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Why does EVERYONE mispronounce Mario in the UK?
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Super Mauro Ranallo.
Chill Penguin
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From what I've heard, it's Mah-rio when talking about someone Italian (Mario bros), but Marry-o when talking about someone French (Mario Lemieux).
Daffy Duck
Member
Are you telling me Americas best Dance Crew host Mario Lopez said his name wrong?
And also doesn't Mario himself even say itsa me Mario?
And also doesn't Mario himself even say itsa me Mario?
The real issue is how people in Portugal spell Tomb Raider. Tawmb Rider. (Or if you want SAMPA notation, tOmb Raj~d6r)
I had no idea about the Laura thing till this thread. How does that even happen.
Pure laziness in my books.
Lah-ra
She's English, that's how you say her name.
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Mario is Ma-rio - Ma in Japanese is like the Ma from Marry (not from the name Mary).
Officially however it's more like Malio with the li being a japanese ri which sounds more like li in English.
Z..
Member
Mais burro sou por perder um segundo que seja a tentar comunicar seja o que for aqui... atmosfera de soda cáustica, um gajo não aprende, porra. -.-'
Honey Bunny
Member
Also what's up with the entire American games press pronouncing Automata incorrectly? You don't say autoMAHton as well do you?
Er... most people I know during my time in this Green and Pleasant Land (which is far longer than 2 year I must add) pronounces it just like how Mario himself does during the boot up of Super Mario 64 for the Nintendo 64 Entertainment Unit.
If anyone is saying it wrong it's all the Yanks with their Maaaaaaaaarios and, since we're at it, Yooooooooooshis. Stop with the long vowels. (Seriously, Yoshi literally says its own name non-stop. How can you get this wrong?)
Having the never to try and teach and correct English, Welsh, Scots and Irishmen how to pronounce the Queen's English? Why I never.
OP should be hanged, drawn and quartered for this insolence.
If anyone is saying it wrong it's all the Yanks with their Maaaaaaaaarios and, since we're at it, Yooooooooooshis. Stop with the long vowels. (Seriously, Yoshi literally says its own name non-stop. How can you get this wrong?)
Having the never to try and teach and correct English, Welsh, Scots and Irishmen how to pronounce the Queen's English? Why I never.
OP should be hanged, drawn and quartered for this insolence.
AgentLampshade
Member
I actually say "aw-toe-mah-tah" too. It's more fun to say.
SEGAvangelist
Member
This. Plus the R is flipped and ree-oh is practically one syllable if you're going to be a stickler for the Italian language. Most everyone in the US and UK pronounces it wrong.
Z..
Member
The original word is latin, which I believe to be the version used in the title. Automahta is the correct enunciation if that is the case.
Jezbollah
Member
So, if my half means jack shit, how about the amount of times I've seen Italians call my Dad by his name. I guess you know better than them right?
I've been in Italy longer than you've been in England. In fact, I'd say I've been in Italy and around Italian people longer than you've known English as a language.
Back in your box.
The Albatross
Member
The name is Mario, like Mar-a-lago, or Veal Marsala, or the planet Mars, not like the name 'Mary.'
This isn't a problem for Japanese speakers either it seems. Is it really that difficult?
I guess the problem stems from the fact that English doesn't have proper, strict pronunciation rules.
Americans have this odd quirk where when confronted with a foreignish word they're not familiar with, they pronounce the vowels as you would the standalone letters if you were reading the alphabet.
Iraq becomes EYE-raq, Kratos becomes KrAYE-tOEHs, etc
AgentLampshade
Member
You cannot be serious with this one?
ChrisFatso
Neo Member
You are correct - we say Yoshi wrong here in the US, and you guys say Mario wrong in the UK. We should both change our ways and start pronouncing them correctly.
HarryKS
Member
That's a very North American quirk.
I am. I know that's how it's pronounced in the game, but he's named after a figure from Greek mythology whose name is pronounced Krarr-toss.
It's bizarre. 'Hat' isn't pronounced the same way as 'hate'. No one says poe-ssible or hoe-stile. But foreign words get mangled this way often.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
In South Philly its:
Mare-Ree-oh
Mare-Ree-oh
In Italian, and in Charles Martinet's voice acting:
['ma rio]
Brits tend to pronounce it approximately as:
['mæ ɹioʊ]
(but this almost sounds like ['mɛ ɹioʊ] to Americans)
Americans tend to pronounce it approximately it as:
['mɒ ɹi oʊ] (often with r-color in the first vowel)
(but this almost sounds like ['mɔ ɹi oʊ] to Brits)
Essentially, the pronunciation of your own dialect affects the way you hear words. It's difficult for us to distinguish specific sounds that are not quite found in our own dialect, so we approximate.
As such, Yoshi sounds like ['joʊ ʃi] to me, but apparently like ['jɔ shi] to MDave.
['ma rio]
Brits tend to pronounce it approximately as:
['mæ ɹioʊ]
(but this almost sounds like ['mɛ ɹioʊ] to Americans)
Americans tend to pronounce it approximately it as:
['mɒ ɹi oʊ] (often with r-color in the first vowel)
(but this almost sounds like ['mɔ ɹi oʊ] to Brits)
Essentially, the pronunciation of your own dialect affects the way you hear words. It's difficult for us to distinguish specific sounds that are not quite found in our own dialect, so we approximate.
As such, Yoshi sounds like ['joʊ ʃi] to me, but apparently like ['jɔ shi] to MDave.
Since we're sticking the boot in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs5H7cgcpkg
AmaterasuOkami076
Member
Marry-o as in carry-o.
The thing is is that in England we pronounce the "a" in carry and marry differently to those in the US. So it's not particularly relevant.
The thing is is that in England we pronounce the "a" in carry and marry differently to those in the US. So it's not particularly relevant.
Silent Hill
Banned
Why does EVERYONE mispronounce Lara in the U.S?
Honey Bunny
Member
Every pronunciation guide online has it as aw-tom-uh-tuh, identical to automaton.
This is not correct: https://youtu.be/8ffrz7usz6Y?t=3s
This is correct: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/automata
Get with it, games press!
One that always stuck with me was the way the guy pronounced Mario in this old Dominos commercial.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Brits will start taking pronunciation lessons from our American chums when you guys stop saying 'I could care less'. Deal? Great.
cryptosporidium
Member
I believe my buddies from manchester or something and his fam says merio
fuckin heathens
fuckin heathens
Z..
Member
Your input is as anecdotal as mine. Back up your claim with some substance and I'll concede you may be right. Like I said, it may be regional! I'll refrain from further engaging in pointless back and forth and turn this matter into something simple, irrefutable evidence:
Example #1
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Example #10
I can go on but you get the point. Do notice that I deliberately chose 10 different people so as to diversify as much as possible. You can also see that you have videos originating from different regions withing Italy. But somehow I'm wrong. I didn't even have to cherry pick, I literally didn't come across a single instance of the pronunciations you are claiming to the be true ones.
Every single one of these examples is backing up my side of the story. Do enlighten me by showing me some examples of this fabled alternate pronunciation with a hard R since my claim is so clearly fraudulent.
Although I confess I'm not expecting much from someone who's dragging their age into the discussion as it it was in any way relevant.
The cherry on top being that someone who is upholding his maturity as a beacon for superiority would use an expression as infantile as "back in your box".
I think not only does everyone say it differently in general, but I think we interpret (hear) sounds differently as well. I.e. I speak English and Khmer fluently, and speak Spanish and Japanese conversationally and have noticed that for those of us who only speak one language, there are sounds that they either can't say or can't even hear.
With sole English speakers, I've noticed this in particular with dipthongs, where the consonants fall in between two consonants, like the p and b dipthong, or t and d dipthong.
With sole English speakers, I've noticed this in particular with dipthongs, where the consonants fall in between two consonants, like the p and b dipthong, or t and d dipthong.
boyshine
Member
No. Nononono. Nooooo.
KormaChameleon
Member
Maa-Rii-O
I can't tell what you're objecting to, but I'll assume it's that I hear the sound from that clip and conclude that it sounds like the word "war." Again, I'll repeat myself:
MAMA MIA!!! MARIO WITH THAT TOPE SUICIDA!!!
This is what I was trying to get at. We hear it differently, therefore we pronounce it differently as well.
If you're multi-lingual, you can actually hear the nuances between the pronunciations which is what causes this debate.