freethoughtbubble
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OP, look around, you have found your tribe 
Not me, though. Heavens, no.
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What Is Wrong With Me? A Zelda BotW Thread
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This was incredibly annoying at first too. Every korok seed I through towards weapon slots. Eventually you'll have so many incredible weapons you won't want to use them.
MetalliCabombination
Member
sometimes you just grow over stuff you loved as a kid. took me 6 pokemon games on 3ds to find out
ViolentP
Member
Only thing wrong with you is you're questioning how you feel. Not liking BotW requires no explanation.
Dunno why you included my reply in there. If they can't get into because is certain reason then the game might not do anything for them simple as that. I personally wouldn't continue to play a game I couldn't get into even if it's a series I really like, plus this has happen to me for one particular series. So yea.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Why would you go into the Official Thread and say you don't like the game? I think that's grounds for banning iirc.
Well yeah if you're just going to post "I don't like this game" and leave it at that sure. If someone writes in detail what they had problems with and what could have been improved I don't see how that would be a problem in the official thread. I personally enjoyed the game but was burnt out by the end and disappointed with the story and lack of dungeons.
Spotless Mind
Member
It's ok not to be enamored with the direction they took. It hasn't gelled for me at all either, once the initial wow-factor wore off (which it seems you haven't been experiencing). I much prefer previous 3d zeldas. I played Horizon beforehand as well and i found myself much more engaged by it, even if it falls into more traditional open world rpg trappings. The exciting, varied combat encounters due to the great enemy variety made it much more exciting for me to explore the world. I legit loved actively seeking out enemy encounters.
BoTW's combat is clunky and a chore in comparison and i have found myself actively avoiding it. That being said, i don't approach Zelda games for their amazing combat. I love them for their dungeons and puzzles, which is the main source of my disappointment with BoTW. Traversing vast landscape to discover such bite-sized, mostly simplistic puzzle rooms didn't bring me much sense of satisfaction. Then there's the actual dungeons which were massively disappointing.
The freedom with which you can explore the world is nice, i guess, but it comes at the expense of any real narrative momentum. There's a lack of urgency to everything. I understand how others would love the direction, however, and i give props to Nintendo for trying something new.
BoTW's combat is clunky and a chore in comparison and i have found myself actively avoiding it. That being said, i don't approach Zelda games for their amazing combat. I love them for their dungeons and puzzles, which is the main source of my disappointment with BoTW. Traversing vast landscape to discover such bite-sized, mostly simplistic puzzle rooms didn't bring me much sense of satisfaction. Then there's the actual dungeons which were massively disappointing.
The freedom with which you can explore the world is nice, i guess, but it comes at the expense of any real narrative momentum. There's a lack of urgency to everything. I understand how others would love the direction, however, and i give props to Nintendo for trying something new.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
what dont you understand? they removed a lot of the things that had become conventions, and now most of the game is just exploring a world where the majority of tasks are inconsequential
I play BOTW for like 15-30 minutes every few days, usually either randomly explore or do a shrine, then I feel it's enough and I put it down and play something else. I sort of still like the game, in a peculiar way, but at this rate I'm not sure I'll ever finish it (activity log says I've played 10 hours).
I do not hold this game in the same regard as my favorite Zelda games (Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time, and LttP). It's not nearly as good of a ZELDA GAME as any of those. But for a wilderness simulator it's quite good.
I do not hold this game in the same regard as my favorite Zelda games (Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time, and LttP). It's not nearly as good of a ZELDA GAME as any of those. But for a wilderness simulator it's quite good.
I get that, but I bolded the "souless Link" part.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
oh, hes just kind of staring vacantly in the most important cutscenes including the ending
people seem to justify it with "hes a soldier!" but thats not good enough for me. Big Boss was the ultimate soldier and he had a lot more emotion.
Like, ok its cool he reacts to hot/cold temperatures and such, but thats been around since 1998
Agreed. It was such fun to have all that happen after I thought I had exhausted the game's content.*
*Other than armor upgrades, which for some reason I'm doing exhaustively now. I should just start a new game.
Zelda has always been a silly franchise, even within narrative contexts that demand investment in high-stakes outcomes. To take it seriously like The Witcher is completely missing the point.
The control scheme is weird, and this is coming from someone who doesn't play enough of other series to get used to whatever the modern conventions are. But within a few hours I was doing all of the basic running, attack, and menu navigation actions accurately, but again I'm someone who doesn't play enough of other series to get used to modern conventions.
The control scheme is weird, and this is coming from someone who doesn't play enough of other series to get used to whatever the modern conventions are. But within a few hours I was doing all of the basic running, attack, and menu navigation actions accurately, but again I'm someone who doesn't play enough of other series to get used to modern conventions.
I don't think you understand. The game should have been 98. The fact that it is 97 now gives evil dissenters like you ammo.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231929694&postcount=4152
It's a huge concern.
Grumplestiltskin
Member
You are not alone. I bought a Switch to play Zelda and between the controls which for whatever reason I can never quite get down and the vastness of it my interest wanes very rapidly every time I pick up the controller to play. As it is I've put three times as much playtime into Mario Kart single player as I have into Zelda.
Ive played every single Zelda game and adored most of them (my favorite ones are the GBA Oracle games) and yet for whatever reason I just cannot get into this one at all. There are just so many things I find incredibly frustrating (unintuitive controls, extremely harsh durability, terrible voice acting, extremely slow/cumbersome climbing, incredibly small stock space for weapons/shields, frustrating inventory/UI) that I just find myself not wanting to play it. With the way people were talking about the game and the way it was being exalted it really feels like I'm missing something.
Ive played every single Zelda game and adored most of them (my favorite ones are the GBA Oracle games) and yet for whatever reason I just cannot get into this one at all. There are just so many things I find incredibly frustrating (unintuitive controls, extremely harsh durability, terrible voice acting, extremely slow/cumbersome climbing, incredibly small stock space for weapons/shields, frustrating inventory/UI) that I just find myself not wanting to play it. With the way people were talking about the game and the way it was being exalted it really feels like I'm missing something.
It's weird you're responding to someone mad about generalization with this.
OP You're at the point in the game where the game opens everything up. I mean, the world was open for you once you got off the Great Plateau, but now
the game is now telling you "Okay, thats it! Hyrule is yours, go out and have an adventure!"
Honestly, its about picking a direction and exploring. The worst thing you can do is stick to that direction. If, while you're traveling to that giant volcano/mountain/bird of death/etc., something catches your eye, go there! The game rewards those who go off exploring.
As for the weapson system, my advice is not to fight it. There's a chaotic, frantic flow to combat, and the game encourages you to use everything (everything! Dont forget about the runes!) while you engage with enemies.
Hope you can get back into it and enjoy it. Just throw the numbers and expectstions away and dive in deep. Im rooting for ya!
after getting to Hateno Village
Honestly, its about picking a direction and exploring. The worst thing you can do is stick to that direction. If, while you're traveling to that giant volcano/mountain/bird of death/etc., something catches your eye, go there! The game rewards those who go off exploring.
As for the weapson system, my advice is not to fight it. There's a chaotic, frantic flow to combat, and the game encourages you to use everything (everything! Dont forget about the runes!) while you engage with enemies.
Hope you can get back into it and enjoy it. Just throw the numbers and expectstions away and dive in deep. Im rooting for ya!
Those are some weird ass complaints OP has. Even more suspicious is the silly "has Witcher spoiled me" line, lmao.
Complaining about controls 🤔
Complaining about too many characters 🤔
Complaining about goofy dialogue 🤔
But whatever, of you don't like it, head to GameStop and sell it. You might get some cash back.
Complaining about controls 🤔
Complaining about too many characters 🤔
Complaining about goofy dialogue 🤔
But whatever, of you don't like it, head to GameStop and sell it. You might get some cash back.
With a wink and smile of course. I just love that post in general. Almost as good as "Square just shot themselves in the foot" in terms of how nuts it is.
Tevious
Member
BotW is the least Zelda-like game of the series. It's not going to scratch that Zelda itch if you want to play interesting dungeons, fight fun bosses, or listen to Zelda music. The characters are goofy, as you say, and the story lacks appeal even compared to other games in the series. If you're not enjoying the game for the exploration, puzzles, and diverse combat situations, then it's just not for you. Personally, I thought the game was a disappointment as a "Zelda" game, but still found it to be a fun and good game. However, not as great as some others praise it to be.
Those kinds of posts are in every review thread. It's just so weird to me to see so much community push back over BotW getting a good score. TLOU never had threads like this, and most folks are too scared to even mention if they don't like the game. I'm sure there were people mad about some mediocre review score, but I don't see people bringing up those reviews the way Sterling is being praised for being "right." It seems the new meta is to talk about why you saw the game wasn't "perfect" like the "fanboys."
lvl99 Pixel
Member
TLOU was the most listed game in a recent "which masterpiece did you not like" thread
theres most definitely not a unanimous agreement
What you say is true, but I didn't find him particularly souless, not more so than any of his other incarnations, sure I'll give you he wasn't the most expressive either.
Yes, but it's in a particular thread about disliking all games. BotW "hate" is all over the place, even in twitch chat in PUBG channels, and has had at least a couple threads on GAF dedicated to just that. And that goes to my point, that folks are far less likely to voice it than over zelda.
captain_skyhawk
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This game is a bit of a departure from previous zelda titles in both good and bad ways depending on your expectations. Personally while I enjoyed the game a lot it was for any of the reasons i enjoyed previous titles.
This game goes for a wide flat experience with very little highs and lows except for those "created" by the player where previous titles ramp up to great heights at the end of dungeons and etc.
This game goes for a wide flat experience with very little highs and lows except for those "created" by the player where previous titles ramp up to great heights at the end of dungeons and etc.
metalmachine
Member
This pretty much hits it on the head for me with the exception of the climbing, which I like. I'm still not going to give up on it like I said, I'm going to try to take a different approach.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
Thats because its the new hotness. When TLOU was out you can bet there were more vocal haters.
Elfforkusu
Member
You don't have to like a thing just because it's good.
Probably the Zelda effect. A large budget game once every generation. 2 if you are extra lucky. So the wait and hype seems like forever. Naughty Dog games come by pretty quick (various franchises) so even if it will have been some 4/5 years since the last Last of Us it probably won't have to deal with the Mt. Everest level of anticipation and hype like the typical home console Zelda cycle.
Is it really that hard to figure out?
1. Not wasting your money
2. Having actual games to play on the Switch (If they're playing on the Switch)
3. Fan of the older games so want to continue to be a fan of the series
4. A game like BOTW is LOVED all over the Internet, especially here in GAF, who wouldn't want to join in that celebration and talk to others about the game?
5. Wanting to experience the game with as much happiness and enjoyment as others
6. A combination of all the options
It's like that for any game, you'd have to be the biggest jaded asshole or fanboy to NOT want to like a game.
GameplayWhore
Member
This is unfair. I liked the crap out of this game (and will likely when all is said and done be 300-400 hours into it by this time next year if the DLC is good enough), but it's not beyond reproach. I can't tell you how many times Link got on his knees while I was running around fighting a boss because of it being mapped to the L-stick's button feature. That's very arguably a terrible design decision with respect to controls.
(that said, I personally think the "jump" button placement is fine and that most folk who complain about it simply got too used to it being a specific button in too many games -- just putting that out there as I see it as a common, if curious, complaint)
As for the other two points, OP was saying that both "so many character" and "dialogue" were goofy. That is, there weren't too many characters but too many goofy characters. I don't agree, but I wanted to clarify that point.
That said... jeez, don't cast suspicion on people who don't like games that you like. That's bad form. Just say "I don't agree with you, and here's why...".
I think this might be the "issue".
Zelda BotW is a great game, however, he excels at things that aren't commonly present on Zelda games, especially the ones you said you love (ALttP being the exception, to a degree). In the other hand, he falls short on other things that were series staples.
BotW focus on exploration. The main draw of the game is playing with your curiosity so that you, eventually, see the whole of Hyrule. You can go anywhere and what you may or may not find is what moves the player in this game.
However, the Zelda games that you liked (especially OoT and TP) have a bigger focus on story and create a more linear curated experience. The dungeons, bosses and item variety that you probably loved in those take a back seat in BotW.
So it's more of a case that this is a different Zelda (much more in common with the NES original) so it might not go along with your tastes. Also, if you already have open world fatigue, play it later. This is a game that playing at a very relaxed pace helps the experience.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Hmmm... I think the problem is that you're trying to enjoy the game. Games, movies and books we don't "try" to enjoy just because people usually like it, we just happen to appreciate it or not.
Maybe you should just relax and play it without worrying on getting a specific opinion that you may not really have. Let your opinion come naturally... do not fabricate it just for the sake of fitting in a majority group. If you happen to appreciate it more later, that's good for you... if not, just move on and look for something else that fits your current tastes better.
Maybe you should just relax and play it without worrying on getting a specific opinion that you may not really have. Let your opinion come naturally... do not fabricate it just for the sake of fitting in a majority group. If you happen to appreciate it more later, that's good for you... if not, just move on and look for something else that fits your current tastes better.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
I dont know what to tell you OP. I instantly got hooked on BotW and am currently 40 hours in.
For me this is the first Zelda game Ive actually played. I have like 5 other Zelda games which I never played more than an hour or two.
For me this is the first Zelda game Ive actually played. I have like 5 other Zelda games which I never played more than an hour or two.
As others have already brought up, I do find it fascinating on how a game with such an immense spotlight/pedestal can change how we view or even enjoy a game.
It's no secret how BotW has had numerous (some would say an over abundance!) threads singing its praises. But more interesting is the amount of threads ready to scrutinize and/or critique. Besides the numerous Jim threads (that eventually had to be locked because we kept getting the same talking points from both sides), we actually had a legitimate developer (of a great game I may add) come on site just to offer his criticisms of the game. When does that happen?! Well, I guess for a game like this.
Getting such a high score (and even grabbing the most perfect scores) earns cheers from many, and also raises eyebrows for some. And thats fine, but its just been fascinating to watch the eb and flow of discussion.
It's no secret how BotW has had numerous (some would say an over abundance!) threads singing its praises. But more interesting is the amount of threads ready to scrutinize and/or critique. Besides the numerous Jim threads (that eventually had to be locked because we kept getting the same talking points from both sides), we actually had a legitimate developer (of a great game I may add) come on site just to offer his criticisms of the game. When does that happen?! Well, I guess for a game like this.
Getting such a high score (and even grabbing the most perfect scores) earns cheers from many, and also raises eyebrows for some. And thats fine, but its just been fascinating to watch the eb and flow of discussion.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
Have you tried the golden goose yourself?
OrbitalBeard
Member
They're very different games.
metalmachine
Member
Can you link the thread where the dev posted? If love to read it.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Haha, I have most certainly played the game!
Absolutely loved it. And I can understand (and even agree with) most of the critiques of others, but at the end of the day, the overall game just blew me away. Its certainly a special game.
Mark Brown's piece really voices what I loved about the game.
https://youtu.be/vmIgjAM0uh0
Fine to not like the game, though "goofy dialogue" is an odd complaint considering the, um, nature of the series.
There's definitely a lot to improve on, but man, I'm always taken aback when people say they prefer previous Zeldas. Maybe previous 2D ones are worth going back to, but the older 3D Zeldas feel so slow and restrictive compared to BotW.
There's definitely a lot to improve on, but man, I'm always taken aback when people say they prefer previous Zeldas. Maybe previous 2D ones are worth going back to, but the older 3D Zeldas feel so slow and restrictive compared to BotW.