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Why does the T1000 acknowledge the mannequin?

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Cause it is a fun movie.

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VisceralBowl said:
I have been watching these movies for a long time now, and all I have to say is "how do you know what is really canon?" Canon does NOT matter when you have alternate timelines and time travel. Everything is canon, just because something is not canon in one timeline does not mean it is in another.
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Eh.

It's as much canon as Star Tours is Star Wars canon.
 
Joni said:
Terminator canon should be T1 -> T2 -> TTSCC.
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What the fuck is the bolded?

That shitty show on Fox a few years back?

Canon, imo, is the opening to T1 to the highway at night to close T2.

Essentially, everything that the creator of the franchise intended.
 
Can anyone explain how Skynet sent back the stuff we saw in Sarah Connor Chronicles? I think I watched at least ten episodes, and it didn't make much sense to me...
 
Ugh, that scene ruins the movie. I hate when levity is used to juxtapose what is serious business and things that are dark and brooding, like alternate endings.
 
SpoonyBard said:
Can anyone explain how Skynet sent back the stuff we saw in Sarah Connor Chronicles? I think I watched at least ten episodes, and it didn't make much sense to me...
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Skynet is meant to happen in that continuity and you can only postpone it. As such they destroyed the original Skynet, but a new one happened. Although in this timeline a competitor of Skynet also exists, the one Catherine Weaver and John Henry work for. I suppose the third season was going to explain all that.
 
mac said:
Ugh, that scene ruins the movie. I hate when levity is used to juxtapose what is serious business and things that are dark and brooding, like alternate endings.
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It was alright. But I am with you most times, levity can ruin movies. Like the credit card scene in Batman and Robin. Not that the rest of the flick is any good, but this was eye rollingly bad.
 
mac said:
Ugh, that scene ruins the movie. I hate when levity is used to juxtapose what is serious business and things that are dark and brooding, like alternate endings.
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It's hilarious to say that the OP's scene "ruins the movie".

"Movie was going great but then the T-1000 looked at a shiny mannequin and I mentally checked out of the movie at that point. I was done."

Good grief at GAF's hyperbole.
 
This thread is why movies now are horrible. They can't leave anything slightly ambiguous with every nerd over thinking every goddamn thing so they feel the need to explain everything and it makes it stupid.
 
I Wanna Be The Guy said:
Your theory might have been correct if not for one thing. Terminator 3 extablished Skynet was not destroyed in 2029 as Kyle Reese thought. In T3 it was established that the war with Skynet was still going on in 2032. It's very possible Skynet had some sort of backup system or something and were simply not totally destroyed like Kyle Reese thought when he was sent back. Based on this we can assume that the original Terminator, T-1000 and the T-X were sent back at totally different points during the war, and not simply one after the other.
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I'm obviously talking about T1 & 2 as Cameron wrote them. Next Terminator movie might as well say all previous movies were a dream a dog had but I ain't gonna think that's a canon explanation lol :P

But regardless, I think in T3 we learn Skynet in the future was destroyed and all, and Connor and Sarah of the present managed to prevent Skynet from ever existing (basically what T1 & T2 told us)........... but only for a while.

Eventually a different Skynet came into existence anyway, Judgment Day happened and the Resistance raised once again as well. Skynet sends a TX in the past to kill members of the Resistance (because it doesn't have files on Connor's whereabouts). Connor sends a new Arnie model to make sure Connor and his wife survive; he doesn't send him to stop Judgment Day because a) he knows it's inevitable b) the Resistance wins in the future anyway. It's always Skynet sending a Terminator in the past the last moment before its defeated that never lets the Resistance celebrate their victory and instead they have to start all over!

- Connor: I mean, we took out Cyberdyne over years ago. We stopped Judgment Day.
- Arnie: You only postponed it. Judgment Day is inevitable.
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- Connor: Just leave me here. I'm not the one you want. You're wasting your time.
- Arnie: Incorrect. John Connor leads the Resistance to victory.
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T3 was an okay action movie for what is worth.
 
I think the scene in T2 was clearly foreshadowing. You don't see T1000 in full metal form until much later, but that scene gives you a small hint. The movie is hardly as serious as the first Terminator, so the scene doesn't feel out of place.
 
Aselith said:
This thread is why movies now are horrible. They can't leave anything slightly ambiguous with every nerd over thinking every goddamn thing so they feel the need to explain everything and it makes it stupid.
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It's not that's ambiguous, it's that it's so obvious it hits you over the head. I hate when movies reveal something and then the characters just sit around wrapping things up. Like, in DKR they should have just ended the movie after Talia reveals herself, but no, they have to show her climbing in the truck and trying to get the bomb. We get it, she's the real bad guy, no need to keep showing it.
 
VisceralBowl said:
I have been watching these movies for a long time now, and all I have to say is "how do you know what is really canon?" Canon does NOT matter when you have alternate timelines and time travel. Everything is canon, just because something is not canon in one timeline does not mean it is in another.
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Only 1&2 are canon.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
I think you've been reading fanfic.

No movie I know of had a plot like that.
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No way, I've seen the movie multiple times in passing. It involved Arnold trying to get Sarah Conner and this other guy to an
underground bunker
and Skynet/Female Terminator was trying to kill them.
 
Aselith said:
This thread is why movies now are horrible. They can't leave anything slightly ambiguous with every nerd over thinking every goddamn thing so they feel the need to explain everything and it makes it stupid.
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I hate it. Anything slightly ambiguous or open and you can count on a thousand 'such-and-such EXPLAINED' essays across the Internet.
 
NekoFever said:
I hate it. Anything slightly ambiguous or open and you can count on a thousand 'such-and-such EXPLAINED' essays across the Internet.
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It's an even bigger problem when fans keep demanding "the" answer from the creator. The need for a canon answer that some people feel is a bigger problem because it makes creators feel like if they don't completely explain every nuance then they're facing 50 years of nerds asking for a canon answer like poor Ridley Scott did and George Lucas. These poor bastards were hounded their whole lives for leaving something ambiguous.

Feel free to interpret things but badgering fucking Chris Nolan every time the opportunity presents so that he'll explain the "real" end of Inception is fucking bullshit.
 
Jinroh said:
What's interesting is that by the end of the movie, the T-1000 was already starting to decay, we see that in the director's cut edition or whatever else it is called.
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The theatrical version is the directors cut. Everything that was cut was for the better, the special edition is the inferior version. It's interesting to watch it with the commentary because Cameron pretty much says why he cut what he did when it gets to those scenes, explaining why he thinks the movie is better without them.

And holy fuck at the terrible "happy ending". I'm glad he realized that shit was awful.

NekoFever said:
I hate it. Anything slightly ambiguous or open and you can count on a thousand 'such-and-such EXPLAINED' essays across the Internet.
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Yep. There is nothing as bad as someone matter-of-factly explaining something that was purposely ambiguous. Not long ago at all there was someone on here trying to argue with me that T2 has a happy ending where they succesfully stop Skynet/Judgement Day. That shit is pure insanity...
 
ryutaro's mama said:
Or Terminator 3D: Battle Across Time
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T2_3-D:_Battle_Across_Time
Replaced: Fievel's Playland, An American Tail Theatre
Replaced by: Despicable Me: Minion Mayhem
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They really don't update their attractions very often, do they?

Whoa. The Florida one is still open. What?

Joni said:
Terminator canon should be T1 -> T2 -> TTSCC.
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I love SCC. Damn Fox.

angular graphics said:
T3 was an okay action movie for what is worth.
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I'll agree with this.

DJ Ghazi said:
Ah ok, I thought it was a spin off. I've only seen the first and third ones then, the first one was cool.
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What? Watch T2 now.

Ostinatto said:
why the doc (Dr. Emmett Brown), has to go the future to save Martin McFly, Jr.?
he could easily warned marty in 1985 (at the end of BTTF 1)
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He also could have just shown up at old Marty and Jennifer's house and warned them instead. I'm sure they would have loved a visit from an old friend who hadn't aged a day in 30 years. (And had actually aged backwards because of all the plastic surgery he had when he arrived in 2015.) It was only supposed to be a throwaway line for the end of the movie. There weren't even going to be sequels. In fact, if they had known they were going to make a trilogy, they would have set up the ending better. (According to commentary and numerous interviews.)
 
Aselith said:
It's an even bigger problem when fans keep demanding "the" answer from the creator. The need for a canon answer that some people feel is a bigger problem because it makes creators feel like if they don't completely explain every nuance then they're facing 50 years of nerds asking for a canon answer like poor Ridley Scott did and George Lucas. These poor bastards were hounded their whole lives for leaving something ambiguous.
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Once again, James was a visionary here, going forward:

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He learned that lesson and basically added a user's manual to his movie universe.
 
If that gets on your nerves OP then you should never watch mission impossible 2.
The motorcycles go from having racing slicks to studded offroad tires in one camera cut.
 
God damn it. Reading some of these replies about the Terminator lore got me all jazzed to watch another Terminator movie.

T1 or T2 though... ehhhh..... fuck it, T1. Haven't seen it in like 2 years now.
 
SquiddyCracker said:
Encase the bomb in a living layer of flesh :P

They could have easily circumvented that bay saying the time travel device decrease the half-life of nuclear material, so any attempt to send back a nuke would result in the time travel device exploding at their end rather than sending the bomb back.
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You guys aren't thinking fourth-dimensionally. John Connor lives in the same city as Cyberdyne Systems. Do you see the issue with sending a nuke back?
 
There is over analyzing, and there is refreshZ's over analyzing, it's like to totally different kind of beast.
 
T1000 looked like a fucking dork.

Especially when that goober was running near the end. I seriously can't believe they went from something as terrifying as evil Arnold to that dork.
 
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