Great games are still coming out, but i bet that the PS360 had seen more newer ips than the PS4Xbone generation.
I use "Boy's club" liberally. To refer to the old guard who kept gaming from turning into the mainstream mess that is today.
Growing up, I actually did play a lot of video games around girls. I even remembered in Middle School/ High School, I saw lots of girls bringing in DS and PSPs to class which kinda surprised me.
The point however is that gaming didn't actually care if you were a boy or a girl or LGBT. You just shut up, and criticize a game for its gameplay. It didn't need to be made any more welcoming than that.
Now fast forward today and major Game Studios are actually saying "Diversity is just as important as gameplay". Um, no sweetie. 20 years ago, games played fine without making a point of which skin color you controlled.
will we ever get to a point where games are complete on arrival and dlc adds rather than being cut content.
Time to bust out the SNES
With disingenuous misrepresentations like this you are part of the problemwe've had the controversy of BFV having female characters. Which while historically inaccurate doesnt ruin the over all game experience.
No online played a big role in that magicVery simple: The magic of the 90s and 2000s has finally faded away,
No online played a big role in that magic
Thats why i like Sony and Nintendo
Indies are a victim of their own success as well, with so much abundance its more and more difficult to stand out from the rest not to mention increasing expectations and budgetsLike any market, usurpers will rise to cater to audiences that aren't getting what they want from AAA devs. 10 years ago the "indie" scene on console was barely a step above Flash browser games (Castle Crashers, Braid, Geometry Wars, etc).
Nowadays every videogame genre is being made by "indies" and those lines continue to blur. They are pushing up-market and AAA keeps fleeing into better graphics and bigger budgets. There won't be a "crash" but I expect a lot of current-day developers and franchises to die off next gen.
Gaming is vast and exciting right now. If you feel it's going in a bad direction, that's more of an inditement on what sort of games you're looking at.
Agreed, it's not a perfect situation and I expect many more indies to crash and burn as well. But at least the good ones are making games in genres that the AAA devs either abandoned or couldn't figure out themselves.Indies are a victim of their own success as well, with so much abundance its more and more difficult to stand out from the rest not to mention increasing expectations and budgets
Good thing Kickstarter exists
Indies are the new B gamesAgreed, it's not a perfect situation and I expect many more indies to crash and burn as well. But at least the good ones are making games in genres that the AAA devs either abandoned or couldn't figure out themselves.
bare with me guys this could be a red flag to some on here but sure.
WHAT THE FUCK HAS HAPPENED TO THIS HOBBY?
Is it just me or has this for of entertainment got so much more toxic than it was a few years ago? While there's always been a few twats on online i have always been lucky enough to avoid most of it thankfully.
recently, we've had that twat that hit his wife while streaming, we've had the controversy of BFV having female characters. Which while historically inaccurate doesnt ruin the over all game experience.
we've had the ridiculous obsession with microtransactions and cosmetic dlc.
we've had the loot boxes.
will we head back to a time when the hobby was fun? will we ever get to a point where games are complete on arrival and dlc adds rather than being cut content.
and for the love of god will the moaning entitled fuckwits that ruin this online ever just move on
thoughts?
Gaming isn't made for us anymore. It's made for your mom, grandma, that girl on twitch who needs something piss easy to play so she can show off her fake tits to beta males, etc.
Lots of companies are also greedy as fuck. Then there's the pathetic people who don't actually like games but feel the need to police them so they can fit in with their bland PC PG standards.
Gaming isn't made for us anymore. It's made for your mom, grandma, that girl on twitch who needs something piss easy to play so she can show off her fake tits to beta males, etc.
Lots of companies are also greedy as fuck. Then there's the pathetic people who don't actually like games but feel the need to police them so they can fit in with their bland PC PG standards.
That's not really a healthy attitude to take. I don't want gaming to be a snobbish "boy's club" like you do. I want women (and the LGBT community, and...) to feel more comfortable playing games, to see more of their stories represented. I want gaming to be a place for anyone with the interest and commitment to play, whether they're playing Fortnite for the first time on their phone or getting their third prestige in Black Ops 4 on a custom-built PC. Ultimately, I want gaming to be welcoming and inclusive.
Think about it for a moment... it's gaming. The notion that you need a certain level of dedication to be a 'real' gamer is ludicrous. You're supposed to be having fun, not passing a bar exam. Instead of focusing energy on hate, I'd rather be a good person and encourage as many people to come into the fold as possible.
lol it was funny to read though lmaoWhat? That's one of the most asinine comments I have heard.
It's true, games are being made by business people now.
Just like there are no goods movies anymore, there are not good videogames anymore.
Wrestling old timers say the same thing, and the same happened there too. Strictly speaking, when people that don't belong into a business see that the business can make lots of money, they join, push it, don't protect it, and destroy it.
"And now a bunch of college geeks who have never been in a fight in their life have to write stuff for actual tough men about how to be cool".
Shut up. Games have always been diverse. There were always been gamers and developers of all kinds. And stories of all kinds. Anyone who claim otherwise is just ignorant.
And don't speak for others. It makes you look like a smug SJW.
Gaming is the most democratic place that exists. It's the closest we will ever get to a meritocracy. All you need to join is to learn how to play the game and get good.
Edit: Google Phantasy Star and behold your own ignorance.
Shut up. Games have always been diverse. There were always been gamers and developers of all kinds. And stories of all kinds. Anyone who claim otherwise is just ignorant.
And don't speak for others. It makes you look like a smug SJW.
Gaming is the most democratic place that exists. It's the closest we will ever get to a meritocracy. All you need to join is to learn how to play the game and get good.
Edit: Google Phantasy Star and behold your own ignorance.
No, I will not shut up. I will be loud. So long as you're going to make unsupported claims about diversity while trying to silence anyone who argues for diversity, I will happily speak up and make you uncomfortable.
There's a difference between merely having games with non-male protagonists and actually making games from distinctly non-male perspectives, not to mention having a genuinely inclusive industry where games with women and minority protagonists aren't considered exceptions.
I mean, really, you're going to cite Phantasy Star as proof that games have always been diverse? "Okay, guys, here's one old game with a female lead character! Guess sexism in games never existed!" Yeah, and I'm sure Custer's Revenge is wholly representative of video game culture, too. The issue is not that games with meaningful non-male, non-white characters weren't around until recently, it's that they've tended to be exceptions, token efforts or shunted to the sidelines. Yeah, I'm sure there were games from distinctly female and minority perspectives in the '80s, but you couldn't just wander into an arcade or game store and expect to find them.
(Also, it's ironic that you call me smug while simultaneously assuming that I've never heard of Phantasy Star. I was around for and aware of that game when it was new; I'm not even sure if you existed.)
You're not really espousing a democratic view of gaming so much as an Ayn Rand one... that is, the false notion that the market naturally reflects what everyone wants. You know that's not true. If a woman plays a dudebro shooter like Call of Duty or Gears of War, that doesn't mean she's happy with how women are represented in gaming. It means she's playing what's available and may be merely tolerating the lack of representation. And I'm sorry, but while there are certainly developers making games distinctly with women and minority perspectives in mind, they tend to be indies that can't make a blockbuster shooter or RPG at the drop of a hat. So long as the industry is dominated by a handful of multi-billion-dollar giants, we should ask those giants to explore games that aren't just white male power fantasies.