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[MoonFrog]

3DS is, atm, my main gaming device; been working on my 3DS/DS back-catalog. I'm extremely happy EO5 localization was announced. If I played Pokemon "third" entries I'd be fine playing that on 3DS.

But...I really want to see Switch pick up the 3DS legacy. That is its most likely source of 3rd party support and there is always the threat of it going mobile or disappearing as third parties consider targeting the lucrative PS4 user base rather than targeting the Japanese domestic market and a less vibrant portion of the western market. My greatest fear for Switch is Japan betting against it and choices of 3DS over Switch are going to feed into that fear.

 

[Raven117]

I love my 3DS.

But I want all focus of Nintendo to be on Switch and developing games for it. The formula for the Switch is a winner....If they can focus all they got on it...we are goign to get some great stuff for it.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Part of Switch's appeal and shtick with being a hybrid is that it's suppose to enable a scenario where Nintendo can focus its efforts and resources into one platform. No more watching them let one side go through droughts while they focus on the other, and vice versa.

Having one platform that provides, console experiences like BotW and MK8D *along* with cheaper, handheld sized, experimental b-tier stuff should be amazing.

3DS is getting in the way of this by overstaying its welcome. I love it, but I'm hoping by 2018, it'll be a full fledged legacy system.

 

[PSFan]

Buyers remorse? Really? There is nothing wrong with wanting more games on the new hardware you just bought. This is true for damn any console in existence. You think PS4 owners wanted more games released exclusively on the PS3? What about Xbox One owners not wanting more games exclusively on the 360? I have no buyers remorse. I own a bunch of games for the NS and play the thing every day. I want more games to come out so I can continue to do so. There's nothing wrong with this. More games that support the way I like to play, please!

PS4 owners and XB1 owners didn't take the begging to the extremes that Switch owners are. And like someone else already said, wait until those games that support the way you like to play come out before buying the hardware.

The entire point of the Switch is to get all Nintendo games on one system

People want that to start sooner rather than later

Again, don't buy the hardware until Nintendo does start to release their games on one system. For all you know, Nintendo could still announce a 3DS successor next year, and then you'll really feel foolish.

 

[Shaanyboi]

I'm just so tired of the screen. When I'm home (which is the only place I play my 3DS), I want to play on my TV unless I want to play something for like 30 minutes in bed.

 

[Muffin Awesome]

Screen resolution.

I continue to use it, I've owned three of them but for me it's screen resolution, has been since day one

If it had been say...480p, I'd have never complained but 240p, which is sub PSP with frequently more detailed 3D visuals just makes for a very unappealing image, IMO.

But in the end, if it's what I have to deal with for the games then that's that. I just hope to put it behind us before too much longer.

Alex you are my doppelgänger in this regard. Holy poop I love the 3ds library and all the games, but man that resolution is too brutal to ignore in comparison to EVERYFUCKTHING else in the market... that is my problem at least is when having multiple handheld devices to come back to the 3ds and then murder my eyesight on the low quality screen is infuriating.

 

[James Scott]

Why? Hardware is still selling. Software, eshop, themes, etc. Probably brings in 30x switch revenue on an off day.

I imagine that of the announced Switch first party titles they'd all sell over a million. At least on average. The only one on 3DS I'd see doing that is Pokémon. Can't imaging they're still making a ton of themes and eShop sales now a days.

 

[MisterHero]

People just want full Pokemon on a modern console.

20+ years is a long ass wait

 

[LotusHD]

PS4 owners and XB1 owners didn't take the begging to the extremes that Switch owners are.

While there's clearly no way to prove that, to be fair, it's an unprecedented situation in which there is a hybrid console available that can play it all while still retaining portability. So it's not really that surprising that the thirstiness is cranked up a notch.

 

[MikeE21286]

Because we don’t want to have to be toggling between a ton of devices.

 

[Salaadin]

I loved my 3DS but its time to move on. Its small screen, poor graphics, and bad form factor were all things I dealt with because I had to. It had games on it that I wanted so I played them on it.

The Switch is obviously an improvement in every way and thats the place where I want to play these games. I dont even care if they give us ports with literally no upgrades...just release them for the Switch too. Seeing franchises I love like Kirby and Pokemon get 3DS stuff months after I bought the Switch makes me feel shitty and kind of makes me wonder how far ahead Nintendo planned. Luckily, theyre killing it this year with the game lineup so those concerns will be washed away relatively quickly....but that doesnt mean I dont want those other franchises to be released too.

Im probably skipping Pokemon Ultra now because of "vote with your wallet" and all that.

 

[Alchemy]

I'd rather just see them pour all their resources into the Switch at this point. Wrap up whatever 3DS stuff they have going on, get the 2DS XL out there and just let it coast until its done and by that time the Switch should be in full swing as Nintendos portable and console solution this gen.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

I can understand the complaints that people want to move on from what is, archaic hardware by today's standards. So I get the desire to move on to the Switch quickly. But here's the thing, the Switch is $300, while the cheapest 3DS out right now is just $80. Plus the 3DS is nearing 70 million units already. It make no business sense to just screw over that many people, as well as gamers and or parents on a budget by giving them the finger and telling them to pony up $300 for the new Nintendo system. There needs to be a low cost alternative to ease people in, and that's where the 3DS comes into play. Nintendo is going to keep the 3DS around as a budget option, so that they can ease people into the Nintendo ecosystem, only when Nintendo feels the Switch has fully established itself will they discontinue the 3DS.

So while I can understand why some may want to move on to arguably, a much better and more premium product, it'd be anti-consumer to abruptly cut support for a near 70 million user base and force them on to the Switch.

I really don't have an issue with 3DS getting support for a little while longer as long as those games come to Switch as well. That's why people are up in arms about Pokemon.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

If you owned a Switch, you'd understand. No one wants to game on that screen, with that analogue nub after using the Switch.

Now if we could just get a Switch in the size of the 3DS we'd have the best of both worlds.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

PS4 owners and XB1 owners didn't take the begging to the extremes that Switch owners are.

I say this as Sony fan, but the "Nintendo should go 3rd party " comments are a constant theme, so not sure how you're gauging all the port begging comments.

 

[truestatic]

Because I bought a switch and I want to give Nintendo 50% more money for all handheld games going forward.

 

[DR2K]

It's not that difficult to understand as it seems at first sight. Let me make it simpler for you. The core gameplay being the same (Nintendo games), good visuals are better than poor visuals. Makes sense? If you add also improved gameplay due to less limitation of the device it will blow your mind.

It's not difficult, you're right, it's just flat out hypocritical. That's it. Continue port begging in all the 3DS announcements threads, I'm sure there's many more games to come.

 

[EDarkness]

PS4 owners and XB1 owners didn't take the begging to the extremes that Switch owners are. And like someone else already said, wait until those games that support the way you like to play come out before buying the hardware.

I still don't understand that reasoning when there are games I want to play on the system now. I bought an Atari Jaguar to play Doom and NBA Jam and was happy with that. I buy systems to play games I want to play and more games that come out is just icing on the cake. Again, there's nothing wrong with wanting MORE to play even though you're totally satisfied with what you have.

Still, Xbox One and PS4 owners didn't have to do much "begging" for stuff because damn everything comes out for both. Why would they be asking for stuff? This can't be said about someone who buys Nintendo hardware. On top of that, a lot of people want to be able to play their favorite games on the go and the NS allows for that. If people don't speak up, then no one would know people wanted those games to be released on the platform. There's nothing wrong with this.

Again, don't buy the hardware until Nintendo does start to release their games on one system. For all you know, Nintendo could still announce a 3DS successor next year, and then you'll really feel foolish.

Wouldn't bother me and honestly, it should be expected. Doesn't change the fact that people want to play games on the NS. What I want to know is if all everyone did was wait for 100% of the games they want to be released before they buy the system, then why are they gaming in the first place? No matter what system you own (even PC) there will always be games you want to play on that platform. PC gamers have been asking for games to be ported to that platform for years as well. No idea how many times someone has asked if Bayonetta was going to be ported. They finally got their wish. Should they have avoided playing games on the PC until that game was announced and released?

 

[RionaaM]

It's not that difficult to understand as it seems at first sight. Let me make it simpler for you. The core gameplay being the same (Nintendo games), good visuals are better than poor visuals. Makes sense? If you add also improved gameplay due to less limitation of the device it will blow your mind.

Please stop it, you're making far too much sense in this thread!

Honestly, i see nothing wrong with still getting 3ds games. It makes the system lasts for people who cannot afford a Switch, andit is likely that those games were planned ages ago, not just to annoy Switch fans.

The pokémon Game would probably not have benefited from a Switch port, not with an enhanced version of Moon and Sun. You would have got a slightly better-looking version of a 3ds game, with no major upgrade.

Imo thereis no "instead".Games coming on 3DS do not weaken Switch. I understand however that people want more games on Switch. But games planned for 3ds were probably planned long ago before the official announcments.

Funnily enough, I think the same in the opposite way. The new games don't benefit at all from staying on 3DS because they probably won't use any of the console's main features (touch screen and 3D effect), which makes a Switch port a great idea, as it wouldn't be compromised in any way. As I said before in this thread, everything about gen 7 looks like it was made with the Switch in mind, so it's baffling that Game Freak decided to make the 3rd versions exclusive to the good ol' 3DS.

 

[outunderthestars]

People aren't against the system. It's the fact that after playing on what really is a handheld capable device that outputs a brilliantly sharp 720p image, they don't want to go back to a 240p screen. Switch is also a lot more comfortable to hold for most people.

This right here. I thought the 3DS was an awful system (from a hardware perspective) six years ago and today is just unacceptable. I would like to see Nintendo move on from the platform and fully support the Switch.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Because the Switch is really really good.

 

[James Scott]

Now if we could just get a Switch in the size of the 3DS we'd have the best of both worlds.

Without the joy con the Switch is barely larger than the XL in clam shell. 3DS is already big enough that you can really Pocket it in most cases and putting it in bag/back pack would result in the same thing on Switch.

It's not difficult, you're right, it's just flat out hypocritical. That's it. Continue port begging in all the 3DS announcements threads, I'm sure there's many more games to come.

It's not really hypocritical. Graphics not being the most important thing does not mean that better performance and resolution wouldn't be preferred in the same setting. Switch also had more buttons and a better analog stick so inputs are improved as well.
You also get more options (TV play)

 

[James Scott]

Sorry, double post

 

[entremet]

It's one of Nintendo most poorly designed handhelds. This after the sleek DSLite and up lines, which were pure sex from an industrial design point of view.

The first iteration was atrocious. The XL (1st gen) looked toyish. The New 3DSes improved some but the screens were still asymmetrical and the analog nub was flat out garbage. Why not just add another circle pad like that weird add-on?

Going back from the Switch is very hard to do.

 

[Immaculate]

This is why you dont buy any console within the first year

Literally every time a 3DS game gets announced (yes even here) theres always people mad that there's no switch version

Stop buying game consoles within the first year when theres like only 2 games worth playing

 

[James Scott]

This is why you dont buy any console within the first year

Literally every time a game gets announced (yes even here) theres always people made there's no switch version

Stop buying game consoles within the first year

Again, Switch's line up is actually really really good. It's not people begging for something to play because there isn't any

 

[DragonGirl]

I'm not against the 3DS, just portables in general. I've never liked playing on a small screen and have never found portable systems comfortable to hold. Switch means the system can get portable games, but I can play them on my TV, thus, I am gung-ho for the Switch getting all the games. At the very least, I'd like to see 3DS ports to the Switch.

 

[forrest]

240p vs 720p

Cross platform is fine if the Switch is the primary platform for development imo.

 

[EDarkness]

This is why you dont buy any console within the first year

Literally every time a 3DS game gets announced (yes even here) theres always people mad that there's no switch version

Stop buying game consoles within the first year when theres like only 2 games worth playing

I still don't understand why people can't want more games to play on the system they bought. They already have games, but want more games....

 

[Quonny]

I've always been against the 3DS. System cramps my hands after like 10 minutes of play.

Switch actually feels good.

 

[darkside31337]

It's one of Nintendo most poorly designed handhelds. This after the sleek DSLite and up lines, which were pure sex from an industrial design point of view.

The first iteration was atrocious. The XL (1st gen) looked toyish. The New 3DSes improved some but the screens were still asymmetrical and the analog nub was flat out garbage. Why not just add another circle pad like that weird add-on?

Going back from the Switch is very hard to do.

I honestly feel the complete opposite. I love the 3D on the n3DS... wish the Switch had it, and the 3DS has a pretty solid dpad while the Switch has the worst "dpad" I've ever used in my life.

 

[Squire]

As a Switch owner I'm not desperate and have had consoles post launch played far less than Switch. I just don't want to play Nintendo games on a relatively less comfortable handheld any longer.

Then don't play them. If you don't do or feel what's in my post it doesn't apply to you, but those folks are very much out there.

 

[gardfish]

Zero problem with Nintendo continuing to support the 3DS, tbh. I'm not buying a Switch for a while even if it was possible to find one, and while my backlog of 3DS games I want to play is HUGE--not even including the DS backlog--I appreciate having new games to look forward to as well.

Look, the 3DS will die eventually and that's fine. But until the Switch grows into its own a bit, I don't see why Nintendo has to drop everything and abandon the 3DS and its playerbase entirely. It's not like the remaining first-party 3DS games that we know about are exactly top-caliber titles, either--do Switch owners REALLY want to play Hey! Pikmin or Miitopia that badly?

I'll grant you that it's pretty dumb that Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon aren't cross-platform, though, especially now that Monster Hunter XX proved that it's possible.

 

[CazTGG]

The low resolution for the screen that no doubt was the result of the gimmicky 3D that all of one game (Kid Icarus Uprising) justified the use of, coupled with the less than sleek design of the original. While by no means a bad console, it is Nintendo's worst handheld console (Virtual Boy doesn't count) and incredibly difficult to return to after getting a Nintendo Switch. Also, having a capture card modded onto my 3DS to get footage for reviews only makes the system even less comfortable to hold than the likes of the Vita.

 

[mindatlarge]

As an owner of both the 3DS and Switch, I'd like to see the two coexist as I do love both systems. Though I will say, some titles that are planned to be released exclusively on 3DS, I'd much rather see them on the Switch where they could be further developed and enhanced. I also love having the option of playing on a monitor as well.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

I've been switching between a lot of platforms lately: high end PC, all the way down back to my OG 3DS. I haven't had a lot of trouble dealing with the lower end graphics or resolution.

My only complaint about the 3DS is how uncomfortable it is to hold. But I get used to it every time, so meh. Still flirting with the idea of getting the N2DSXL when it comes out.

 

[ryseing]

I actively despise playing on my 3DS. The screen is terrible and my OG model is uncomfortable to hold. Basic system functions like adjusting the wireless settings take far longer than they should.

Yet it's been the only place I can get my FE fix for the past four years so I've dealt. Now that there's a better option on the market nothing would make me happier than the remaining 3DS games that I'm interested in being ported over.

 

[TheMink]

Because I bought a Switch and I feel like an idiot using my 3DS, hardware I've never liked, while a new console sits unused in front of me.

Additionally Capcom is dealing cross platform MH in like 2 months so it really seems like something Nintendo should embrace.

I actively despise playing on my 3DS. The screen is terrible and my OG model is uncomfortable to hold. Basic system functions like adjusting the wireless settings take far longer than they should.

Yet it's been the only place I can get my FE fix for the past four years so I've dealt. Now that there's a better option on the market nothing would make me happier than the remaining 3DS games that I'm interested in being ported over.

Could not agree more.

People believe the switch is nintendo's new handheld, when in fact it's nintendo's new home console with a handheld feature. The 3DS is still nintendo's main handheld device and will continue to get new / nintendo handheld games until a next generation DS / gameboy comes out.

I've said this a lot and I'll continue to say it.

It would quite possibly be the stupidest decision Nintendo has ever made if they release another dedicated mobile console not affiliated with the Switch.

For the same reason that people don't want to use the 3DS because they have a Switch now, YOU HAVE A SWITCH NOW. I would riot if Nintendo said it wasn't going to release games for the current system that will be on an upcoming system. Even though there is no reason for that to happen.

This narrative that people are wrong to believe that the Switch isn't actually a mobile system and another one is coming shows a complete lack of understanding.

Have you ever herd the expression "the customer is always right?" The reason this expression exists is because it's so counter intuitive to tell the customer they don't actually know what they want.

Here we have an overwhelming amount of people using the Switch as a completely dedicated mobile console (I for one have never even plugged it into my TV) and yet I'm missiformed somehow? I'm using the product wrong?
So then Nintendo is going to release ANOTHER handheld console and so I and others like me are supposed to see that this new console is actually the one I'm supposed to play mobile?

I'm thoroughly confused by the logic behind this thought process. It must come exclusively from people who don't have a Switch and want to spend $90 dollars on a 3DS+ that I guess is marginally better than a 3DS but worse than a Switch.

Just what is the point.

 

[Astral Dog]

Masculine insecurity

 

[metalslimer]

The shit resolution would be my biggest issue. And why wouldn't people want more games to take advantage of their new platform. Of course for Nintendo it makes complete sense to not do that when the Switch is selling out regardless and it's not like they are starting a new gen on 3DS

 

[theclaw135]

What more does one want to know? Dull launch lineup, unreliable 3D viewing angle, eshop wasn't ready yet, iffy ergonomics, announced the very same month as the DSi XL debut in most countries and a dramatic screen-size downgrade from it to boot.

The old 3DS is by all measures a fiery cannonball of a flop.

 

[RPGam3r]

Then don't play them. If you don't do or feel what's in my post it doesn't apply to you, but those folks are very much out there.

I'm still going to play them.

Your original post painted Switch owners with a broad brush, so I responded.

 

[spazchicken]

Have a 3DS, Vita and a Switch.

Would rather have all games on either Vita or Switch. The resolution of the 3DS is not making games look good imo.



Citra, the 3DS emulator, already shows how good 3ds games can look.

That's a crazy difference.

I would be pissed if I was an artist working on a 3DS title.

 

[Socreges]

This is the kind of problem BC usually deals with.

Switch is a special case though.

The argument many have I guess is that they see the 3DS as something that is cannibalizing Switch sales.

I personally don't care about the impact on Switch sales. I trust Nintendo will prioritize the Switch over the 3DS as/when needed.

For me I'd rather play on my Switch than my 3DS. Its obviously a nicer experience. So my preference would be any new games be developed for the Switch. That said, there hasn't been an announcement yet that has bothered me. So, good for the 3DS.

 

[balgajo]

I don't care about it releasing on 3ds. I just wanted a Switch upscaled port. I don't have a 3ds.

 

[Crayolan]

When you buy a new console you want games to be released for it.

A lot of gaffers also seem to have this mindset that when a successor releases, continuing to play games on the older console is unthinkable. I've seen a lot of people say they're "done" with the 3DS and refuse to buy new games for it. I mean, I'd prefer if new games are released for Switch too, but if a game I want to play releases on 3DS I'm not gonna deny myself playing it just to prove some weird point.

Same thing happened in the transition from PS360>PS4/XB1

 

[Jimm]

I love the 3DS. Great machine with some amazing games. Resolution is a bit low and impacts some games like MH. But there's still at least 2 dozen games I want for the console and I own about 60. 2018 is going to be a big last hurrah for the 3DS.

 

[Trojita]

Have a 3DS, Vita and a Switch.

Would rather have all games on either Vita or Switch. The resolution of the 3DS is not making games look good imo.

Citra, the 3DS emulator, already shows how good 3ds games can look.

lol

 

[Fireflu]

I literally just bought a 3DS (first "DS" iv'e bought since the DS Lite back in 2006) and now everywhere I go it's like a constant shit flinging parade.

I remember the huge buzz and hype the 3DS had for years with its great library of games, but ever since the Switch launched it feels like even the most fervent supporters of the 3DS have nothing but vitriol and disdain towards it. The resolution and hardware may be vastly inferior to the Switch but it's still a great little machine with a wealth of excellent games.

The majority of disdain seems to come from people assuming that the 3DS is taking away games from their shiny new Switch console. Nintendo never said they would cease 3DS support after the Switch launched but many people seem to think the Switch is a direct successor to the 3DS, echoing the PS3/360 to PS4/XB1 transition.

In reality due to the Switch' hybrid nature as a home console the 3DS can still comfortably exist alongside it and Nintendo obviously feels the same way (with the new 2DS coming out later in the year).

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

Without the joy con the Switch is barely larger than the XL in clam shell. 3DS is already big enough that you can really Pocket it in most cases and putting it in bag/back pack would result in the same thing on Switch.

Unfortunately my daily driver is the New Nintendo 3DS, which is smaller than the XL variations.