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Why are people suddenly against the 3DS now?

I love 3DS. Was just ready to see Pokemon on a new platform. Honestly the DS and 3DS era games just blend together for me since 3DS is backwards compatible. Very excited about the Atlus titles though, particularly Deep Strange Journey getting a US release.
 
From my point of view the problem is not that Nintendo and partners continue to support 3ds, but the fact that the Switch gets the short stick and a lot of game are 3ds exclusives. And it is made worse by the fact that the whole concept of Switch points in theory towards "unified Nintendo platform" while in practice is still the same "we have 2 systems with 2 different libraries" at least until 2018 sometime.

Plus 240p in 2017 is almost painfully outdated. We already saw what Nintendo is able to do with more, why go back to less?
 
Personally despite the great catalogue of exclusive games I've never found any version of 3DS comfortable to hold (I guess I have larger than average hands).

Also the sooner we get away from 240p screens in 2017 the better. It's very difficult to go back to that kind of image quality and graphical fidelity after using Switch or even Vita imo.

I'm all in favour of Nintendo putting every major 3DS exclusive on Switch and just upping the resolution as part of some sort of VC even if it means halfing the screen for the touch controls.
 
Well, I think for most people the perception is that not only is the 3DS old hardware, it's reached the limit on what it can do. 3D sure isn't a draw anymore. Then you're comparing that to a hot new product that hasn't been put to its limit yet.
 
The 2DS pretty much nullified the need for 3D in the 3DS. So 2D games would serve best on the more powerful platform capable of running them. Building a stronger library is another benefit. So no issue with the 3DS itself, just seems like a wasted opportunity.
 
How come so many of you seem to believe everyone here loved the 3DS until Switch came out and fucked it all up?
I own 3 3DSes. I like the 3DS. For one reason. It's got good games.
Everything else about the 3DS fucking sucks and I've pretty much felt that way since 2011. I've been consistent about it, too.

I'm giddy that the 3DS has been replaced, even moreso that it's been replaced by the most cutting-edge handheld that Nintendo has ever put out.

I'm not surprised that the 3DS is continuing to get more games, but I've moved on from the hardware - Fire Emblem Echoes will be the last game I play on my 3DS. After that, I'm not going to touch it until it's time to forward my Pokedex into the next generation.
 
Just port it and run it at a native 720p on handheld.

Emulators have PROVEN that the resolution bump makes an incredible difference.

240p guys. That is what we have on 3ds. It's blurry and pathetic when it released in 2011, it's just downright EMBARRASSING in 2017.
 
Seik said:
I love the 3DS, it was a great portable console.

But now? It's kind of making its stay too long for some, including me, because the Switch offers quite a better IQ and feels more comfortable in-hand than a 3DS.

However, it is understandable that the installed base is massive, so it's not now that we'll see a mass exodus towards the Switch, it wouldn't make sense business-wise.
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That's the reason. You can't expect Nintendo to suddenly abandon a product that is still selling reasonably well, because it just doesn't make sense businness wise. I agree its ran its course, but unless it becomes a Vita overnight they're going to stick with it until a solidified Switch user base is there and unified development can truly start ( which is something already in the works, of course, but these things, they take time)
 
Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Nintendo device culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is on 3DS where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over on Switch, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the Nintendo device public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Pokémon games for either system, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.

Nintendo, publicly apologize and cancel Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon for 3DS or you can kiss your business goodbye.
 
It has overstayed it's welcome. I really don't wanna play 240p games in 2017.

I'm even fine with 480p, if they're gonna go with that as the minimum for a new handheld.
 
Because it’s a 6+ year old handheld with absolutely outdated hardware. 240p in 2017 is a fucking joke.

The Switch is just an overall superior product in every possible way, so why not put out more games for the better/flagship system?
 
Currygan said:
That's the reason. You can't expect Nintendo to suddenly abandon a product that is still selling reasonably well, because it just doesn't make sense businness wise. I agree its ran its course, but unless it becomes a Vita overnight they're going to stick with it until a solidified Switch user base is there
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That is why cross-gen games exist.
 
I'm currently running through pokemon yellow vc again. No hate here. Welll maybe a little because this damn safari zone is trying my patience.
 
Because people want games for the new hotness, also the faster Nintendo can start moving everything to the Switch the better.

Granted, I don't own a Switch and don't plan to for awhile (still have a Wii U and 3DS backlog to work through) but Nintendo can't ignore the 3DS, its still their biggest install base atm given how quick they were to sever the Wii U like some gangrenous limb and how Switch's are hard to find right now.

Pulling this completely from my ass, but I would guess the 3DS still has a couple of solid years of support left for it.
 
I'm not a fan of the 3DS hardware, particularly the screens, while the Switch more than addresses my concerns. So yeah, if Nintendo releases a game tomorrow, I'll prefer it on Switch 100 times out of 100.

I'd also like to not have to choose which handheld I'm taking with me, by concentrating new releases.
 
It is pre E3 and Nintendo really hasn't brought out the big guns for it for the fall lineup like companies recently have with 3DS.

No pokemon on switch has people riled up for sure though.
 
People are thirsty for ANY games on the Switch and they are jealous of the titles still being given to it's aged sibling. People aren't willing to admit that the reason they are so desperate for scraps is that the Switch library isn't that great.
 
I never wanted a 3DS. I bought one because it had games I wanted to play, but I was never jazzed about the hardware. The Switch, however, instantly appealed to me. I don't blame Nintendo for supporting the 3DS still, but doing so doesn't do anything for me.
 
Salt about wanting more switch games mostly. It's pretty irrational, odds are the 3DS games coming out are not eating into any of the Switch games being made.

The games will come.
 
Lil Marco said:
The PS3 must be over 120 years old then by that logic.
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yeah gen lifespan is way more flexible now. but 3DS is more or less a portable ps2 with stereoscopic 3D and better textures. expecting robust support past 2018 is a stretch. especially when it's (arguable) successor is in high demand
 
Desperate Switch owners. Eh. It should have more games on it, but it's like, if you have one now, then you probably made the conscious choice to buy it with like five games available at launch, very few on the immediate horizon, and Nintendo's terrible track record as far as accruing support from third-parties. It's one thing to make your bed, but buying a launch Switch was like building it from scratch.

So wait it out or sell it. The constant portbegging is annoying. I'm looking forward to a few games on 3DS and also getting a Switch - when the time is right.
 
Frost Walrus said:
Well, I think for most people the perception is that not only is the 3DS old hardware, it's reached the limit on what it can do. 3D sure isn't a draw anymore.
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When Resident Evil: Revelations still looks better than the entire library, it really isn't.

It's actually the weird part I don't understand about Nintendo handhelds. You want more games on a handheld, 3DS is perfect for that. It's the last remnant of the PS2/Wii era where budgets were sustainable.

Switch going HD only means more expensive games that still can't keep up with PS4/XBO visuals. So you get less games and less impressive graphics.
 
Huge Succeeded said:
How come so many of you seem to believe everyone here loved the 3DS until Switch came out and fucked it all up?


I own 3 3DSes. I like the 3DS. For one reason. It's got good games.

Everything else about the 3DS fucking sucks and I've pretty much felt that way since 2011. I've been consistent about it, too.
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yeah the 3DS as a piece of hardware is pretty meh across the board

although I was pretty wowed back in 2011 at the thought of glasses free 3D and it delivered I just stop caring about it pretty quickly and then I was wowed again with 3D Land where the 3D actually factored into the level design and then I stopped caring again and continued to stop caring. the New 3DS almost made me care again because the face tracking works really well but that 240p screen ruins it. I knew the Switch was probably going to drop 3D but it would have been pretty cool to see glasses free 3D with face tracking on an HD display.
 
I imagine it's hard to do cross gen with 3DS and Switch because of the massive difference in specs. I'm no expert, but wouldn't it involve releasing a Switch game that looked like shit. Unless the developers designed their 3DS game specifically to be ported up to higher resolutions.

I know people have posted these HD Pokemon images, but what would actually be involved with getting a 3DS game running on Switch and not having it look awful?
 
It was a bummer to deal with the screen and the circle pad solution back then, especially compared to the Vita, which had a great screen and very comfy twin analog sticks.

Now it's been like 6 years and we have an incredible new Nintendo handheld, fixes all issues I had with the 3DS. I'd rather play all these announced 3DS games like USUM and Kirby on Switch.
 
gaiadyne said:
People are thirsty for ANY games on the Switch and they are jealous of the titles still being given to it's aged sibling. People aren't willing to admit that the reason they are so desperate for scraps is that the Switch library isn't that great.
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That's a pretty crappy take on things. For a lot of us, we just want more games to play on this console we just bought. It's like this for every new console release. Anyway, it's been three months since the Switch released. Its library isn't shabby at all when you consider that.
 
Squire said:
Desperate Switch owners. Eh. It should have more games on it, but it's like, if you have one now, then you probably made the conscious choice to buy it with like five games available at launch, very few on the immediate horizon, and Nintendo's terrible track record as far as accruing support from third-parties. It's one thing to make your bed, but buying a launch Switch was like building it from scratch.

So wait it out or sell it. The constant portbegging is annoying. I'm looking forward to a few games on 3DS and also getting a Switch - when the time is right.
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As a Switch owner I'm not desperate and have had consoles post launch played far less than Switch. I just don't want to play Nintendo games on a relatively less comfortable handheld any longer.
 
I love my 3DS -- the clamshell design is great, protecting the screen and giving you a second screen display. I have Vita and a Switch, and I'll have no problem continuing to game on my 3DS as long as they make games for it.

Switch is a great portable to take to a party or event, but the 3DS is the perfect personal portable for me.
 
The major reasons for people complaining about 3DS exclusives in 2017 are:

-It's the oldest platform that major releases are still coming out for, and on top of that was honestly kinda bad by the standards of when it came out. The Switch is in many ways a bigger step up from the 3DS than any generational transition before it, so obviously Switch owners would much rather play their games on the Switch than the 3DS.

-The Switch has no backwards compatibility, which is a first for a Nintendo portable, so a game being 3DS exclusive today is much more of a pain in the ass than a game being DS exclusive released in the first year or two of the 3DS' life, or a game being GBA exclusive in the first year or two of the DS' life.

-The PS4/XBOne generation established a pattern that when the next generation of consoles released most developers would immediately transition to that next generation with a year or two of cross-gen titles in-between. Outside of niche Japanese franchises like Atelier, just about every game released after 2013 was either exclusively for the current generation or cross-gen with the previous generation. Put simply, by modern standards it's fucking weird for a game made after a new generation launches to not be either cross-gen or outright exclusive to the new generation.
 
gaiadyne said:
People are thirsty for ANY games on the Switch and they are jealous of the titles still being given to it's aged sibling. People aren't willing to admit that the reason they are so desperate for scraps is that the Switch library isn't that great.
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Well yeah what did you expect? Its only been out for 3 months.

The only way the library will get better? If theres more games for it, which is exactly why people arent happy games are getting announced for 3DS but not Switch.
 
I bought the thing years ago. Never bought any revision of the model, just the original release. I have zero interest in the thing, let alone purchasing a new model of the same hardware.
I got a lot of playtime out of the thing though. It's just done for me.
I no longer care to invest any more money into hardware that is no longer appealing to me, even if some of the new software may seem interesting.
 
No one is *suddenly* against the 3DS. It's just an old system now, anything that can be done on it has been. Nintendo has new and exciting hardware out and people want to see them leverage it, so any continued support of the 3DS is going to just seem like a wasted opportunity

It's not that people hate the 3DS now, it's just that it's old. It's no different than if a game was to be released exclusively on the PS3.
 
I stopped playing Zelda MM on my XL because it just looked like ass. I just can't to back to that low Res screen. It hurts my soul.
 
I started being "against" the 3DS maybe 2 years ago. I still play it, and enjoy my time with it, but damn, that hardware is ancient technology at this point. Many 3DS games have performance issues, do not have 3D, or have sub-par controls due to the limited input methods available on a 3DS. I'd just rather play these games on something more modern - don't really care if it's the Switch or another new handheld that Nintendo probably isn't making.
 
Kthulhu said:
So Nintendo has the resources to bring Fire Emblem Warriors to the 3DS and Switch, but not Pokemon? I would understand if it's a technical reason, but knowing​ Gamefreak it's probably them just lagging behind as usual.
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Maybe they are working on a brand new title for the switch which is still a few years out.
 
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