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When did spoilers become such a big deal (no spoilers)
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I call BS on that. Someone complaining about spoiler from season 1 of mad men in the season 5 thread would be laughed out of the thread.
My guess is you're talking about a certain different show that had a secret in the season 1 finale fixing to be unveiled in an upcoming episode of season 2.
dead souls
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My opinion on the matter is simple. If the episode has aired and you haven't seen it, stay out of the official thread if you care about spoilers. I see no point to tag things that aren't actually spoilers, all that does is make a thread read like garbage. Plus it leaves people unsure of what tagged things are actually spoilers.
What the hell are you talking about. No one is going to tell you to not talk about previous episodes in the OT.
Edit: Maybe you're mis-remembering thinking about a story driven video game where it's impossible for people to be at the same place. I hardly go into any video game threads because I've been mostly playing MMO's, but that would make sense. Weekly TV shows and movies for the most part have everyone exiting the flood gates at the same time. Someone who isn't on season 5 of Mad Men shouldn't enter Season 5 OT. That's all on them.
RomanticHeroX
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I love that study. I properly tag spoilers and try to be considerate so as not to be a jerk, but still think how sensitive some people are to spoilers is completely ridiculous.
You Are Viewtiful
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When I get spoilt I get angry initially but when I actually get to the part in the book/tv show/movie I realize having already known what is going to happen didn't make a huge difference in my experience.
I still get angry at spoilers though.
I still get angry at spoilers though.
WiiRevolution1
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It doesn't matter how old it is, you should always spoiler movie, tv shows, or video game spoilers. I got who the killer in Twin Peaks spoiled for me and hated that but I still enjoyed the show...but it would've been cooler if I didn't get it spoiled.
No matter how old it is, there will always be someone who hasn't seen/played it yet and were planning to later on. We all don't have alot of free time to watch/play everything we wanna watch/play.
You should always spoiler spoilers.
On another note, I have actually taken it a step further and actually haven't spoiled any at all of some games. What I mean, for example is when I got Final Fantasy X last year, I didn't even know it was a
It was quite a pleasent surprise. I am now doing this with other games, such as Pokemon B&W2 where besides the regoin and main characters, I don't know jack about the game. They could've turned it into a action rpg for all I know lol. I quite like my new way of staying away from spoilers. I would only do it for game series that I am familiar with tho.
Just spoiler any at all things that could be a spoiler and be done. Don't ruin the killer or plot twist or gameplay feature or death of someone in a game/movie because there will always be someone who hasn't seen/played it and was going to in the future.
I know its well know, but even obvious spoilers like in Final Fantasy VII where
really pissed me off. Its not funny.
No matter how old it is, there will always be someone who hasn't seen/played it yet and were planning to later on. We all don't have alot of free time to watch/play everything we wanna watch/play.
You should always spoiler spoilers.
On another note, I have actually taken it a step further and actually haven't spoiled any at all of some games. What I mean, for example is when I got Final Fantasy X last year, I didn't even know it was a
turn based rpg. I figured it would be active since 4-9 were.
Just spoiler any at all things that could be a spoiler and be done. Don't ruin the killer or plot twist or gameplay feature or death of someone in a game/movie because there will always be someone who hasn't seen/played it and was going to in the future.
I know its well know, but even obvious spoilers like in Final Fantasy VII where
that person dies
I would never say spoilers 'ruin' something for me, but there are multiple scenes in games/books/movies/etc that just aren't the same if you already know what's going to happen.
That rush when you experience a plot twist you never saw coming, and wasn't spoiled obviously, can't be beaten.
That rush when you experience a plot twist you never saw coming, and wasn't spoiled obviously, can't be beaten.
Because I also like discussing culture with others.
Roger Danish
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But how would you know?
There's been some character deaths that have had me nearly jump out of my chair in shock. Other deaths that had been spoiled for me in advance did not produce the same effect. I prefer the former experience. But hey, maybe I'm just "completely ridiculous."
You Are Viewtiful
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The irony of this paragraph is that you just "spoiled" FFX for whoever didn't know it was a turn-based RPG
I don't know. I still enjoyed my spoilt media and never considered the spoiler that big of a deal after the fact. I guess you can't really tell.
BeautifulMemory
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We should just spoil OP from on if we ever hear anything from him about a show or movie he is looking forward to
I am of the full mind that the obsession with spoilers had devolved from merely sidestepping the rare earth shattering plot twist to a kind of fetish.
The reason why reasonable people are annoyed by spoiler fetishists is that we're the ones expected to change our behavior. I'm supposed to mark or spoiler that happened in an episode of Gilligan's Island just in case some weirdo is waiting for his 85th birthday to watch the entire series in one go.
The reason why reasonable people are annoyed by spoiler fetishists is that we're the ones expected to change our behavior. I'm supposed to mark or spoiler that happened in an episode of Gilligan's Island just in case some weirdo is waiting for his 85th birthday to watch the entire series in one go.
dead souls
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Agreed. I've never intentionally spoiled anyone, and do my best to obey the spoiler rules on every forum I post at, but at some point it seems like some people want every post discussing any media (regardless of when it came out) to look like this: The
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That's just an awful way to try and have a conversation.
edit: And I agree with the post you just made above me while I was typing this up as well.
KO Traveling Hobo
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So you have to type
twice. Boo hoo.
Highlight paragraph. Read paragraph. Fucking done.
How about not reading ABOUT THE SUBJECT YOU'RE AFRAID TO LEARN ABOUT if you don't want spoilers?
KO Traveling Hobo
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Because if I'm in a thread and I post Gilligan dies at the end of Gilligan's Island you're going to read it before you even realize what I'm talking about.
oneils
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Yeah, there should definitely be a time limit on this stuff. Should we, like, put spoiler tags up when discussing Romeo and Juliet?
SCULLIBUNDO
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Erm, look at what texts are being studied for the results. Fuck that study.
Nose Master
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The experience of the twist is robbed from you. There's a pretty big difference between the tension and buildup to a surprising plot twist, and just reading "_____ dies." It's like someone forcing you to read the wikipedia summary of a book, instead of letting you read it yourself.
Vermillion
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You must tell me. Who is The Bat?
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An important piece of a story is an important piece of the story.
It ain't fucking difficult.
Why open a book and flip ten chapters ahead?
Why fast forward to 3/4 of the way through a movie?
Plot is plot is plot is plot. It's important to narrative. The element of surprise. The person who wrote the novel or directed the film wanted the experience to play out to the reader or viewer in that specific way. If you're not interested in plot, find something else to occupy yourself with.
Somebody jumping in and saying, "yeah this shit happens..." is counter-productive to the narrative, and likewise an insult to the creator and the audience.
So the black bars on GAF threads? Keep 'em.
And fuck you.
It ain't fucking difficult.
Why open a book and flip ten chapters ahead?
Why fast forward to 3/4 of the way through a movie?
Plot is plot is plot is plot. It's important to narrative. The element of surprise. The person who wrote the novel or directed the film wanted the experience to play out to the reader or viewer in that specific way. If you're not interested in plot, find something else to occupy yourself with.
Somebody jumping in and saying, "yeah this shit happens..." is counter-productive to the narrative, and likewise an insult to the creator and the audience.
So the black bars on GAF threads? Keep 'em.
And fuck you.
Backlogs.
You remember that O.T. thread the other day? A guy asking for TV shows like BSG? People probably listed like 5-10 over 3 years old, some of which he probably never heard of.
I think he picked Lost as a contender. Season 1 is 8 years old. The series is a 121 episode ~90 hour investment. There's spoilers left and right.
How assholic would it be if people started posting random spoilers? Very.
You can't do anything about gifs and pictures in random threads but there's no reason to say the major plot spoilers in a random thread. And if you're in a conversation with someone and want to reference Lost it takes a few seconds to ask "have you seen it?" or "do you care if I spoil it?"
Oh, and they might be in the middle of watching it this very week.
So do I. If I really get into a show I tend to look ahead and see if it's worth the time investment. If anything if I read something cool I want to see how they pull it off.
kruis
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Those are probably the same people who want movie trailers to spell out the entrire plot for them.
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So you enjoy something to the point where you're too impatient to see how it plays out? For better or for worse? You don't enjoy the element of surprise or discovery?
That's the biggest crock of shit I've heard in a while.
Like a spoiler statute of limitations. Sounds good to me.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Always been a big deal. Think about watching the Sixth Sense after been told the ending. The movie is only really good the first time.
Yes that's fine but I'm more talking about someone who comes into a current season TV show thread and then complains there are spoilers from previous seasons. Of course there is, we're discussing the show after an airing. I stay out of a thread until I've watched the latest episode, people who haven't seen the show at all should stick to the first page or stay out altogether. Spoiling for the sake of it in an unrelated thread is a dick move I have no argument there. But if you haven't seen Movie A or TV Show B or played Game C then don't complain when there are spoilers 20 pages into the thread.
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Why have we become so lazy that we're letting the internet tell us the synopsis of stories?
God fuckin forbid we actually have to sit down for 90 minutes or a few days to finish a film or book or television season by ourselves.
"Nope I just want everything told to me in a few sentences. "
God fuckin forbid we actually have to sit down for 90 minutes or a few days to finish a film or book or television season by ourselves.
"Nope I just want everything told to me in a few sentences. "
rohlfinator
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Spoilers completely ruin story-driven media for me because I start subconsciously focusing on trying to predict when the twist will happen, instead of enjoying the plot and character development in the moment. Irrational, I know, but I can't help it.
I agree that it gets kind of out of hand here on some things, like the aforementioned "podcast spoilers" or spoilers on a character in a fighting game.
On a similar note, people in the NSMB2 thread are spoiler tagging the end boss... of a Mario game.
I agree that it gets kind of out of hand here on some things, like the aforementioned "podcast spoilers" or spoilers on a character in a fighting game.
On a similar note, people in the NSMB2 thread are spoiler tagging the end boss... of a Mario game.
So my own opinion is a crock of shit? I never said I spoil for others, just myself. So please stfu.
-Pyromaniac-
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I think GAF kind of tanks it overboard but at the same time I can see a point for people not wanting to is anything. But yeah its extreme at times.
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So you're lazy then. Fine by me.
Starsunder
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It's a pretty polarizing thing really. Some people will fucking lose their shit if they are spoiled on any little thing they might have a passing interest in, be it movie, book, or TV show.
Then you have the other people who don't give a piss. Either they wanna know who dies, falls in love, what have you because they can't take the not knowing, or they're more of the "it's not the destination but the journey" type of person.
For my part, I'm somewhere in the middle. Depending on my level of interest I may or may not care about being spoiled. For instance, in the Avengers, I didn't give a fuck. I was in it for the action and seeing some of my favorite comic characters wreck shit. Prometheus on the other hand, I didn't wanna be spoiled on. Turns out it wasn't anything to worry about, story-wise, anyways.
TL,DR: It'll vary person to person whether they give a shit or not.
Then you have the other people who don't give a piss. Either they wanna know who dies, falls in love, what have you because they can't take the not knowing, or they're more of the "it's not the destination but the journey" type of person.
For my part, I'm somewhere in the middle. Depending on my level of interest I may or may not care about being spoiled. For instance, in the Avengers, I didn't give a fuck. I was in it for the action and seeing some of my favorite comic characters wreck shit. Prometheus on the other hand, I didn't wanna be spoiled on. Turns out it wasn't anything to worry about, story-wise, anyways.
TL,DR: It'll vary person to person whether they give a shit or not.
Ventilaator
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I really really really hate the "But it's old" excuse for spoiling stuff. There's so much media to consume in this world that it's very easy to skip things you would have been interested in, but just didn't get around to. Not being there day 1 doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to have a clean experience with it. Go look at the original publishing dates of the Song of Ice and Fire books. The "It's old" excuse dictates that you have every right to go to the TV show thread and tell everyone what happens in the next few seasons. Stupid.
The only spoilers that are okay are the ones that are a part of popular culture already and even people with no interest in the original source still know about. It was his sled, Bruce Willis was dead the whole time, etc.
But I do agree that people take bitching about spoilers way too far. Bitch about knowing who the boss is on chapter 6, not about the fact that there's a boss there at all.
The only spoilers that are okay are the ones that are a part of popular culture already and even people with no interest in the original source still know about. It was his sled, Bruce Willis was dead the whole time, etc.
But I do agree that people take bitching about spoilers way too far. Bitch about knowing who the boss is on chapter 6, not about the fact that there's a boss there at all.
When has that happened? And like I said they should be laughed out of the thread.
That's the equivalent of me entering the dark knight returns spoiler thread intentionally instead of the non spoiler OT before seeing the movie.
And your a condasinding person who can't respect other people's opinion's.
More times than I care to imagine and they usually are. I guess some people are curious to see opinions, but you just can't take that risk when everyone is going to be talking about the current episode/movie in detail without spoiler tags. My rule is if its in public and I haven't seen it I don't click on the thread. And to this day the only major spoiler I've had was the first big reveal in Bioshock (spoiled by 4Chan which I no longer visit).
Unspeakable Evil
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OMG Guiz I just saw TDKR and the most amazing in it happens. Its super cool. *Spoilers* In this movie Batman...
....is Bruce Wayne
....is Bruce Wayne
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Indeed.
But apparently not for some people.
It's such an apathetic attitude that it makes me wonder why they even read novels or watch films or experience any sort of artistic media in the first place.
If one does not care about the end result, why bother with it in the first place? Go fly a kite or something.
Well you have to separate the crazy from the sane.
KO Traveling Hobo
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This is unfair. People like things for different reasons. What's important is that both sides respect each other.
Evolution_1ne
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Jesus dies....and then comes back and sends team of highly trained Angels ninjas to fight dinosaurs and demons in the great battle of Noah's Ark.......and they win
come at me GAF
come at me GAF
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And I think for the most part, we do. Black bars everywhere on GAF, and I appreciate that.
It's the ones who consciously choose to spoil something, either for themselves or others, that I can't wrap my head around. That's my argument in all of this, I suppose.
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