1. who has a switch 3 months after launch and doesn't have a 3ds?
2. where is all this "nah people don't REALLY dislike the 3ds" sentiment coming from?
count me in on the couldn't-stand-3ds-since-launch train
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Why are people suddenly against the 3DS now?
- Thread starter Jubenhimer
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1. who has a switch 3 months after launch and doesn't have a 3ds?
2. where is all this "nah people don't REALLY dislike the 3ds" sentiment coming from?
count me in on the couldn't-stand-3ds-since-launch train
James Scott
Banned
3DS was well supported through its 6 year+ life cycle.
In a lot of aspects it's less capable than the GameCube and despite not being someone that cares too much about resolution, it's hard to deal with the 3DS's after this much time.
As an owner of all of Nintendo's systems I don't benefit from them continuing to make 3DS games when they can go all in on Switch.
That's not to say I'm upset at something like Pokémon Ultra being on 3DS.
I understand that it makes sense to keep supporting 3DS especially after S&M's killer launch. Just hope it's not 2.5 years till Pokémon Switch like Gamefreak did with 3DS.
A scenario that might be easier to understand:
Imagine if Persona 5 was PS3 only.
Imagine if BoTW was Wii U only.
In a lot of aspects it's less capable than the GameCube and despite not being someone that cares too much about resolution, it's hard to deal with the 3DS's after this much time.
As an owner of all of Nintendo's systems I don't benefit from them continuing to make 3DS games when they can go all in on Switch.
That's not to say I'm upset at something like Pokémon Ultra being on 3DS.
I understand that it makes sense to keep supporting 3DS especially after S&M's killer launch. Just hope it's not 2.5 years till Pokémon Switch like Gamefreak did with 3DS.
A scenario that might be easier to understand:
Imagine if Persona 5 was PS3 only.
Imagine if BoTW was Wii U only.
Honestly I just got a 3DS so I'm all for new stuff, but I completely understand why people would be eager to get over it. It's frankly a piece of junk in terms of specs (that screen!) but man, what a library it has accrued.
Anyway, yeah, wanting to move on to a 720p screen in freaking 2017 is a position I can certainly understand.
Anyway, yeah, wanting to move on to a 720p screen in freaking 2017 is a position I can certainly understand.
Switch owners on ever site i've encountered have been incredibly annoying. Yeah dude they gonna just drop a console that's been selling incredibly well with a new revision coming just because. Sure i think multi version ports could have been planned out better for both systems but it is what it is.
Ehh...
GuessMyUserName
Member
Sure I don't. (missing from the picture, my OG launch 3DS, and the Japanese DBFusion n3DS I bought last September)
would they though? Atlus is still re-releasing DS games as their only major games
I know you probably don't mean it like this, but like, didn't we just have that huge-ass Direct where all of those indie games were announced only for the Switch? It's not like you guys aren't getting anything at all for the next year or something.
Jubenhimer
Member
I can understand the complaints that people want to move on from what is, archaic hardware by today's standards. So I get the desire to move on to the Switch quickly. But here's the thing, the Switch is $300, while the cheapest 3DS out right now is just $80. Plus the 3DS is nearing 70 million units already. It make no business sense to just screw over that many people, as well as gamers and or parents on a budget by giving them the finger and telling them to pony up $300 for the new Nintendo system. There needs to be a low cost alternative to ease people in, and that's where the 3DS comes into play. Nintendo is going to keep the 3DS around as a budget option, so that they can ease people into the Nintendo ecosystem, only when Nintendo feels the Switch has fully established itself will they discontinue the 3DS.
So while I can understand why some may want to move on to arguably, a much better and more premium product, it'd be anti-consumer to abruptly cut support for a near 70 million user base and force them on to the Switch.
So while I can understand why some may want to move on to arguably, a much better and more premium product, it'd be anti-consumer to abruptly cut support for a near 70 million user base and force them on to the Switch.
bobbychalkers
Member
I've bought 2.
Solid SOAP
Member
People wanna get use out of their nee toy, breh.
The Switch ain't doing too bad for itself rn, tbh. 1st party support is great and the indies ain't slouching. Happy I grabbed one
The Switch ain't doing too bad for itself rn, tbh. 1st party support is great and the indies ain't slouching. Happy I grabbed one
This is true for me. Though I did play on my siblings for stuff like Kid Icarus and Monster Hunter. Speaking of MH, I'm glad it's already being port to Switch as I hate playing it on the 3DS. Device itself was the problem not the games.
I understand preferring games come to Switch, I don't really "get," the perspective of "I won't buy games unless they come out on Switch," unless you no longer own a 3DS. Is a 240p screen really that hard to go back to for some people? It's just so surprising to me as someone who can go back to just about any platform from any generation and feel fine.
Theres six years of content for those people. If they want a Pokemon game they have three sets of games to choose from already, it's not screwing them over to call it a day at this point.
You haven't paid attention. And thus you understood exactly nothing. You should be more annoyed at yourself.
The point is not to drop the 3ds, just to release the games on both, not so damn many 3ds exclusives.
James Scott
Banned
If i really want a game and it's only coming to 3DS I'd buy it. Right now, 3DS's line up is actually not that strong. I'd be more inclined to buy...say Ever Oasis on Switch, but if it's excellent I'd still get it on 3DS. I can probably leave everything else.
AdropOFvenom
Neo Member
Most people have covered it....
- The hardware sucks. It wasn't really powerful enough when it came out in the first place and it's now 6 years old. We all know consoles lifespan is about that 5-6 year range so its basically at it's expiration date, not to mention it's 6 years old at a time where smartphone tech has advanced at an insanely rapid pace and there's been several generational leaps in terms of power.
- There doesn't appear to be any 3DS replacement in sight, and why would there be when there is the Switch? I mean, if you sat down on a drawing board and came up with what you wanted from a 3DS replacement (As much power as you can cram into a portable device, maybe some ability to play it on the big screen TV, etc) well, you just described the Switch. I do think there will be a smaller revision of the Switch at some point to better cater to that handheld market, but that's just an extra addition to the Switch product line, not a new console generation.
- It's gimmick in 3D feels like a relic from a bygone era where everyone in tech (namely TV sellers) thought 3D was the next big thing, and that's a fad that never really took off. Most people I know don't even use it. Nintendo was probably wise to drop it in it's latest revision of the 3DS, err, 2DS.
- People have gotten a taste of the Switch, and frankly, it's a gamechanger.
- For Nintendo to succeed with longer development timetables for their games (kind of inevitable in the HD era), they need to unify their product lines once and for all. The Wii U failed because (among other reasons) it took them too long to get compelling titles to the market and people don't want the Switch to suffer the same fate. And lets be honest, there's only so long they can hold people over with Wii U ports. Combining your product lines means you have the Pokemon and other handheld entries bridging the gaps in your release cycle. More games, faster.
That said, my issue is not with the 3DS continuing to get games. GF is smart to cater to the large 3DS install base, nobody is disputing that, It's that those games are not getting Switch ports when it becomes a problem, especially something where emulators have proven there are already a lot of HD assets there for them already. It seems like they've already done the majority of the work for a Switch port, they just haven't quite pulled the trigger yet.
- The hardware sucks. It wasn't really powerful enough when it came out in the first place and it's now 6 years old. We all know consoles lifespan is about that 5-6 year range so its basically at it's expiration date, not to mention it's 6 years old at a time where smartphone tech has advanced at an insanely rapid pace and there's been several generational leaps in terms of power.
- There doesn't appear to be any 3DS replacement in sight, and why would there be when there is the Switch? I mean, if you sat down on a drawing board and came up with what you wanted from a 3DS replacement (As much power as you can cram into a portable device, maybe some ability to play it on the big screen TV, etc) well, you just described the Switch. I do think there will be a smaller revision of the Switch at some point to better cater to that handheld market, but that's just an extra addition to the Switch product line, not a new console generation.
- It's gimmick in 3D feels like a relic from a bygone era where everyone in tech (namely TV sellers) thought 3D was the next big thing, and that's a fad that never really took off. Most people I know don't even use it. Nintendo was probably wise to drop it in it's latest revision of the 3DS, err, 2DS.
- People have gotten a taste of the Switch, and frankly, it's a gamechanger.
- For Nintendo to succeed with longer development timetables for their games (kind of inevitable in the HD era), they need to unify their product lines once and for all. The Wii U failed because (among other reasons) it took them too long to get compelling titles to the market and people don't want the Switch to suffer the same fate. And lets be honest, there's only so long they can hold people over with Wii U ports. Combining your product lines means you have the Pokemon and other handheld entries bridging the gaps in your release cycle. More games, faster.
That said, my issue is not with the 3DS continuing to get games. GF is smart to cater to the large 3DS install base, nobody is disputing that, It's that those games are not getting Switch ports when it becomes a problem, especially something where emulators have proven there are already a lot of HD assets there for them already. It seems like they've already done the majority of the work for a Switch port, they just haven't quite pulled the trigger yet.
TRUE ORDER
Member
3ds's greatest problem is it's resolution IMO.
Some games don't look very good.
Some games don't look very good.
"Nintendo doesn't support hardware passed 4-5 years, no point in buying their consoles since they stop supporting them so early."
*Nintendo produces quality content for more than 4-5 years on said console*
"Omg wtf Nintendo, what a joke, Nintendoom for sure. Lol, Switch is an overpowered glorified handheld anyway. Good luck Nintendo!"
*Nintendo produces quality content for more than 4-5 years on said console*
"Omg wtf Nintendo, what a joke, Nintendoom for sure. Lol, Switch is an overpowered glorified handheld anyway. Good luck Nintendo!"
Well you're gonna have to just deal with nintendo's strategy and beg for 3ds exclusives on eve3ry single thread and shit it up per usual.
I don't mind Nintendo keep supporting 3ds.
I just want them to release those major titles simultaneously on Switch.
Minsc
Gold Member
The screen of the 3DS is really poor even resolution aside... the games are great, but let's not pretend the hardware isn't crap (and not just the chips inside). Switch's screen quality is about as big a leap forward in IQ as the hardware is between the two systems tech wise.
privitsan02
Member
People want upcoming Nintendo games on their new Nintendo machine, it's not that hard to understand.
The main issue here is that those games won't be playable on the Switch. Sure this was an issue with the PS4 at launch as well since it couldn't play GT6 but the majority of PS3 titles were cross-generational and every previous generations had backwards compatibility at launch.
There's no reason why the Pokemon games couldn't be ported to the Switch. Nintendo are publishing it so even if Game Freak turned it down, they could've had another team port it over.
All hypothesis' aside, I can understand the anger/upset/confusion over why 3DS is getting relatively big Nintendo games that the Switch isn't.
Best wishes.
The main issue here is that those games won't be playable on the Switch. Sure this was an issue with the PS4 at launch as well since it couldn't play GT6 but the majority of PS3 titles were cross-generational and every previous generations had backwards compatibility at launch.
There's no reason why the Pokemon games couldn't be ported to the Switch. Nintendo are publishing it so even if Game Freak turned it down, they could've had another team port it over.
All hypothesis' aside, I can understand the anger/upset/confusion over why 3DS is getting relatively big Nintendo games that the Switch isn't.
Best wishes.
I see it as the "Jay-Z" dilemma with rappers.
"Old guys been eatin long enough, let the new guys have a sandwitch."
Seriously, I don't mind. I just wish Switch got a port of Strange Journey at least. Is it cheaper to develop for 3DS due to sub HD? Could that (and user base) be why they're holding out?
"Old guys been eatin long enough, let the new guys have a sandwitch."
Seriously, I don't mind. I just wish Switch got a port of Strange Journey at least. Is it cheaper to develop for 3DS due to sub HD? Could that (and user base) be why they're holding out?
Other than Pokemon, even before the Switch, I never liked playing 3DS games, as they really were hard to look at, and I'm not exactly a dude pressed over graphics. But yea, there's white a few gems I haven't bothered with as a result of the poor hardware.
To be honest, this really pissed me off during the Wii U days...and a little bit now. I'm primarily a console gamer (my NS is almost 100% docked), and seeing so much support for the 3DS and not the Wii U (and currently the NS) is frustrating. Nothing wrong with that system, but resources are limited and them spending dev dollars on 3DS games didn't help the Wii U or the NS. They obviously can't support two platforms without one of them getting the short end of the stick so I hope they put more money in the console side. With the NS being able to be played in handheld mode, there's no real excuse for games to not be on both the 3DS and the NS.
Yes, I will follow your example from this thread.
kunonabi
Member
Switch owners are the new vita owners so they throw a fit at any release that skips the switch. All these years of people bitching at Nintendo for cancelling support for their platforms prematurely and now that nintendo actually does they still cant win. Im ecstatic at the support since i love the 3ds and it suits my portable needs much better than the switch does at the moment.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
You're not paying attention either. There's plenty of "Kill 3DS" posts.
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
Yet you originally said "next year". Keep moving those goalposts lol.
The hardware seems fine to me. The screen quality is serviceable, the analog nub works for the kinds of games that release on the platform, I've never gotten handcramps with any of the XL/LL variations. Visually the games look fine, on-par with gen 6 games in a lot of ways and that's always been the sweet spot for me in terms of where I stopped caring about improvements in visuals, and even then it's not all that much different from going back and fourth between a PS4 game and a Gamecube game which I do all the time.
If you feel this way that's fine, it's just hard for me to "get," as someone who's always been completely fine with the 3DS. It's like a perspective completely opposite of my own experience.
I've had a Switch since launch and going back between the two platforms feels fine.
If I had to choose to play miitopia on the 3DS or Switch I would choose the 3DS because it has a camera and I can scan QR codes in. Switch doesn't have this feature.
Maybe they want to start fresh on the platform. How much work would it take to get the unfinished online infrastructure on the switch integrated with a brand new pokemon game? What about Pokemon Bank? This stuff takes time and money and they probably want to take it slow and get it right instead of hastily porting existing games to an online infrastructure that might not even be sufficient in its current state.
James Scott
Banned
Dont think anyone has said the first thing.
paragonpro
Banned
Ok heres the difference, i enjoy indie games and respect the work those guys do, but indie games arent pokemon, pikmin, kirby, or yoshis wooly world. Yeah they can make a game like it, but on a nintendo system that brand matters.
Which wouldn't happen so often if a lot of games wouldn't be 3ds exclusives. Because if you read beyond the "kill it already" part, it actually resumes to what is discussed in this thread.
PSFan
Member
I've had no issues going back to 3DS after finishing Zelda on Switch. The screen is fine. I finished DQ VIII and am now going back and forth between the two Yo-Kai Watch 2 games and enjoying it immensely.
Seems to me that many Switch owners are feeling a little buyer's remorse for getting it so soon. Perhaps they sold their other gaming devices in order to buy the Switch are now feeling a little foolish for doing so with all the great games for the 3DS coming out.
Seems to me that many Switch owners are feeling a little buyer's remorse for getting it so soon. Perhaps they sold their other gaming devices in order to buy the Switch are now feeling a little foolish for doing so with all the great games for the 3DS coming out.
MindCollizion
Member
Honestly it's a mixture of it already being identified as the topic of discussion within this thread and my lack of enthusiasm towards it's continued support. Throw in my personal stance on redundancies and the Nintendo 3DS became "thing".
I love my 3DS, and will never get rid of it. It has a fantastic library and the glasses-free 3D effect is really cool. That said, I still think the new Pokemon titles should have also come out on Switch. After all, it has a much better screen, is way more powerful and it's new. The latter may be a silly thing, but since it's a shiny new gadget I'd rather use mine than my 3DS for now (of course, I'll gladly come back to it in the future to continue the Ace Attorney saga and many other games I've yet to play or finish).
Besides, gen 7 hasn't made any good use of the 3D effect or touch screen (if at all), which are the two main features of the 3DS. At this point, there's nothing to be missed in a Switch port of UltraSun and UltraMoon (as opposed to gen 6, which had the excellent PSS and DexNav features).
Besides, gen 7 hasn't made any good use of the 3D effect or touch screen (if at all), which are the two main features of the 3DS. At this point, there's nothing to be missed in a Switch port of UltraSun and UltraMoon (as opposed to gen 6, which had the excellent PSS and DexNav features).
Can't wait to play those mainline Nintendo games with shitty touch controls, and an even worse battery gaming wise than the Switch. I can't also wait to dock my phone to my TV and connect 4 wireless controllers on it to play Smash or Mario Kart.
Pretty much took all of the words out of my mouth!
install base =/= current players
don't get me wrong. the thing's performed miraculous for dedicated handheld in the mobile era and there's still gas in the tank but it's not like there's a shortage of available software and $300 is more or less in the neighborhood of what most people paid for a 3DS
GBA didn't even make it up to four years and it was incredibly successful
I'd be cool with it if they were 3DS + Switch multi platform. This is coming from someone who owns and still regularly plays a 3DS. I'd just like more reasons to boot up my superior Switch, even if that reason is cross gen ports.
I don't much care for Ultra Sun/Moon but damn I woulda been on that in a flash if it was on Switch too.
I don't much care for Ultra Sun/Moon but damn I woulda been on that in a flash if it was on Switch too.
Chopper Dave
Member
I bought a N3DSXL mostly to play Monster Hunter but also the wealth of quality games for it. I only bought Monster Hunter 4U and Generations and have no plans to buy anything else going forward. I don't really like portable gaming but 3DS hardware makes an unpreferable experience into a more unpleasant one. The low res screen and uncomfortable controls were clear problems well before switch was revealed.
I'm not going to complain all that much though. The 3DS games mentioned in the OP are scraps. Pokemon can fuck off for a little longer. A Switch game will come eventually.
I'm not going to complain all that much though. The 3DS games mentioned in the OP are scraps. Pokemon can fuck off for a little longer. A Switch game will come eventually.
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