kind of revenue that ABK is bringing in and are not about to let Spencer ruin it by putting everything on Gamepass and taking it off Playstation where it's likely generating the bulk of it's revenue.
laynelane
Member
The gradual decrease of passion and creativity and the increase in corporate interests/stock holder interests and excessive focus on making as much money as possible. Gaming has become a big industry so it was always going to gain the interest of various corporations and big financial groups. Consequently, we've seen a rapid increase in various things that add nothing but ways to make an easy buck off of players (which is where a lot of the things already mentioned come from). As well, products designed from the ground up to generate money over the long term have become more and more frequent.
I'm thankful we still have games that are made with passion and creativity (eg. Elden Ring, BG3, etc.), but there's so many franchises and games that have been muddied by unchecked greed and lack of care.
I'm thankful we still have games that are made with passion and creativity (eg. Elden Ring, BG3, etc.), but there's so many franchises and games that have been muddied by unchecked greed and lack of care.
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cartman414
Member
People still not getting that Sony tried to screw Nintendo first. They would have become a competitor either way.
The Weird History Of The Super NES CD-ROM, Nintendo's Most Notorious Vaporware
Nintendo never released a CD-ROM gaming system. But for a while in the early 1990s, it flirted with the idea. That protracted will-they-won’t-they romance produced pages of breathless gossip columns in video game magazines, a mountain of vaporware, some terrible Zelda games, and one priceless...
kotaku.com
This guy gets it.
Though Yamauchi didn't react in the best way. No matter, the Switch may soon top the PS2.
You are totally right.
It's the "designed around it" part that is the issue for me, because I hate it.
Just like I completely avoided games that were 100% Stylus on the Nintendo DS (Even though it was very cool, I absolutely hated having to use it).
I appreciate Nintendo's ability and confidence in taking risks and experimenting with out of the box ideas.
But my brain loves this, and hates anything that isn't this
I like "Boring but Practical" design, when it comes to controlling a game.
PS/DualShock controllers were too small until the DS4. And that d-pad is 2d kryptonite.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
People still not getting that Sony tried to screw Nintendo first. They would have become a competitor either way.
The Weird History Of The Super NES CD-ROM, Nintendo's Most Notorious Vaporware
Nintendo never released a CD-ROM gaming system. But for a while in the early 1990s, it flirted with the idea. That protracted will-they-won’t-they romance produced pages of breathless gossip columns in video game magazines, a mountain of vaporware, some terrible Zelda games, and one priceless...
This guy gets it.
Though Yamauchi didn't react in the best way. No matter, the Switch may soon top the PS2.
Sony is lucky Yamauchi didn't put a Yakuza hit out on them over that contract fuckery.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Ps3's Cell processor.
An entire generation of Playstation games can't be played on modern hardware without either buying it again as a remaster, or streaming it (which is garbage.)
An entire generation of Playstation games can't be played on modern hardware without either buying it again as a remaster, or streaming it (which is garbage.)
Deerock71
Member
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
DRM. I'm sorry but I'm including everybody's favorite Steam on here as well. But it seems people really don't like to support DRM free so we're always going to have it now unfortunately.
One of my top choices would be day one patches which are practically required nowadays.
Of course also appealing to "modern audiences" aka 'woke' garbage.
Micro transactions and DLC. I wouldn't have an issue with the latter if it were more like an expansion on a separate disc or something or DRM free digitally.
Canceling the sequel to the 2006 Prey game.
One of my top choices would be day one patches which are practically required nowadays.
Of course also appealing to "modern audiences" aka 'woke' garbage.
Micro transactions and DLC. I wouldn't have an issue with the latter if it were more like an expansion on a separate disc or something or DRM free digitally.
Canceling the sequel to the 2006 Prey game.
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Hypereides
Member
I got a bunch, but I'll highlight the biggest one in my book:
Western, or most, AAA going from being lead by actual creative and imaginative minds to becoming spearheaded, hijacked and financed by silent suits, managers and investment bankers pulling strings from the background.
The "Bobby Kotick syndrome", if you will. All the big CEOs back in the 7th gen took notice of how Activision made CoD big and copied his playbook. The result is a continuous cycle of aggressive focus on monetization, much less on visionary and groundbreaking game ideas. Modern day western AAA have become the equivalent of uninspiring junkfood.
Western, or most, AAA going from being lead by actual creative and imaginative minds to becoming spearheaded, hijacked and financed by silent suits, managers and investment bankers pulling strings from the background.
The "Bobby Kotick syndrome", if you will. All the big CEOs back in the 7th gen took notice of how Activision made CoD big and copied his playbook. The result is a continuous cycle of aggressive focus on monetization, much less on visionary and groundbreaking game ideas. Modern day western AAA have become the equivalent of uninspiring junkfood.
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newtypepilot
Member
sega's 32x and cd attachments
virtual boy
xbone and kinect
xbox players dumb enough to pay for online multiplayer, setting a terrible standard for everyone else.
stadia
western companies going on a price war and spamming shovelware games which led to the crash in the 80s.
atari
virtual boy
xbone and kinect
xbox players dumb enough to pay for online multiplayer, setting a terrible standard for everyone else.
stadia
western companies going on a price war and spamming shovelware games which led to the crash in the 80s.
atari
butane bob
Member
Publishers trying to turn video games into interactive tv shows - throwing interactivity under a bus in favour of """story""". This destroyed the entire point of the medium, stifled innovation/creativity, blew the dev budgets sky high and the end result is slop that's nowhere near as good as the film/tv mediums they're attempting to compete with.
Runner up - Microsoft. Everything they have spearheaded in this industry has been pure cancer.
NeverYouMind
Member
You are making me consider how good I had it with the ColecoVision paddle. It was built to last.I see your pad, and raise you. The CD32 pad!
It was horrific. After a short while the D pad disc would snap which meant it would spin on it's own axis, you'd spend 10% of your time playing and 90% trying to re spin it back to position
Pure bunk
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Majormaxxx
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Neil D
Anita S
Blue hair writers
Anita S
Blue hair writers
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Killjoy-NL
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MasterDerico
Member
Day 1 patch, unfinished games on release, political agenda in games, microtransactions, dlc abuse, online only games.
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