So, I'm bored and I found a transcript... I'm not posting this to argue with people here, but I thought maybe some of you would find it interesting to see someone rip this video apart according to Christianity.
What if I told you Jesus came to abolish religion?
I would say no, he came to fulfill the religion of God.
Matthew 5:17-20 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Note: Accomplishment of it all wasn't his death on the cross, but is the time when all is to be joined into that death and a new heaven and new earth is born. Yet this doesn't mean every single ceremony and practice in the OT is still to be practiced by believers, because, as you can read in Hebrews, Christ is the high priest who performed/is performing much of it now. However, things like moral principles still remain as they are personal standards, not legal (in the spiritual sense, obviously) rituals.
Things get tricker trying to sort out these from expectations only on Israel as his representative nation of holiness to the world in ancient times (in practice: cultural policies and different ways of doing things to distinguish them) now that Christ was/is the primary representation of his holiness, the revelation of God to the world in a personal sense... yet we are united with him in some way and... yeah, like I said, it's tricky...
What if I told you voting republican really wasnt his mission.
What if I told you republican doesnt automatically mean Christian.
I am not shocked in the least.
And just because you call some people blind.
Doesnt automatically give you vision.
What?
I mean if religion is so great, why has it started so many wars?
Oh, well it's not nearly that simple. The initiation of war has many factors involved and when it does occur, social bonds and differences become skewed in pubic perception to justify it, including religious ones.
Why does it build huge churches, but fails to feed the poor.
Tells single moms God doesnt love them if theyve ever had a divorce.
I'm pretty sure these are personal actions. Religion is a defined pattern of life, not a person.
But in the old testament God actually calls religious people whores.
He called
some of them whores, and he used other religious people to pass that message along.
Religion might preach grace, but another thing they practice.
Woah son, you dun goofed. "They"? You're not supposed to expose the fact that you're passively aggressively talking about people you don't like. I would recommend checking yourself with James 3:13-18 in light of this.
Tend to ridicule Gods people, they did it to John The Baptist.
They cant fix their problems, and so they just mask it.
Not realizing religions like spraying perfume on a casket.
So religion is bad because people fail at following the plan their religion set out for them? That doesn't make any sense.
See the problem with religion, is it never gets to the core.
Its just behavior modification, like a long list of chores.
Like lets dress up the outside make look nice and neat.
But its funny thats what they use to do to mummies.
While the corps rots underneath.
Now I aint judgin.
Im just saying quit putting on a fake look, Cause theres a problem.
If people only know youre a Christian by your Facebook.
I mean in every other aspect of life, you know that logics unworthy.
Its like saying you play for the Lakers just because you bought a jersey.
Okay so you're saying behavior modification is bad, and what people need is some sort of change in their convictions. I'm pretty sure that falls under 'belief" which is a pillar of religion.
You see this was me too, but no one seemed to be on to me.
Acting like a church kid, while addicted to pornography.
See on Sunday Id go to church, but Saturday getting faded.
Acting if I was simply created just to have sex and get wasted.
See I spent my whole life building this facade of neatness.
But now that I know Jesus, I boast in my weakness.
Wait, so this isn't clear at all. If you apparently have a problem with how you are living, the idea you're sharing is Jesus makes it all better, but how? Do you no longer live in the way that you used to? If so, then it would seem that Jesus has helped you fulfill the religion that you were failing to fulfill before. And if this is named up front, it must have been a primary desire, which means you still wanted religion and still like it.
The other possibility is that you didn't change at all, but you feel like because Jesus said it is all okay, then it is. So rather than renewing your "core" you have in fact tossed aside all moral integrity and are proudly living in a complete dissonance of belief and action. I feel like this may be the more likely possibility with talk of boasting in your weakness, as you quote and completely misunderstand Paul.
Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?
Because if grace is water, then the church should be an ocean.
Its not a museum for good people, its a hospital for the broken.
Which means I dont have to hide my failure, I dont have to hide my sin.
Because it doesnt depend on me it depends on him.
See because when I was Gods enemy and certainly not a fan.
He looked down and said I want that man.
Which is why Jesus hated religion, and for it he called them fools.
Dont you see so much better than just following some rules.
This is an astounding failure at explaining the premise of gospel and also blatantly ignores the commands that spiritual renewal is supposed to manifest in behavioral renewal.
Now let me clarify, I love the church, I love the bible, and yes I believe in sin.
But if Jesus came to your church would they actually let him in.
See remember he was called a glutton, and a drunkard by religious men.
But the son of God never supports self righteousness not now, not then.
By biblical definition, self-righteousness does not mean any attempt to be righteous. If you are a Christian it does not mean you no longer try and always only point to the righteousness of Christ, but you believe the spiritual requirement in the view of God has been fulfilled by uniting with him, and thus all righteousness you perform but also have been his own, from that unity.
Philippians 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
You see, his good work is causing your good work so your good work is his good work. That's where the whole "Body of Christ" identity comes from, and it is why Christians ought to be "following the rules" all the more.
Now back to the point, one thing is vital to mention.
How Jesus and religion are on opposite spectrums.
See ones the work of God, but ones a man made invention.
What? You might want to try reading the Old Testament, where absolutely every single command and rule of the religion of God's people was dictated to them by God himself.
See one is the cure, but the other is the infection.
You're getting sin mixed up with that which defines sin. It does say in Romans that it was through the law by which we died, but that is only in the sense of it being "on the record" and known to us. Religion, or the law which God gave (or just any religion, as Romans 2:14-15 points out), would be the diagnosis in this analogy.
See because religion says do, Jesus says done.
Okay, you said one accurate thing.
Religion says slave, Jesus says son.
No, Jesus would say "brother" and also still slave, except now unto righteousness, because you will be made new in his likeness, and he doesn't sin.
Religion puts you in bondage, while Jesus sets you free.
Religion makes you blind, but Jesus makes you see.
No, again, religion wouldn't be the cause here, it would only be the method of identification.
And thats why religion and Jesus are two different clans.
*sigh*
Religion is man searching for God, Christianity is God searching for man.
Yes, that is the premise of Christianity but it is not the only religion to hold that premise. I can only assume that your apparent ignorance of the basics of the religion you adhere to extend to all belief systems.
Which is why salvation is freely mine, and forgiveness is my own.
Not based on my merits but Jesus obedience alone.
Because he took the crown of thorns, and the blood dripped down his face.
He took what we all deserved, I guess thats why you call it grace.
Okay, but in scripture this is described as a starting point. You don't take that message and say "Wonderful! Thanks Jesus!" but the whole purpose in a spiritual redemption to belonging to God is so that you can do what humanity was supposed to do in the first place: Not sin.
That's why whenever Jesus healed people he would say "Go and sin no more" because there was some sort of enabling expectation inherent in accepting them despite their sin, that they couldn't use being outcast as an excuse. Granted, the theology of post-acceptance expectation and forgiveness for sin as a believer gets pretty messy, but the overwhelming message of the New Testament is that it should be guiding you to stop and live according to the pattern Christ set as our Holy One... which would be the definition of religion.
And while being murdered he yelled. Father forgive them they know not what they do.
Because when he was dangling on that cross, he was thinking of you.
No, it means he was thinking about the people who were doing that to him. There is no evidence of a time-and-space transcending consciousness in Christ on the cross. He seems pretty focused on the people around him and fulfilling what the Father asked him to do.
And he absorbed all of your sin, and buried it in the tomb.
Which is why Im kneeling at the cross, saying come on theres room.
So for religion, no, I hate it, in fact I literally resent it.
Small quip: How would you
figuratively resent it?
Because when Jesus said it is finished, I believe he meant it.
Yet you seem to have little understanding as to what "it" was or what joining into "it" would then mean, namely this, which is too long to slap on the post:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans 8:1-30&version=ESV
Sounds like a lot of law-fulfillment, obedience, and religion to me.