DarkoMaledictus
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What's up with all the negativity around The Last of Us now?
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curlyfriski
Banned
Flipping out because other people don't like a game you like? Classic GAF.
To kill these fuckers here's what I do
keep an empty bottle or brick on you and bait them then hit them with a molotov/bomb. Try to get as many around in earshot of the bottle you threw so you can get several with one go
AdventureRacing
Member
If that's what you wanted to do why are you posting in a thread about the backlash towards the game instead of the OT?
Trent Strong
Banned
Last of Us is about a million times better than Infinite.
Messofanego
Banned
Lupin3
Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
I think mainly it's because the AI is dumb, the graphics are not that spectacular, the aiming is imprecise and you do a lot of things many times over and over again.
Great game nonetheless though. Very interesting and a lot of fun to play.
iceatcs
Junior Member
Always, it was my old job.
But I can't believe it still ongoing fanboy war in user rating system.
AcceptableGhost
Member
Nervous Sausage
Member
Easily the best game I've played all year, way better than Bioshock Infinite and one of the best games I've ever played.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
I'm really surprised at the length of this game. Considering the amazing graphics I thought this game would be a lot shorter. I've played it around 5 hours on 4 evenings now and still haven't finished it. Crazy!
This is definitly game of the year. If it weren't for the bugs I'd be right there with RDR as game of the generation. I'm really sick of enemies just plopping into the game. Happened to me 3-4 times throughout the game. I really hope they fix this soon.
This is definitly game of the year. If it weren't for the bugs I'd be right there with RDR as game of the generation. I'm really sick of enemies just plopping into the game. Happened to me 3-4 times throughout the game. I really hope they fix this soon.
Can you really deny it's probably not the kind of game for him though? It may be one of the best games of the more linear/cinematic mold, but if he doesn't particularly care for that kind of game then at best it's probably going to be "pretty good", but not to the extent to justify buying right away. Hell, I'd have skipped for now if it weren't for Redbox, and while I'm serious about it being one of the best of its kind it's still not the kind of game I'd REALLY want to spend full price on, so I think he's probably making the right call at this point in time.
Man, and this is a response to a level headed "based on what I heard this probably isn't for me" response. There IS a difference between frothing irrational hate (or even just intense dislike) versus a level headed dissenting opinion. Hell, that specifically wasn't even really that. It DOES seem to me like some people are taking offense to anyone just not liking or even not LOVING the game entirely.
Finished it yesterday and thought it was absolutely outstanding on every facet. Particularly the acting/writing is just in a league of it's own (actually felt like tweeting Ashley Johnson, Troy Baker and Neil Druckman afterwards to commend them on it when the credits rolled... didn't though). Each to their own though gamers. Your own reaction to the game is the only one that really matters. Nothing will every be universally admired.
JordoftheDead
Member
People will nitpick. The game is great and sets it's sights higher then most games do.
Juniors whining about GAF is the weirdest thing. Once again: If you don't like "typical" GAF, why are you here?
Just wanted to update since some people were getting bitchy about my posts in this thread, and not playing the game.
I bought it. I'm about 3 hours into the game so far. And so far ... I think it's unfortunately exactly what I didn't want.
75% of the game so far has just been sections with forced walking where I can't do anything. Even in those sections, the AI awkwardly bumps into me and knocks me off ladders. Some of the dialogue from my teammate has been less than helpful. One section where we were trying to escape at night, she literally says "okay, you ready? On my mark run!" So I run, and these soldiers were just unloading bullets into me even though the spotlight wasn't on me. After trying this a few times and dying, a help message popped up on the game over screen saying I was an easy target for running at the enemy ... but the only reason I even did is because she's literally telling me to run. So I started ignoring her and just sneaking like I was before and I got past that part fine.
One part when we were in a forced walking section, she moved a bookcase out of the way, opening up a small hole in the wall. I tried walking through it, and was just hitting an invisible wall. Both my AI teammates walked ahead of me and squeezed through, then it allowed me to go through. It's just so restrictive and scripted ...
The graphics and the story so far are top notch, and I'm enjoying both quite a lot. But that's pretty much what I expected. I never had any doubts that it would deliver in those areas. Right now, they're so much better than the gameplay that I almost wish it was just a movie.
The level design seems extremely convoluted right now. It's visually impressive, but it's just trying too hard when you always have to walk through an abandoned truck instead of just walking up the hill, then there's a perfectly sized hole to crawl through, then you go up a set of stairs on the side of a building so you can go through another perfectly placed hole that winds around to a door instead of just ... walking around the building. It just doesn't seem that realistic that anyone would really traverse through environments like this.
And the worst part is that even with the convoluted, winding level design, you can't take advantage of that in any actual gameplay. I was at a stealth section at the shipyard, and there are huge shipping crates stacked up all over. There are boxes right next to them that aren't even chest high and you can't climb up on top of them at all. They're completely within reach. You should be able to climb up on top, and get on top of the shipping crates and get a better vantage point to scope out the area and get a better firing line, but you can't interact with the boxes at all.
So far, I like the new Tomb Raider about 1000x more, including the graphics. It just controls so much better, and has much less restrictive gameplay. There's some real meat to the game, in the form of stealth, platforming, and better gunplay.
I'm not rubbing this in everyone's face like I'm some elitist. Honestly, this time I'm just depressed. My opinions on games just never match up with the majority of people here, and I hoped they would this time. I'll try and get through it until the end, but honestly, running into poorly designed stealth sections and dying and restarting, and going through dozens of sections of forced walking and dialogue are just punishing right now. I really regret buying this for $60. It's got insane production values, but it's just completely not for me.
Naughty Dog is officially on my do not buy new list, along with Rockstar. No matter how many perfect 10 reviews I read from people talking about these games, I now know they do not apply to me at all. I haven't been this disappointed since Red Dead Redemption. I wish I saved my money for Splinter Cell in August.
I bought it. I'm about 3 hours into the game so far. And so far ... I think it's unfortunately exactly what I didn't want.
75% of the game so far has just been sections with forced walking where I can't do anything. Even in those sections, the AI awkwardly bumps into me and knocks me off ladders. Some of the dialogue from my teammate has been less than helpful. One section where we were trying to escape at night, she literally says "okay, you ready? On my mark run!" So I run, and these soldiers were just unloading bullets into me even though the spotlight wasn't on me. After trying this a few times and dying, a help message popped up on the game over screen saying I was an easy target for running at the enemy ... but the only reason I even did is because she's literally telling me to run. So I started ignoring her and just sneaking like I was before and I got past that part fine.
One part when we were in a forced walking section, she moved a bookcase out of the way, opening up a small hole in the wall. I tried walking through it, and was just hitting an invisible wall. Both my AI teammates walked ahead of me and squeezed through, then it allowed me to go through. It's just so restrictive and scripted ...
The graphics and the story so far are top notch, and I'm enjoying both quite a lot. But that's pretty much what I expected. I never had any doubts that it would deliver in those areas. Right now, they're so much better than the gameplay that I almost wish it was just a movie.
The level design seems extremely convoluted right now. It's visually impressive, but it's just trying too hard when you always have to walk through an abandoned truck instead of just walking up the hill, then there's a perfectly sized hole to crawl through, then you go up a set of stairs on the side of a building so you can go through another perfectly placed hole that winds around to a door instead of just ... walking around the building. It just doesn't seem that realistic that anyone would really traverse through environments like this.
And the worst part is that even with the convoluted, winding level design, you can't take advantage of that in any actual gameplay. I was at a stealth section at the shipyard, and there are huge shipping crates stacked up all over. There are boxes right next to them that aren't even chest high and you can't climb up on top of them at all. They're completely within reach. You should be able to climb up on top, and get on top of the shipping crates and get a better vantage point to scope out the area and get a better firing line, but you can't interact with the boxes at all.
So far, I like the new Tomb Raider about 1000x more, including the graphics. It just controls so much better, and has much less restrictive gameplay. There's some real meat to the game, in the form of stealth, platforming, and better gunplay.
I'm not rubbing this in everyone's face like I'm some elitist. Honestly, this time I'm just depressed. My opinions on games just never match up with the majority of people here, and I hoped they would this time. I'll try and get through it until the end, but honestly, running into poorly designed stealth sections and dying and restarting, and going through dozens of sections of forced walking and dialogue are just punishing right now. I really regret buying this for $60. It's got insane production values, but it's just completely not for me.
Naughty Dog is officially on my do not buy new list, along with Rockstar. No matter how many perfect 10 reviews I read from people talking about these games, I now know they do not apply to me at all. I haven't been this disappointed since Red Dead Redemption. I wish I saved my money for Splinter Cell in August.
I don't want to be 'that guy' but give it some more time. I had pretty similar opinions to you after I spent the first couple of hours walking around and not actually doing much. Eventually the game really opens up and I'm currently 9 hours in and it's almost constant combat/stealth scenarios.
Your opinions are fine, but I do recommend giving it a few more hours until it opens up more. The slow, dragging opening and weird partner AI are definitely my main complaints though.
Your opinions are fine, but I do recommend giving it a few more hours until it opens up more. The slow, dragging opening and weird partner AI are definitely my main complaints though.
When she says run, you watch where they go and then follow instead of running straight ahead into the enemies sprinting like a maniac. :\ With this game especially, you have to take it slow and take your time.
It's fine to not like her. But it's fine fine to label her music "mainstream" because she is the complete opposite of that. Those people hate her because she is popular, no more.
Yeah, I will. I hope it does.
Messofanego
Banned
It's like modern games are forcing you to stare at backsides and butts. If you're going to restrict me like that, get some better butts in there.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Picked this game up yesterday and I'm about 4 hours in (30% completion according to the save file). This is going to sound weird, but I think that due to its Naughty Dog pedigree this game has been getting a pass for a lot of things that reviewers blasted Resident Evil 6 for.
Forced walking sections? Check. Invincible AI partners? Check. Scripted enemy spawning? Check. Feelings of fear and horror blunted by an ever-present checkpoint system? Check.
I really enjoyed Resident Evil 6 and I didn't mind these things at all in that game, so I don't really mind them here either, but I find it hilarious that reviewers are giving TLoU a pass for all these supposedly heinous offenses that RE6 perpetrated.
Anyway the game is really good so far and I look forward to finishing it up over the course of the week.
Forced walking sections? Check. Invincible AI partners? Check. Scripted enemy spawning? Check. Feelings of fear and horror blunted by an ever-present checkpoint system? Check.
I really enjoyed Resident Evil 6 and I didn't mind these things at all in that game, so I don't really mind them here either, but I find it hilarious that reviewers are giving TLoU a pass for all these supposedly heinous offenses that RE6 perpetrated.
Anyway the game is really good so far and I look forward to finishing it up over the course of the week.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Negativity? This game will probably settle on my top 10 games of all time list. And I have played a fuck ton of games.
This is a stunning achievement by Naughty Dog.
This is a stunning achievement by Naughty Dog.
Muffdraul
Member
Nobody said that a certain chunk of the gamer populace having a tendency to form their opinions around their own ego is a "conspiracy".
Agreed. The beginning was a lot of scripted events and sections where you don't have a lot of options for combat. I'm around 8 hours in now and it's opened up a lot more. I think it's combo of having more items to use and more areas where you can get creative.
I'm enjoying the game a ton and can already see myself doing another play through, which is rare for me.
SirButterstick
Banned
Scripted, hand-holding derivitive crap like this 'possibly becoming GAFs GoTY' makes me sad.
1) it's an amazing game
2) far worse has won GOTY on GAF
Anyway, being about an hour away from beating it, a lot of complaints I personally don't agree with. Maybe it's just me.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
But you're wrong. The game might be presented in a very cinematic manner, but when you're actually playing it the game gives you a surprising amount of freedom in how to handle everything. Stealth past everything? Stealth Kill a few guys and take out the other guys by force? Melee things down and preserve your ammo? Use bottles to distract guys and run through, your arsenal is versatile and a lot of fun to use, not to mention every weapon is amazing. I am the person who loves to hate everything. I absolutely detested bioshock infinite, hell I was prepared to hate TLoU I didn't even preorder it or buy a boxed version, but this game blew me away. It may not be a perfect game, but it is definitely special.
Also please think a little bit more before saying stuff like "Scripted crap", if it's a story driven game do you really think it isn't going to be scripted? Do you have a huge problem with scripted events? Why do you have a problem with them? It's how everything moves along, even your most free RPG has scripted events. Think about what it means before saying stuff.
This isn't a game where you're the self insert with a predetermined face and style. You're very much Joel, everything you have to do is what Joel wants to do. You're not doing what you want you're doing what he wants to do even if it contradicts what you want to do.
The biggest problem with the game is that the checkpoint system is too forgiving to the point that it makes encounters trivial if you just let yourself die as soon as it goes to shit and retry without getting hit and wasting ammo.
doublenagger
Banned
SirButterstick
Banned
Excuse me? More 'free' RPGs at least give you the illusion of choice. This is, as I said in the main thread days earlier, is Dragons Lair with more buttons. Sure, it's an oversimplification, but it's a common problem with AAA games.
Granted, I do like story driven games, but this has been a mix of other elements taken from other games that do it waaaaaaaay better. No way do games like this deserve GoTY when there's many more games out there creating many more innovative gameplay developments.
Dude Abides
Banned
And the people who still buy into fanboy and review hype.
It's a great game. Anyone who expects gaming's Citizen Kane is inevitably going to be disappointed.
DC1
Member
And this is where we apply the phrase "whatever floats your boat".
RockStar games and Naughty Dog are my two shining Gold star developers for this gen.
I would put Red Dead and TLOU in a time capsule labeled "4 years of gaming greatness"- Blurring the lines of fantastic gameplay, art. Cinema, acting , the dramatic pursuit and fun.
And.. we would both be correct.
What ever floats your boat.
DecoyOctopus
Member
Oh, the irony! Talk about negativity...
From the Sony E3 Conference thread:
Worst E3 you've ever seen, eh?! lol
This.
People who don't like this game are people I'm not sure I will ever take seriously again. Haha.
rosaceadude2112
Member
inventing a group of fairy people that only hate your favorite games for X reason, thereby making their opinions less valid than yours, strikes me as one
Muffdraul
Member
So, gamer hipsters don't even exist. There's no such thing. Figments of the imagination. OK.
Really?
Whoa, how did you get banned?
edit: nvm he was that guy who bumped many topics.
Dragon1893
Member
OT is one of the most positive I remember reading here on gaf. Most people are saying it's either their goty or gotg. Not sure what's up with this thread.
This thread was made before most people got a chance to play it, lol.
Agreed, although I'd probably say for me personally Bioshock was close but TLOU took it. Loved the setting, story, characters and combat flow. Felt that it sets a real bar for third person titles and completely agree with most of the reviews. Was the first time I've sat and played a game on the PS3 in a long long time but it's easily the best exclusive on the system and showed Naughty Dog are a real asset to Sony moving into the next gen.
The first few hours can feel underwhelming, but it picks up. I know it now that I've played it a lot more. The game has pretty insane atmosphere at times and can be as creepy as any great horror game. The visuals are unrivaled in many areas and the lighting work is second to none.
pharmboy044
Member
Thread backfire? I definitely think so!
It's important for anyone arguing "but every game's scripted!" to remember it's more of a sliding scale. We have at one end Minecraft, and at the other end Heavy Rain that's practically just a series of QTEs, with everything else falling somewhere on that spectrum, with this closer towards the scripted end (though not as bad as some games have been honestly.)
As for GotY: admittedly I do need to see what hits in the rest of the year, but I can see it being my favorite of the AAA games in the end (though it helps I had opposite expectations from Bioshock Infinite, not to mention this seems to execute what it wants to do way better), though it almost certainly won't be my favorite of the year period: we have Shin Megami Tensei IV next month!
Or maybe it's serving to funnel more critical talk out of the OT so most of us just talk about either liking the game or where we're stuck/need help/are too chickenshit to get past (ended up returning it actually... but ALMOST got it right back out thanks to the new free code. Maybe I'll hunt it down tomorrow.) There's real critical discussion to be had, but in general I think as long as you know roughly what you're going to get you can really enjoy the game. Don't go in expecting single player DayZ, but maybe expect DayZ flavored Uncharted (sans waves of enemies and serious climbing around anyway.)