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FEAR has incredible gunplay. That is fact.Sill4 said:
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This has to be one of the best compromises any first or third person shooter could have in relation to realistic shooting mechanics. Most video game firearms don't even come across as loud as a .22, let alone anything they might be trying to depict on screen.Nessus said:
Gunplay obviously has different definitions to different people, potentially hampering reasonable discussion. F.E.A.R. is a clear example of outstanding firearms mechanics; every weapon is unique and different, translating well to their real-world counterparts. Nothing has been nerfed, so the pistol can be just as deadly as the assault rifle; just the same, there's not really any gun that's blatantly overpowered, either.
While not trying to be realistic, Gears of War also has fierce weapon mechanics. There was criticism that enemies don't react to being shot; this is bullshit, and anyone who has played Quantum Theory knows that. Locust recoil with a predictable amount of Lancer machine gun fire, they cower and stutter when pelted with the Gnasher shotgun, and get blown into satisfying giblets with the Hammer of Dawn. They give the impression of enemies with a thick leathery hide that's not easily penetrated, but there's no doubt they react when fired upon; much more "realistically" than human bullet sponges do. It's only when you play a spectacularly shitty game like Quantum Theory that you realize how much Epic got right. For those who haven't partaken, enemies in QT literally don't react to any fire, and disappear in a puff of smoke when thwarted. Simply breathtaking.
Guns in Gears have recoil like they're forty pound armaments held by muscle-bound linebackers. The Lancer recoils some, but it will never go haywire. The considerably smaller Gorgon Burst Pistol has a scattershot recoil one would expect from such a weapon. Within the context of the in-game environment, everything makes sense.
Another game worth noting is Kane and Lynch 2: Dog Days. The game is built around heated exchanges under cover with wildly inaccurate weapons characterized by realistic recoil. People complained that they couldn't easily headshot people with a .38 snubnose at ten yards. Well, I've got news for you, those things are hard enough to aim and fire period, let alone at something shooting back at you. Ever hear of police or gang shootouts where fifty shots are fired and maybe a handful actually hit their target? That's Dog Days for you. As to how this helps or hinders a game, that's debatable, but I suppose it's another example showing not everyone truly wants realistic firearms in their games.
TheKaeptain
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Vanquish has good gun play.
Fallout-NL
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vocab said:
What the fuck man, the sound is fucking amazing in BC2.
The Interrobanger
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Killzone 2
Uncharted 2
Kane & Lynch 2
I never played FEAR, but I didn't love [the gunplay in] FEAR 2. Did they change anything from the first to second game?
Uncharted 2
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I never played FEAR, but I didn't love [the gunplay in] FEAR 2. Did they change anything from the first to second game?
Net_Wrecker
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The Interrobanger said:
I haven't played any of the FEAR games, but from the looks of Youtube vids, there seems to be a big difference from the first to the second game.
RocketDarkness
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Killing Floor feels fantastic. Especially when it drops into ZED time and you can appreciate the weapons in all their glory. I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet.
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Its pretty good, but they did way too much with the dynamic volume imo. Its very aggressive. Anyone who thinks War Tapes sounds better than Hi Fi either doesn't have a good system or doesn't have an ear for accurate sound recreation. I believe it makes it so that something is always occupying the loudest volume range. Its really distracting for me, because it causes strong shifts in the volume of any sound, if a stronger one occurs while its happening. So you'll hear gunshots at one volume, then an explosion goes off near you and all of the sudden the gunshots go to half-volume. Its distracting and inaccurate.Fallout-NL said:
MoH's sound design is more subtle with doing this kind of thing, and from my experience it demands that you turn the volume up louder than most games because it keeps the levels more natural and isn't constantly trying to create a loud sound environment like BC2's War Tapes does. Listening to MoH's single player (what I'm talking about here) and then the multiplayer (by Dice with similar sound to BC2) really highlights this. The SP is a lot more dynamic.
I don't believe I'm mistaken here, but if anyone has any corrections toss 'em out.
NullPointer
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Hear hear.Rikyfree said:
Reach also improved the gunplay dramatically over Halo 3. I'd also throw in Bad Company 2.
slipknot2009
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Looking forward to Killzone 3's gunplay more than anything so far in early 2011. Dual Shock 3 or SMG / sharpshooter Move + EyeToy control schemes. Pretty innovative stuff with options for everyone.
Games that I feel have the best gunplay = Uncharted 2, Bad Company 2, F.E.A.R., Killzone 2, Counter-Strike: Source
Killing is so satisfying in these above games and the guns handle well and differently from one another unlike other games where you can spray down half the weapons with barely any recoil.
Killing is so satisfying in these above games and the guns handle well and differently from one another unlike other games where you can spray down half the weapons with barely any recoil.
It's weird that some people in this thread thought that Gears of War's weapons felt weak or had terrible sounds..they must have used exclusively the Lancer because the feel and sounds of weapons like the shotgun, sniper rifle, magnum, pistol or the hammer of dawn are freakin' great - of course the awesome gore helps a lot on making the weapons feel powerful...too bad the gunplay on Gears 2 turned to shit.
Some other games that also have great gunplay IMO:
Some other games that also have great gunplay IMO:
- Resident Evil 4 & 5 (just for Hydra alone)
- F.E.A.R.
- Vanquish
- Battlefield: BC2
- Black
- Halo: CE & Reach
- Doom 1 & 2
Barrow Roll
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This FEAR circle jerk has me intrigued. Is it worth picking up on consoles or should I just dream of the day I can play it on a good PC?
BattleMonkey
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Barrow Roll said:
You don't need a good PC to play FEAR, game is old
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Lostconfused said:
And? Game still has shit gunplay. Spit wad machine guns that enemies don't even react to when getting hit and entire clips needed to bring them down? Multiple shotgun blasts to bring down an enemy at close range at times? Punching has more ooomph than the guns, which is sad.
So many good examples in this thread of games with excellent gun play.
Barrow Roll
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You don't understand how old my PC is. It cannot play WoW.BattleMonkey said:
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I like your taste. I would add C.S 1.5-1.6.reKon said:
BattleMonkey said:
Gears has unique gunplay that sets it apart from the crowd. I'd actually argue that the gunplay is GoW's claim to fame, but most people say it's the cover system.
Enemies react BIG TIME when shot. Charging locusts can be stopped in the middle of a bumrush with concentrated fire, and will reel back when hit. The normal sized locusts can have their aim disrupted when they reel back.
The whole "empty whole clips" thing is exactly the point of the game. You play as these huge beefy armored dudes with default bullet hoses and you throw out as much lead as you can. You can concentrate fire on legs to take enemies down to their knees quickly, their head for a quick kill, but the body takes a lot of damage.
Big dudes like Maulers and Boomers are just straight bullet sponges. They react visually when shot, but it doesn't disrupt their attacks afaik.
Gears has unique, well though out gunplay that sets it apart from the shooter crowd (or at least, it did). If your not in the mood to blast away at an enemie with dozens of bullets, don't play it, you'll hate it. Doesn't make it "shit".
Not true, buttsex with space aliens has been scientifically proven to be good 10/10. You cannot argue this.Monroeski said:
How has this thread become so long without the Left 4 Dead series?! L4D has some great gunplay the weapons are damn fun espcially with all the visual damage your guns cause (shooting out bowels, limbs, chunks of zombie heads). no matter the unrealistic recoil but for me gunplay means how much fun a shooting game is. For me L4D is below UT2k3 and on par with FEAR.
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Just speaking your opinion I suppose. But DICE's audio work on Bad Co 2 is outstanding in my opinion. It might not be the most realistic, but I haven't been in a battlefield, I don't know what it would sound like. But playing that game with a decent cinema set-up really "puts you in there" like nothing else.vocab said:
Oh, and SoF sucks.
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Spoken like someone who missed the SOF2 boat. Shit was so good.-NinjaBoiX- said:
-NinjaBoiX- said:Oh, and SoF sucks.
It's not even in my top 30 list. Say what you want, I really could care less about those games when it comes to single player. I only praise the fun multiplayer to both games, and the attention to detail on the gun sounds, how they shoot and how limbs fly off. I'll take that game over any other modern day dude bro shooter.