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Why are people no longer having sex in Japan?

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hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
I think a big part of the problem is 1) they have engineered a plethora of sex/intimacy substitutes and 2) there is no deep-rooted puritanism in their culture instilling sexual shame and preventing most people from getting too deep into these synthetic sexual experiences.

Of course the invention of these substitutes could easily be a result of their human intimacy problems rather than a cause. That question can be answered by comparing the tech innovation timeline with the diminishing intimacy timeline.
 
they ain't cheap
but.. pillows are cheep dude
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Riposte

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It seems more reasonable the restrictions placed on women combined with the country's work culture is having more of an effect than the weird shit you run into in Akihabara and such.
 
Japanese men are often called 'herbivores' (I resent that, I'm a vegetarian and I get plenty ;p) and often it is not hard to see why. Plenty of my Japanese friends just don't know how to talk to girls. Some show no interest whatsoever, and not just otaku who are more interested in fictional characters, but otherwise normal members of society. I have a female American friend who gets off on this though. She thinks Western men are too easy and fancies a challenge :p
 
It seems more reasonable the restrictions placed on women combined with the country's work culture is having more of an effect than the weird shit you run into in Akihabara and such.
As much as people want to go "lol waifu loli pedo", this seems infinitely more influential as it effects many more people with different hobbies across a larger age range.
 
Sounds like it has less to do with an aversion to intimacy/sex/relationships and more to do with messed up social norms & attitudes when it comes to gender roles and Japanese work culture.

Giving Japan uncensored porn, virile white men, or sex benefits won't actually tackle the problem at hand - the culture.
 
Japanese men are often called 'herbivores' (I resent that, I'm a vegetarian and I get plenty ;p) and often it is not hard to see why. Plenty of my Japanese friends just don't know how to talk to girls. Some show no interest whatsoever, and not just otaku who are more interested in fictional characters, but otherwise normal members of society. I have a female American friend who gets off on this though. She thinks Western men are too easy and fancies a challenge :p
I think i want to learn japanese but i feel its far too late for me, how easily did your american friend learn?
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
It seems more reasonable the restrictions placed on women combined with the country's work culture is having more of an effect than the weird shit you run into in Akihabara and such.
You're right, but maybe the way manchild behavior is seemingly nurtured in Japan, maybe it makes it a lot easier for women to not bother and focus on a career instead.
 
I think i want to learn japanese but i feel its far too late for me, how easily did your american friend learn?
She's a fucking genius who went to college at like 16 and learned there, then lived in Japan for 4 years.

I've lived here 2 years total and my Japanese sucks. Still, if you just want to help remedy Japan's sex problem, you don't need to learn Japanese. There are plenty of gaijinphiles who will want you just because you are exotic and speak English :p
 

entremet

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People are missing the crux of the article lol.

It has to do with lack of work accommodations for young mothers. That's the big thing killing procreation rates.

The work culture is stuck in 50s, while woman don't want to compromise their freedom and depend solely on a man, who may ignore them working more long hours.

It's a work culture issue. Not an issue due to porn or hentai.
 
Sounds like it has less to do with an aversion to intimacy/sex/relationships and more to do with messed up social norms & attitudes when it comes to gender roles and Japanese work culture.

Boom goes the dynamite.

It's really interesting if you watch a lot of anime and look at their society because there is rarely if ever any sort of straying from the norm as relates to sexual identity or how sex and such is viewed. And by that I mean how the media is portraying it or wants people to feel or see sex as.

Just think of the last time you had a character in an anime want sex of some sort that didn't involved having a child. It almost always involves some sort of want of a family or child. Really odd to see it happen in almost every character no matter their personality otherwise. Things like marriage, children, shit like that...it becomes really noticeable after a while.
 
You're right, but maybe the way manchild behavior is seemingly nurtured in Japan, maybe it makes it a lot easier for women to not bother and focus on a career instead.
I think we're shown that side too much due to the gaming side
I think the manchild thing is like their my little pony shit but a little more widespread
 
In One Piece and Bleach the main character don't even like girls.

I don't read/watch One Piece but Ichigo doesn't seem like someone that dislikes girls. Naruto is surprinsily straight and pervy for being so clueless about female anatomy (he didn't seem to know what pregnancy was)

I don't know what to say about Japan situation, being able to reproduce like bunnies is one of our strongest survival skills, that got us through war and disease. Maybe is the thick male/female bushes? Unless they find it appealling.
 

params7

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People are missing the crux of the article lol.

It has to do with lack of work accommodations for young mothers. That's the big thing killing procreation rates.

The work culture is stuck in 50s, while woman don't want to compromise their freedom and depend solely on a man, who may ignore them working more long hours.

It's a work culture issue. Not an issue due to porn or hentai.

I was just about to post something similar to this. Porn fetishes are a result, not cause. They have some issues to fix in their work culture.
 

RedSwirl

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I was just about to post something similar to this. Porn fetishes are a result, not cause. They have some issues to fix in their work culture.

A lot of people are probably just making joke posts and not actually reading the article.

At the very end one of the male interviewees even gives a quote basically saying that while he still finds women attractive, he doesn't think he can afford to deal with all the trappings of relationships/marriage/children. This was touched on in the Vice thread on the same issue, but it seems to be a result of outdated aspects of the culture clashing with modern economic realities. You're starting to see it happen in slow motion in western countries too -- young men putting off marriage and children because they can't find a good job.

From there, I'm wondering how long this might persist until the work culture begins to change. Aren't a lot of the leaders over there really old? I feel like it'd take at least another generation for this to shake out. It's almost like an accelerated version of what young Americans are about to go through as the Baby Boomers retire.
 

crozier

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Japanese porn is pretty awful with the shrieking and what-not, but it's not like Westerners' fantasies are much different. I remember one dude bragging about how he "flipped (this) bitches uterus" and sent her to the hospital. Men don't feel like men unless their penises can do irreparable harm.
 
I think we're shown that side too much due to the gaming side
I think the manchild thing is like their my little pony shit but a little more widespread

Pretty much. Weird rumours that spread online don't really make for a realistic image of Japan. There are a lot of things contributing to the low sex rates in Japan, but I honestly don't think "men being man-children who only like body pillows and anime robot waifus that don't smell" is a factor. These people are really ostracised by the general public. There are herbivore men, but it's not really the same thing.

Japan has a really messed up work system. Mothers simply can't work the 14+ hour days, five days a week that are required of them. It's not healthy for anyone really, married or not.
 
Are Japanese girls interested in white boys? Or is that pretty taboo in Japan? I've heard their culture is pretty xenophobic concerning certain things and was just wondering if that applied to dating as well.
 
Aoyama cites one man in his early 30s, a virgin, who can't get sexually aroused unless he watches female robots on a game similar to Power Rangers.

This... might be kind of understandable...

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Is it a symptom or a cause though?

Is it the emergence of sexy robots and anime characters that seduced humans away from other humans?

Or is it cultural issues (like marriage killing your career if you are a woman) that are the original cause, and sexy robots and anime characters were created to fill the void?
 
With the advent of birth control, you know what straight people are resembling more and more? Gay people.

As a side note, the pill was only legalised in Japan in 1999. It's still not very popular because there was a lot of misinformation published about the dangers of taking it.
 

Tokubetsu

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This... might be kind of understandable...

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Is it a symptom or a cause though?

Is it the emergence of sexy robots and anime characters that seduced humans away from other humans?

Or is it cultural issues (like marriage killing your career if you are a woman) that are the original cause, and sexy robots and anime characters were created to fill the void?

IT's a symptom of gender roles shifting. Men no longer being the sole bread winner and women no longer being the only one child rearing. Everyone's trying to re-discover their role in the world. Throw economic shifts on top of that and you basically have an entire generation "lost."
 
Japanese porn is pretty awful with the shrieking and what-not, but it's not like Westerners' fantasies are much different. I remember one dude bragging about how he "flipped (this) bitches uterus" and sent her to the hospital. Men don't feel like men unless their penises can do irreparable harm.

There are some weird things that creep into otherwise vanilla Western porn, like feet, or choking, or disgusting, almost scat-level ass play. I don't think you'll find much of an argument though that Japanese porn is one of the most bizarre there is. I don't know that they've ever done a pterodactyl gangbang though. That shit takes the cake for me.
 
I think there was some japanese porn where some girl was getting fucked by the kanye west dropout bear
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It actually might not be japanese and im just misremembering thou
 
Not enough mention of the Vice documentary. It's very relevant to this issue.

The commodificatoin of every aspect of a sexual and intimate relationships has been a big cause of the decline.
 
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