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What do you think the first Rotten MCU movie will be?
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Jeffolation
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Surprised to find out The Incredible Hulk got a positive tomatoes score. The only truly bad film from the MCU.
SpideySenses
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The worst comic book movies normally have two things going for them, more often than not they're unique as they'll never warrant a sequel and because of the ridiculous nature of what superheroes technically are, they can often fall into the "so bad they're good" comedy factor category. On paper Thor 2 shouldn't be in the same league as them but because it's the third best movie Thor and Loki had been at the time and because it's boring but not funny bad, it should be considered with the very worst CBM movies for my tastes.
If you were to put a gun to my head and said I could watch either Thor 2 or Ghost Rider, whilst Thor is technically the better movie I'd pick the latter every time, at least I can watch Nicholas Cage ham it up for 90 minutes. Then I'd watch Avengers when I'm finished.
If you were to put a gun to my head and said I could watch either Thor 2 or Ghost Rider, whilst Thor is technically the better movie I'd pick the latter every time, at least I can watch Nicholas Cage ham it up for 90 minutes. Then I'd watch Avengers when I'm finished.
Seriously. Catwoman, Elektra, Jonah Hex, Steel, Green Lantern, Ghost Rider... Thor 2 isn't anywhere near the worst comic book movie.
You remember that time slayven thought his comic nerd shit represented the whole net and was wrong.
That time called often, like deadpool, and cival war and a bunch of other shit.
The year that movie comes out all you gonna see is little Elza's and Cap Mar's for holoween.
It's likely to be one of the sequels. I think that Thor 2 would have dipped under 60% on RT if it was released today. We get so many comic book films now that movies with nothing to bring to the table are starting to take more dings than they did 5-10 years ago. X-Men The Last Stand was just borderline rotten back in 2006. Spider-man 3 was borderline positive in 2007.
All of the first films at least have novelty working on their side.
All of the first films at least have novelty working on their side.
Red Arremer
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Big Baybee
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I don't think any of the MCU movies are bad, but there are a handful of meh/forgettable ones. Mostly early on. Age of Ultron was ok. I kind of like all the Iron Man movies. Both Thor movies and the Incredible Hulk were just meh.
When I think of bad comic book movies I think of every Fantastic 4. Catwoman. Man of Steel and BvS. ASM2. SM3. X-Men: The Last Stand. Those bad movies.
This guy gets it.
When I think of bad comic book movies I think of every Fantastic 4. Catwoman. Man of Steel and BvS. ASM2. SM3. X-Men: The Last Stand. Those bad movies.
This guy gets it.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I'm going to say either Thor 3 or Ant-Man & The Wasp. Leaning more towards the latter because Thor 2 was such a snoozefest that if it can at least keep people awake for the entire movie, it might end up scoring better than Dark World.
Ant-Man & The Wasp. That's my final answer.
Ant-Man & The Wasp. That's my final answer.
I picked Thor: Dark World in the poll.
catashtrophe
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I rarely look at Rotten Tomatoes so after a bit of quick browsing i just realised that one of my fav comic book films..
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1083484-blade/
Only got 54%
A lower ranking than all the MCU movies damn.
MCU hype is too powerful nothing will ever get a rotten score if Thor 2 and Iron man 2 couldn't
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1083484-blade/
Only got 54%
A lower ranking than all the MCU movies damn.
MCU hype is too powerful nothing will ever get a rotten score if Thor 2 and Iron man 2 couldn't
Primethius
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If Thor 3 ends up being a significant improvement over the past two films and is actually good, I doubt we'll be getting a rotten MCU film anytime soon.
Otherwise, Thor 3 is my answer.
Otherwise, Thor 3 is my answer.
Yes, it's the better movie.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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for me that movie was a facepalm parade
not if that means more movies like Thor 2
Wait, what? Why would the 1st Avengers movie be rotten???
ratcliffja
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I could see Guardians 2 being rotten if Gunn gets too far up his own butt like he's been in discussing the first movie sure release such as when he compared it to Deadpool. Hopefully he can recapture the magic of the first movie. Otherwise, my money is on Ant Man and Wasp. Thor 3 has potential to be the best of its trilogy based on the announced content and cast.
QuantumZebra
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metalslimer
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There was nothing good in Thor 2
I don't understand how Thor 2 is the worst comic book movie where there are many worse than it, and I would know as I watch a lot of comic book movies!!!
ViewtifulJC
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peanutbutterlatte
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Unless you mean the user review that you give it on Metacritic, think you're shit out of luck here boyo.
So we're doing this now?
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If anything Avengers 3 is going to be an improvement due to being Whedon free
Count Dookkake
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Marvel Zombies.
Red Arremer
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Agreed with this. Read the rumoured content and it sounds about right given the cast. That should make Thor 3 easily the best Thor movie, and if it also pans out well, one of the best MCU films.
Megalosaro
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Honestly, most Marvel movies I feel are 6/10 movies, except Winter Soldier, which is a 9/10 movie and Civil War, which is a 7/10 movie.
The first avengers was decent too.
The first avengers was decent too.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
Iron Man 8 with an aging Channing Tatum as Old Man Tony will be pretty cringeworthy.
Before that I doubt we'll see a truly rotten movie. The weakest so far (Captain America: The First Avenger) is actually entertaining for most of the runtime.
Before that I doubt we'll see a truly rotten movie. The weakest so far (Captain America: The First Avenger) is actually entertaining for most of the runtime.
BadAss2961
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It's not the CGI as much as it's the way things are shot sometimes. Usually in cooldown moments, dialogue scenes. Avengers was one of the worst offenders... Even some of the action scenes just look lazy. Winter Soldier for example is shot like a straight to video action movie with some expensive CGI to make up for it. Some awful backdrops too, just bland as hell. Even the scores are mostly forgettable.
Easiest way to make perspective is to look at the detail put into Batman v Superman and look at what's being done at Marvel. Hell, Game of Thrones shits on Marvel.
evilromero
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So far the Avenger movies are the weakest to me. But I don't anticipate any of the upcoming movies to end up with an aggregate rotten consensus.
If the pile of hot garbage Iron Man 2 and Hulk and Thor movies couldn't get to rotten, nothing will.
The cinematography is very TV like for a lot of those movies.
The cinematography is very TV like for a lot of those movies.
Inferno313
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Rottentomatoes is just a percentage of what critics gave the film a positive review, vs a negative review. Scores aren't factored in, outside of the "average score" which is a seperate rating.
A film with 90% of critics giving it a 3/5 is a 90% film. A film with 80% of critics giving it a 5/5 and 20% giving it a 2/5 is an 80% film.
The reason MCU films rank so high is because they're really easy films to 'like.' They've nailed the formula for making 4-quadrant pictures that provide an enjoyable time for just about everyone in the theatre, even if not all of them are going to stick around as lasting memories.
Inferno313
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I'd say that only stands for the first Avengers and Ant-Man. The rest don't have that issue.
ReplacementPelican
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The song choice was really inconsequential, it was an okay gag but I've never heard anyone laugh at it. I'm sure he will do a good job but I guess part of me feels as though the more unique ideas like the Microverse, Eternity, the idea of using the train track was mostly Wright as it feels very his flavour. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't one of the people running around claiming the movie was doomed, although I was disappointed. I'm sure Reed can direct the movie well but few comedy directors have the same ability, uniqueness and eye for things as Wright.
They really are. Some people here discuss the movie as though it were personally offensive or a God awful mess. I don't particularly like the movie but it doesn't mean I don't find the hyperbole any less eye-rolling and though I realise it's become somewhat memetic on Gaf now I'd say it's easily better than a lot of superhero movies I have seen, it's just not a good movie.
Unless there's a MCU movie worse than all of those.
That would mean no critics would like it, and that's virtually impossible for a MCU movie.
SolidChamp
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Is that so? I obviously "know nothing" because you say as much? So glad you're here to illuminate that for me.
The notion that the MCU can do no wrong is one of the major problems with the film industry today. Thor 2 is all shades of wrong, with Tom Hiddleston being the one saving grace.
And yet, according to Lanthi, you obviously know nothing.
No, Thor: The Dark World is objectively not the worst adaptation of a Marvel comic. Everyone has different taste, but movies like Elektra, all four Fantastic Four movies, Man-Thing, Dracula Sovereign of the Damned, Frankenstein, Captain America (not any of the MCU versions, there were others), Lungdren Punisher, and more exist.
Also ditto to every single post pointing out how people don't know how Rotten Tomatoes works. The rating is not indicative of quality, it's just a gauge of how many critics liked it at least enough to give a light recommendation. For what it's worth, there is an actual critic average on a ten point scale on Rotten Tomatoes. As The Dark World has a 6.2 (so still positive) you folks still won't like RT, though...
Also ditto to every single post pointing out how people don't know how Rotten Tomatoes works. The rating is not indicative of quality, it's just a gauge of how many critics liked it at least enough to give a light recommendation. For what it's worth, there is an actual critic average on a ten point scale on Rotten Tomatoes. As The Dark World has a 6.2 (so still positive) you folks still won't like RT, though...
Pretty much this is all true.
Probably none.
Marvel plays it pretty safe and by the numbers with decent plots, good acting and good visuals.
They have had 4 pretty bad movies by my count (Cap 1, Thor 1&2, IM2), but for the most part just hit for contact.
I actually more or less enjoyed Hulk and IM3, though they were problematic as well.
Marvel plays it pretty safe and by the numbers with decent plots, good acting and good visuals.
They have had 4 pretty bad movies by my count (Cap 1, Thor 1&2, IM2), but for the most part just hit for contact.
I actually more or less enjoyed Hulk and IM3, though they were problematic as well.
old manatee
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It's fascinating watching MCU party loyalists attempt to soften the legacy of Thor 2: Thor In The Dark World. It is my belief that they have been emboldened by the announcement of an even longer cut of Superman V Batman.
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BudokaiMR2
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The Darkhawk movie when they really start scraping the bottom circa 2028
Discotheque
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None of them will ever be. Theres a certain amount of consistency to the studio. though I think the Thor movies and age of ultron should have been rotten absolutely.
And iron man 2 and Norton Hulk
And iron man 2 and Norton Hulk
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