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What to do about The Joker?

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Neuromancer said:
If we're in the world of the comics let's face it people, this is an unwinnable game.
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Also true.

Superheroes and their villains can only really die or be permanently retired in limited, self-contained adaptations.

In almost any given main continuity, superhero comics are a soap opera in which there is literally no shortage of ways to live forever or resurrect. Temporary setbacks at most are all that will happen, unless a character is unpopular. Joker is exceedingly popular.
 
WanderingWind said:
I mean, the question positions itself between reality and comic book logic. In the real world, he would have been killed a long time ago. Nobody alive would defend him at this point, as even the most liberal psychologist would've caved after the 20 massacre or so. The amount of people he's killed has been drastic enough that most people would killing him would be the equivalent of putting down a rabid dog. It's not the dog's fault that he kills, but we still can't allow it to continue killing, just because it's his nature. Same with the Joker. He would be dead, and a billion books/movies/TV shows would be made about him.
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Or at least stuck in ADX Florence, with everyone just waiting him to wither away and die of natural causes.
 
Vinci said:
Bad idea. Believe me, if anyone were to take futuristic technology and come back into the past to screw people over with it, it's the damn Joker.
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True. Send him far into the past then. No way back. No tech.
 
Neuromancer said:
If we're in the world of the comics let's face it people, this is an unwinnable game.
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Well sure. Comics Joker is effectively immortal, as probably the most popular DC villain.

But "it's impossible to do anything" makes for a kind of boring thread.

So, for real-world Joker: single bullet to the head. Comics-world: don't even try, resign as mayor, change your name and move to South America.
 
If comics-world was real, everyone would have turned on Batman a long time ago for continually putting criminals in the worst-secured asylum ever.
 
Or hire Michael Keaton to take care of him

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Joker has gone from an interesting character to a lame plot device. The joker can get away with anything because he is "soooooo krazy."
 
Actually, I take it back.

Just abandon the pretense that you can hold him, and give direct custody and responsibility to Batman.

If Batman will not accept, play chicken with Batman and let him know you will not detain Joker under any circumstances.
 
Assassinate him through covert ops, then use your own crime syndicate to step in and assume his role, causing chaos and keeping your political foes at bay.
 
Cyan said:
So, for real-world Joker: single bullet to the head. Comics-world: don't even try, resign as mayor, change your name and move to South America.
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Well, at least don't run for mayor, and move out of Gotham. I mean, at least in Metropolis, there is a proactive super hero rather then a reactive Batman.
 
ElFly said:
Take the matter in my own hands.

I am...

MAYOR-MAN

Anyway, this just shows that the whole premise of a storytelling device that is created to never end is flawed. In any other kind of story, EXCEPT american super hero comic books, the batman / joker conflict would have been solved one way or another long ago.
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Naraku DID die though. Took a very, very long time, but mangas do tend to have an endpoint and don't tend to switch artists / writers.
 
Leunam's Green Lantern suggestion has me wondering why the Justice League as a whole hasn't stepped in. I could understand trying to respect Bats, but you'd figure that someone like Wonder Woman, for example, would eventually be like "Fuck this shit" and lock him on Themiscyra or something.

Mononofu said:
Fixed
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Or that! How could I forget the Phantom Zone? Seriously, Batman has like a million solutions to this problem staring him right in the face.
 
JayDubya said:
Actually, I take it back.

Just abandon the pretense that you can hold him, and give direct custody and responsibility to Batman.

If Batman will not accept, play chicken with Batman and let him know you will not detain Joker under any circumstances.
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Not a bad idea, actually. Just tell him: "If Joker ever escapes from your enclosure, I will assume that it is impossible to hold the madman, and I will order he be killed in some fashion or another. So by holding him, you're saving his life - since you seem to care so desperately about it."
 
ReiGun said:
Leunam's Green Lantern suggestion has me wondering why the Justice League as a whole hasn't stepped in. I could understand trying to respect Bats, but you'd figure that someone like Wonder Woman, for example, would eventually be like "Fuck this shit" and lock him on Themiscyra or something.
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She has her on solutions.
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It really is a matter of scale and continuity as well.

Why lock him up in Arkham at all when they could keep him under constant JLA supervision in outer fucking space.
 
JayDubya said:
Actually, I take it back.

Just abandon the pretense that you can hold him, and give direct custody and responsibility to Batman.

If Batman will not accept, play chicken with Batman and let him know you will not detain Joker under any circumstances.
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I actually really like this idea.
 
Mama Robotnik said:
On the fifth day it becomes apparent that The Joker is abducting cats, bleaching them white, painting his own clownish features onto them, and releasing them back into the wild. Hundreds of people can no longer tell their pet cats apart.
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This is precisely why we have one of those ID chips placed in our cat.

In fact, most pet adoption agencies/vets chip pets nowadays. Unless the Joker is doing some very invasive surgery on those cats (which does not seem to not be the case based on the original scenario), this part of the plan would be pretty much foiled.
 
Vinci said:
Not a bad idea, actually. Just tell him: "If Joker ever escapes from your enclosure, I will assume that it is impossible to hold the madman, and I will order he be killed in some fashion or another. So by holding him, you're saving his life - since you seem to care so desperately about it."
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Sometimes the only solution to a problem is to not play.

Technically, Batman cannot succeed in holding him forever, and you will never succeed in killing him, so it's all a catch 22 anyway.

But we're in a fuzzy pseudo-realism mode here and we're also kind of assuming the rest of the ol DCU isn't at Bats' disposal.
 
Shit, I will shoot him, and then when Batman objects, I would bring out the families of victims between the last time Batman brought the Joker to "justice" and the shooting, then give him a finger and tell him to take his moralities and shove 'em straight up his ass.
 
Poison him. Fire the current coroner and appoint a crony to handle the case and say it was a heart attack or something.
 
Another bit of lateral thinking. Go meta.

Figure out a way to make Joker lose popularity with DC fans, and apply it. Great. Now, Joker can die or be lobotomized.

It won't be a permanent solution, because past popularity fuels nostalgia which fuels later comebacks, but at least that could be the next mayor's problem.
 
Stumpokapow said:
given that the joker has committed crimes that would get him the federal death penalty, the governor's opinion is moot. rehabilitation isn't a concern, possible innocence isn't a concern, escape from a maximum security facility apparently is--this is a no brainer case for the death penalty.
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And you think he's just going to sit tight in his cell waiting for the impending trial, conviction, numerous appeals and the carrying of the sentence?

How many people die in between?
 
Call up Central City and ask if he is in town
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Or have this guy to police Arkham
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Honestly if I ran for mayor of Gotham, I would be pro Capitol punishment, the Batman be damned. Besides, I would try to contact a certain gentleman named Slade if there any external issues with my policy.
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It's kind of funny that currently in Spiderman right now JJJ the mayor of New York just instituted a zero tolerance rule for mass murders. A wink wink nod nod system where they "pass away" during apprehension.
 
Snuggler said:
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he won't be so sassy after that
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Neither will everyone else when they realise The Joker actually brainwashed and drugged an innocent man to take his place, and was the mastermind that proposed the brutal execution in the first place.
 
Matt_C said:
Call up Central City and ask if he is in town
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Or have this guy to police Arkham
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Honestly if I ran for mayor of Gotham, I would be pro Capitol punishment, the Batman be damned. Besides, I would try to contact a certain gentleman named Slade if there any external issues with my policy.
:lol
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Deathstroke has his own problems right now. Unless you want to spring for a seeing eye dog.
 
I'd flat kill him. There's not one guard who wouldn't cover it up or say I was wrong for doing it. I go into the room with him cuffed to a bed with my bribed guardswith grudges blocking view of the door and cameras off and put three bullets in him. Head. Heart. Knee. I then uncuff the bastard flip a table say he rushed me, I clipped his knee and then put two in him when he fell.

Scrub the bed of blood, recover ballistics and replace the bed with a new one, pay the guards for silence, and go home.

No ballistics or blood on bed. No evidence on bed if found, and no witnesses with a reason to come forward.
 
Pretty much what everyone else has said at this point....if your Gotham is in the realm of the larger DC universe, someone else would have intervened at this point (JLA) and he'd be imprisoned on an alien planet or something.

If this Gotham is self-contained, or "more realistic", he would have been deemed an enemy combatant by homeland security and taken out with extreme prejudice, killing 74 people would be one of our greatest national tragedies.

Or if you don't want to even go that far, like others have said, have him killed in Arkham on the downlo, even if you get caught what jury is going to convict you???
 
Contact the Flash (Wally West) through Batman (Dick Grayson).

Have him steal all the Joker's velocity and freeze him in time like he did that one kid.

Or contact one of the Green Lanterns and see if they can convince the Guardians to lock the Joker up in a cell on OA.
 
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