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[pakkit]

It's an attempt to get the retarded word banned, along with anything else that can be grossly offensive. Next on the list, midget.

It's an attempt to point out that GAF's female moderator goes on banning sprees when people say that women lack driving skills, and then turns around and calls people "retarded."

Because in the GAF-universe, playing along with stupid stereotypes is more ban-worthy then accusing people of real-life mental deficiency.

GAF can't decide if it wants to be the New Yorker or 4chan.

Both words have lost their original meaning.

Plenty of words have lost their meaning, that doesn't mean they're not loaded.

 

[lsslave]

It's an attempt to get the retarded word banned, along with anything else that can be grossly offensive. Next on the list, midget.

HEY NOW! If you guys make it bannable for me to go "Wassup my midget" I will protest the streets!

Besides, I like to call short people "Santa's helpers"

 

[Phobophile]

"Packet of fags"
I'm not your fag, mate.

 

[funkmastergeneral]

I like the term "Fruitcake" for my insults. I'm certain that the fruitcake community is very upset at me but you can't please everyone.

I'm partial to poof, myself

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

smh

What, is there a secondary meaning to that word that I'm not aware of?

 

[Rur0ni]

Both words have lost their original meaning.

Kinda like when you're playing CSS and you get awped through double doors on d2 and you're like... "That was gay... meh."

 

[usea]

I believe it's actually against the rules to insult another poster at all. Regardless of what words you use.

 

[Foxtastical]

You should stop caring. You'll feel better.

 

[bjork]

http://qkpic.com/1175e

Phobo knows the deal.

[edit - Jody too!]

 

[Like the hat?]

"Packet of fags"
I'm not your fag, mate.

You're a cigarette!

 

[btkadams]

What, is there a secondary meaning to that word that I'm not aware of?

fruitcake:
1. A derogatory term for a homosexual man.

2. Someone who is completely insane.

3. A cake made with bits of fruit and drenched in scotch.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

When I use retard I'm generally meaning someone is holding back themselves or their argument by taking a stance that hinders their argument.

I don't use the term to describe people.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

fruitcake:
1. A derogatory term for a homosexual man.

2. Someone who is completely insane.

3. A cake made with bits of fruit and drenched in scotch.

Are you fucking kidding me? Is that for real?

 

[industrian]

I'd never use the word "Faggot" or it's derivatives to describe something. Simply because it's a totally offensive word. Instead my kind of phrase would be something like "Depeche Mode's song 'Boys Say Go' is the gayest shit I've ever heard."

 

[btkadams]

Are you fucking kidding me? Is that for real?

did you seriously not know that's what it meant? that is what it means when someone calls someone a fruit or a fruitcake.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

did you seriously not know that's what it meant? that is what it means when someone calls someone a fruit or a fruitcake.

"Fruitcake" has always meant crazy for as long as I can remember. Since when have people been trying to turn it into something offensive for homosexuals? Do you have a source for that?

And more to the point, I think of it as a generic insult without specific meaning - I don't use it when someone is acting particularly nutty, it's a put-down like "cupcake."

 

[lsslave]

did you seriously not know that's what it meant? that is what it means when someone calls someone a fruit or a fruitcake.

Insane and gay? Well mister btkadams, I recommend you check your facebook wall!

 

[Barrett2]

Anyone know when the non-pejorative meaning/s of 'faggot' fell out of common usage in English in the US? I would assume its when the pejorative use entered common usage.

IIRC, I read an article on 'curse words' and etymology a few years ago. There are a lot of words with bland meanings in current usage which used to be very offensive. It was really interesting.

 

[Hitokage]

While I respect efforts to preserve the dignity of mentally disabled people, getting humans, an organism that depends on intelligence for both its survival and identity, to not stigmatize acts representative of disappointing levels of mental capacity is a non-starter.

 

[industrian]

"Fruitcake" has always meant crazy for as long as I can remember. Since when have people been trying to turn it into something offensive for homosexuals? Do you have a source for that?

Well the word "queer" originally means strange. Throughout the centuries in different cultures a lot of words and phrases meaning "strange", "crazy", etc got turned into offensive euphemisms for gay people.

 

[cwmartin]

"Fruitcake" has always meant crazy for as long as I can remember. Since when have people been trying to turn it into something offensive for homosexuals? Do you have a source for that?

I imagine that would be like sourcing when cool started to mean what it meant.

 

[btkadams]

"Fruitcake" has always meant crazy for as long as I can remember. Since when have people been trying to turn it into something offensive for homosexuals? Do you have a source for that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)

go ahead and do some reading on it if you like. to be honest, i've never even heard someone mean it as a crazy person, always as a derogatory term for homosexuals. you learn something new everyday!

 

[lsslave]

Anyone know when the non-pejorative meaning/s of 'faggot' fell out of common usage in English in the US? I would assume its when the pejorative use entered common usage.

IIRC, I read an article on 'curse words' and etymology a few years ago. There are a lot of words with bland meanings in current usage which used to be very offensive. It was really interesting.

It would largely be due to the fact that American slang is derived from multiple sources, you must remember that the largest reason why there are multiple accents and sociological norms in the US is because there are roots in French, Spanish, and English.

This mix of societies in the early days leading to the union of the country is largely a reason for the change in dialect from the Britain variation of English (which has changed a lot since that era, but carries a lot of nuances from its original form)

 

[Superman00]

"Fruitcake" has always meant crazy for as long as I can remember. Since when have people been trying to turn it into something offensive for homosexuals? Do you have a source for that?

:lol , your like a decade late man. Fruitcake has been use as another term for f*gg*t for a long time now. I just find fruitcake to have a much less harsh tone than f*gg*t.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

Well whatever "cupcake" is almost as good.

Unless that's also offensive to someone?

:lol , your like a decade late man. Fruitcake has been use as another term for f*gg*t for a long time now. I just find fruitcake to have a much less harsh tone than f*gg*t.

I've heard it used as an insult but never in a context that would lead me to conclude that what the person was saying was "you're gay."

 

[Replicant]

Kinda like when you're playing CSS and you get awped through double doors on d2 and you're like... "That was gay... meh."

You're playing with cascading style sheet?

And when I get frustrated I'd just say, "well, that was annoying/sucks". I never understand the need to associate the word 'gay' to describe an unpleasant experience.

 

[Calcaneus]

While I respect efforts to preserve the dignity of mentally disabled people, getting humans, an organism that depends on intelligence for both its survival and identity, to not stigmatize acts representative of disappointing levels of mental capacity is a non-starter.

Well there are definitely better words to use that carry out the same task.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Well the word "queer" originally means strange. Throughout the centuries in different cultures a lot of words and phrases meaning "strange", "crazy", etc got turned into offensive euphemisms for gay people.

Any other 70s/80s kids remember a book series called "Something Queer is Going On"?

 

[Chamber]

Well whatever "cupcake" is almost as good.

Unless that's also offensive to someone?

cupcake 75 up, 52 down love it hate it

when someone cups their hand over their ass when they fart and throw the now handheld fart in your face

I am offended.

 

[pakkit]

Anyone know when the non-pejorative meaning/s of 'faggot' fell out of common usage in English in the US? I would assume its when the pejorative use entered common usage.

Probably when lighting fires stopped becoming common practice.

The term as we know it today comes from that meaning anyway. It is insinuating that homosexuals deserve to be burned alive for their sins.

Most curse words stem from the original meaning.

But really, I.F., you should probably stop calling people fruitcake if you don't even know the meaning that it carries.

 

[MWS Natural]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)

go ahead and do some reading on it if you like. to be honest, i've never even heard someone mean it as a crazy person, always as a derogatory term for homosexuals. you learn something new everyday!

I've heard the phrase, "nutty as a fruitcake" used before by older people.

I'm partial to poof, myself

Heard this for the first time when watching RocnRolla...really got a kick out of it for a few days :lol

 

[shuri]

fruitcake is for idiot, its not an equivalent of faggot. What the fuck?

 

[Cyan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)

go ahead and do some reading on it if you like. to be honest, i've never even heard someone mean it as a crazy person, always as a derogatory term for homosexuals. you learn something new everyday!

"Nutty as a fruitcake." It's an older expression.

 

[xS1TH L0RDx]

Serious question here:

Isn't "fag" british slang for cigarette?

 

[pakkit]

"Nutty as a fruitcake." It's an older expression.

You're using it in idiomatic form now, though. When you call someone a "fruitcake," you're implying that they're homosexual.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

But really, I.F., you should probably stop calling people fruitcake if you don't even know the meaning that it carries.

Well, again, I've never heard it in a context that would imply homosexuality. I always assumed that the underlying insult was "crazy" but that even that lost its meaning. If anything I would have guessed it would mean something like "pussy" but less harsh. I thought I was using a really innocuous insult.

Obviously now I'll switch to something else because it's lost its point.

You're using it in idiomatic form now, though. When you call someone a "fruitcake," you're implying that they're homosexual.

Wikipedia says that both forms can imply crazy. Calling someone "fruitcake" is shorthand for "nutty as a fruitcake".

fruitcake is for idiot, its not an equivalent of faggot. What the fuck?

It's kind of bullshit that it's okay for many years and then suddenly it's not okay.

 

[D4Danger]

Serious question here:

Isn't "fag" british slang for cigarette?

sure is.

 

[forknknife]

:lol

 

[UraMallas]

We had one of these threads a couple of months ago and I'm in the camp that says "all or nothing." Either both should be fine (my preference) or neither should be fine (which I'd be fine with.)

Retarded also has a non-pejorative meaning in current use, faggot no longer has a current non-pejorative meaning in use.

You don't know what you're talking about. Used as a noun, they're both derogatory. If you call someone a retard, it's derogatory 100% of the time, especially when calling a mentally disabled person that. I'm not going to get into this debate again, but the only reason it's okay to use "retard" on here or "that's retarded" is because unlike the homosexual community, there isn't really any presence of mentally disabled people on this board and even if there were, they couldn't defend themselves against it... which almost makes it worse, in my eyes.

 

[industrian]

Any other 70s/80s kids remember a book series called "Something Queer is Going On"?

No, but the Flintstones had a gay old time.

 

[letsbereasonable]

You don't call retarded people retards. it's bad taste. You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded

 

[Mr.Potato Head]

Because people choose to be retarded but don't choose to be gay.

Well that doesent make much sense..what about the real retarded people on this earth? They surely didnt choose to be retarded...

 

[UraMallas]

Well that doesent make much sense..what about the real retarded people on this earth? They surely didnt choose to be retarded...

I think that was the joke. He's showing the hypocrisy in the stance.

 

[Aaron Strife]

No, but the Flintstones had a gay old time.

I think in new versions of that song they either change it to "grand old time" or just get deliberately quiet on "gay"

 

[Barrett2]

We had one of these threads a couple of months ago and I'm in the camp that says "all or nothing." Either both should be fine (my preference) or neither should be fine (which I'd be fine with.)


You don't know what you're talking about. Used as a noun, they're both derogatory. If you call someone a retard, it's derogatory 100% of the time, especially when calling a mentally disabled person that. I'm not going to get into this debate again, but the only reason it's okay to use "retard" on here or "that's retarded" is because unlike the homosexual community, there isn't really any presence of mentally disabled people on this board and even if there were, they couldn't defend themselves against it... which almost makes it worse, in my eyes.

Are you really that ignorant?

 

[Blackace]

Are you fucking kidding me? Is that for real?

??

Yes it is for real.. Been around for ages..

 

[Hitokage]

We had one of these threads a couple of months ago and I'm in the camp that says "all or nothing." Either both should be fine (my preference) or neither should be fine (which I'd be fine with.)

What about the act of giving "retard" special treatment while ignoring other terms?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation#Archaic_terms

 

[Speevy]

Because truthfully, even if a mentally disabled person posted on Neogaf and said he was offended by the word "retard", no one would care, whereas the forum distinguishes itself as one of the few gaming communities where saying you're gay is welcome.

I haven't posted on a great many message boards, and I can only think of a few that were downright hateful to people of a certain sexual orientation, but Neogaf is definitely the first one with a gay community that I can remember.

 

[Rur0ni]

Did you misquote? Or am I retarded?

 

[letsbereasonable]

Did you misquote? Or am I retarded?

Ha, I misquoted. I wasn't sure to quote the original quote or your response, and copy/pasted wrong.