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Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus (Video)

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The Muslim reply literally said that he loves Jesus more than the other guy loves Jesus.

Okay, I changed my mind. I love religion. It's hilarious.
 
Dunk#7 said:
I personally graduated high school with a 4.2 GPA and finished college cum laude in electrical engineering with a minor in mathematics. Looking to go back and get a masters in business. If it is so obvious that with education comes atheists how do you explain those that are well-educated, but can still defend and back up their faith?
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Surprised I missed this. That makes sense. Engineers are notorious for being unusually theistic among educated peoples.
 
I actually find Dunk#7's defense of Christianity very anemic and full of well-worn cliches and repetitions of very basic but tired apologetics (the "I hate religion but love Jebus" argument is especially stale; I heard it all the time when I was a Christian). That doesn't mean that otherwise intelligent individuals can't be Christians. But every day religion is becoming increasingly more indefensible. Even the most "sophisticated" theologians make rather large errors in their arguments. That is why there is a broad shift amongst the more intelligent members of Western society away from religion, or at least the forms of orthodox literalist religion that have been practiced for hundreds of years. This phenomenon will only continue as religious authority degrades. Otherwise, atheists don't have to explain anything. There is nothing particularly surprising about the existence of intelligent Christians. But even intelligent people have fatally flawed beliefs. A basic appeal to history will prove this.
 
Mortrialus said:
Surprised I missed this. That makes sense. Engineers are notorious for being unusually theistic among educated peoples.
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Yeah I had quite a few colleagues that were religious at the computer science faculty where I worked, even though this is Holland and you won't find many religious people at universities. Something something about not having to cope with uncertainty. God has also previously been explained as a misattribution by Man the Creator ("I create things that suit me, this world suits me, so who created it?").
 
I was taught a science class in Uni by a physics lecturer who was an evangelical. One of the questions was 'why is evolution a faulty theory'.

I failed the class.
 
OttomanScribe said:
I was taught a science class in Uni by a physics lecturer who was an evangelical. One of the questions was 'why is evolution a faulty theory'.

I failed the class.
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Ah, you muffed it chap.

The correct answer was: "Because we still got monkeys". We were looking for "Because we still got monkeys".

Congratulations though, you've been a lovely contestant, you really have.
 
SmokyDave said:
Ah, you muffed it chap.

The correct answer was: "Because we still got monkeys". We were looking for "Because we still got monkeys".

Congratulations though, you've been a lovely contestant, you really have.
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I'll know better next time lol.

Can't say I'm inclined towards doing a similar course again though.
 
I forgot to mention that one of my uber religious friends posted this on her Facebook......She agrees with every word he said....
 
I liked his line

"Till death do us part really means until the feelings go away"
 
Hylian7 said:
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This guy drives me nuts. Stupid Jesus bandaid bullshit. There is nothing magical about knowing Jesus that makes you understand what it means to properly treat your spouse and carry out a marriage. If you want to argue that the bible teaches a good marriage model that can work, I can accept that as a perspective that has perhaps had some thought put behind it, but to act like knowing Jesus = happy marriage is just bullshit.

If you're going to use the bible to demonstrate anything about marriage, how about looking at the initial characterization of marriage that it gives? "Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it." or in more plain words, build communities. Perhaps a united effort as a couple to bring something of value to the world is an essential component of a fulfilling and empathetic marriage that our individualistic, media-driven culture is lacking. Perhaps that is why Christian divorce rates are the same as non-Christian.

Oh and guess what, there are probably a thousand other issues mixed into the matter of holding a marriage together that are social, biological, familial, circumstantial, personal, etc. Yeah, maybe God doesn't want you to attempt reducing your entire life and everything it means to be human down to the affirmation of a single point.
 
Weird how that video is getting so much hate. Oh, wait, I'm on GAF, lol. As a poem, I thought it was pretty good and had some nice lines. As far as what he was saying, I don't see how it was incendiary or worthy of causing such anger in some. It's a poem about a little of his personal journey and how it changed him for the better, and why.
 
Esiquio said:
Weird how that video is getting so much hate. Oh, wait, I'm on GAF, lol. As a poem, I thought it was pretty good and had some nice lines. As far as what he was saying, I don't see how it was incendiary or worthy of causing such anger in some. It's a poem about a little of his personal journey and how it changed him for the better, and why.
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The hate religion but love jesus one?

Because it's disingenious at its best. Outright fucking lies at its worst.

Essentially listening to the video with any amount of critical thinking (as in, not blithely accepting it like a drone), you'll quickly realize he's very much pro-HIS-religion.


And the followup, marriage & god thing.

Well, some decent points to be made, but unnecessarily framed against the backdrop of religion.

Basically, this guy is some hyped up youthful preacher using youtube to get his sermonizing across... and then trying to sell it as some wordplay poetry.
 
Dice said:
This guy drives me nuts. Stupid Jesus bandaid bullshit. There is nothing magical about knowing Jesus that makes you understand what it means to properly treat your spouse and carry out a marriage. If you want to argue that the bible teaches a good marriage model that can work, I can accept that as a perspective that has perhaps had some thought put behind it, but to act like knowing Jesus = happy marriage is just bullshit.

If you're going to use the bible to demonstrate anything about marriage, how about looking at the initial characterization of marriage that it gives? "Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it." or in more plain words, build communities. Perhaps a united effort as a couple to bring something of value to the world is an essential component of a fulfilling and empathetic marriage that our individualistic, media-driven culture is lacking. Perhaps that is why Christian divorce rates are the same as non-Christian.

Oh and guess what, there are probably a thousand other issues mixed into the matter of holding a marriage together that are social, biological, familial, circumstantial, personal, etc. Yeah, maybe God doesn't want you to attempt reducing your entire life and everything it means to be human down to the affirmation of a single point.
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Your interpretation wildly differs from mine! Even more so the bolded.

I understood as a speech of how the value of matrimony (which for a christian is sacred, and that's basically the point of doing a video about it actually) has diluted.
I mean, if you marry in a church and you say those vows, christian or non-christian or whatever, and they hold no meaning to you, and all that stuff is just a flanteous way to say your civil status legally changed, more power to you.

But if you believe marriage means a honest commitment to your partner, you oughta think twice before accepting!
 
Esiquio said:
Weird how that video is getting so much hate. Oh, wait, I'm on GAF, lol. As a poem, I thought it was pretty good and had some nice lines. As far as what he was saying, I don't see how it was incendiary or worthy of causing such anger in some. It's a poem about a little of his personal journey and how it changed him for the better, and why.
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Because he said religion is terrible, but his Church, Christianity, and Jesus are all great. What that means is that all other religions are terrible, only Christianity is awesome. It takes just the slightest amount of thinking to realize his message, but since he doesn't really start to reveal his agenda until the second half of his video, most people probably were probably zoned out or stopped watching by then.
 
cutmeamango said:
I mean, if you marry in a church and you say those vows, christian or non-christian or whatever, and they hold no meaning to you, and all that stuff is just a flanteous way to say your civil status legally changed, more power to you.

But if you believe marriage means a honest commitment to your partner, you oughta think twice before accepting!
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Who honestly doesn't get married with the intention of it being a promise? He's clearly saying that believing in Jesus magically makes you keep your promises. It's basically...

"If you promise your wife that you'll love her, you won't. If you promise JESUS that you'll love your wife, you will."

If that's not what he means, all he is saying is that the problem with people breaking their promises is that they aren't keeping their promises. I don't need to explain why that is a worthless statement.
 
Spider from Mars said:
Sounds like he is pretty fond of religion. Have fun in hell liar.
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I have the feeling that people don't understand that it's really popular in Christian circles to not consider Christianity a "religion" (as in a set of rules and parameters you have to meet to get into Heaven or please God) but as something more like a "relationship" where the work has already been done for you. This is the sentiment of "religion" that he's referring to in his videos where he puts down religion (like Jesus put down the religious leaders, because of their hypocrisies and obsessions with control and oppression through religion), not the actual textbook definition of religion.

And yeah, if you take out the God/Bible stuff in his marriage/sex video, it's true, because that's the basis of how a successful relationship works. That's how it should work in many cases but it's fallen apart these days.

Zzoram said:
Because he said religion is terrible, but his Church, Christianity, and Jesus are all great. What that means is that all other religions are terrible, only Christianity is awesome. It takes just the slightest amount of thinking to realize his message, but since he doesn't really start to reveal his agenda until the second half of his video, most people probably were probably zoned out or stopped watching by then.
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Oh wow, you mean he's a Christian who believes his doctrine to be true (which would make other beliefs false) and he wants to promote this message because his doctrine tells him to? You don't say, that's quite shocking. lol
 
soul creator said:
you heard him GAF, put down the controller!
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LMAO

I liked his first video, second one not as much. He talks about Jesus too much, when it should really be between the 2 spouses. Other than that, I wish he would have gone more of the "trophy wife" route and talked about how people get married for shallow reasons. Great video though
 
The Lamp said:
Oh wow, you mean he's a Christian who believes his doctrine to be true (which would make other beliefs false) and he wants to promote this message because his doctrine tells him to? You don't say, that's quite shocking. lol
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Of course that's what I expected, but I'm just saying it's a bit of a bait and switch, and really nothing new other than the poem format.
 
Apeopleman said:
LMAO

I liked his first video, second one not as much. He talks about Jesus too much, when it should really be between the 2 spouses. Other than that, I wish he would have gone more of the "trophy wife" route and talked about how people get married for shallow reasons. Great video though
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Of course he talks about Jesus too much, he thinks successful marriages require Jesus.

I knew a couple once who said every day in public that the thing they loved most about their partner was how much they loved God and Jesus. They didn't even appear to like each other, but they were only allowed to date within their local church so they didn't have many options. It was bizarre.
 
Dice said:
Who honestly doesn't get married with the intention of it being a promise? He's clearly saying that believing in Jesus magically makes you keep your promises. It's basically...

"If you promise your wife that you'll love her, you won't. If you promise JESUS that you'll love your wife, you will."

If that's not what he means, all he is saying is that the problem with people breaking their promises is that they aren't keeping their promises. I don't need to explain why that is a worthless statement.
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I didn't get that from him at all!
I understood as: People promise things without realizing (or will to do) the effort necessary to fulfill them. And since we are so quick to fall on failure, it only gets worse.

The Jesus part is that if you are a christian, you should know the value of matrimony and what it represents. If you can't be honest with yourself, how can you be honest with your partner?
 
From the beginning, God has wanted a relationship with each of us. This is what the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is all about.

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil

Introduced in the opening chapters of Genesis, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was the one tree of which Adam and Eve were not to partake. When they disobeyed and ate of the forbidden tree, death and damnation were the result.

The question arises as to why God would place a forbidden tree in the Garden in the first place. I suggest the following reasons . . . Choice. Because God is love, He wants a loving relationship with humanity. But true love always demands a choice.

Therefore, God said to Adam and Eve, ‘Because I want to live with you in a love relationship, I will provide you the opportunity to dump Me, to reject Me, to turn your back on Me. Eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil will be a sign to you and to Me that you don’t want to maintain a loving relationship with Me.’ Simply put, without the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, there would be no choice; and without choice love is questionable.

Dependence.

Before they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam and Eve knew only good because any time they had a question, they went directly to God for the answer. This is the way God created them — not because He wanted to cripple man, but because He wanted to bless man. Yet when man ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he knew good and evil apart from God. He no longer realized he needed a moment by moment reliance on the Father. Thus, he became independent — cut off from all the resources and blessings of his Creator.

The Tree of Calvary

The tree of Calvary covers my mistakes, washes away my arrogance, cleanses my sin. You see, after offering the sacrifice of His own body for the bloody messes I have made, Jesus arose from the grave to obliterate the grave mistakes I have made.
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It blows my mind how many atheists spend so much time arguing about religion. It's just like the people always against the big three console makers over at the gaming side. If you don't like something just stay away. Or maybe people just need more stuff to do in a day?
 
VGChampion said:
It blows my mind how many atheists spend so much time arguing about religion. It's just like the people always against the big three console makers over at the gaming side. If you don't like something just stay away. Or maybe people just need more stuff to do in a day?
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for real, why do people argue about politics? Who cares if it influences the world around you? Just stay away from it, gosh.
 
VGChampion said:
It blows my mind how many atheists spend so much time arguing about religion. It's just like the people always against the big three console makers over at the gaming side. If you don't like something just stay away. Or maybe people just need more stuff to do in a day?
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If only it were that easy...
 
VGChampion said:
It blows my mind how many atheists spend so much time arguing about religion. It's just like the people always against the big three console makers over at the gaming side. If you don't like something just stay away. Or maybe people just need more stuff to do in a day?
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I'm trying to but my parents will throw me out of the house if I don't go to church with them every Sunday.

That Christian love, y'know.
 
Hylian7 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4OK9DmLpCY&sns=fb

Look who's at it again! This time he's shitting on divorced people!
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Your description seems a bit off to me. He seems to be lecturing all of us for our inability to follow the holy ways he believes in.

Put down the controller fellas!


VGChampion said:
It blows my mind how many atheists spend so much time arguing about religion. It's just like the people always against the big three console makers over at the gaming side. If you don't like something just stay away. Or maybe people just need more stuff to do in a day?
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You know what would probably blow your mind more than that? Learning what science can tell us right now about how life on this earth came to be, as well as how our universe works.

It's very hard to ignore religion, at least living in the U.S today. It's everywhere you look, and as a non believer, it's hard not to speak up every once in a while. In an average day, I would bet I hear or see a religious reference 20 times.
 
VGChampion said:
It blows my mind how many atheists spend so much time arguing about religion. It's just like the people always against the big three console makers over at the gaming side. If you don't like something just stay away. Or maybe people just need more stuff to do in a day?
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I don't know what religion you are, but if you think Christianity and Islam don't play HUGE roles in politics, you must be living in a very secular country.
 
VGChampion said:
It blows my mind how many atheists spend so much time arguing about religion. It's just like the people always against the big three console makers over at the gaming side. If you don't like something just stay away. Or maybe people just need more stuff to do in a day?
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This right here is why I personally argue.

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Religion holds us down as a race.
 
that graph always makes me laugh...I don't think it's accurate in any way though (vaguely remember seeing something that debunked the whole "dark ages was bad for science" notion) Or at the very least, wasn't any worse for science than any other time.

I'm not saying "religion and science are totally awesome together!" either though.
 
gibon3z said:
This right here is why I personally argue.

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Religion holds us down as a race.
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Come on, man, that argument's just embarrassing and just gives fuel to the "hurr atheists are all angsty scientist wannabes". At least use a chart that has some studied merit to it and not stupidly watermarked.
 
gibon3z said:
This right here is why I personally argue.

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Religion holds us down as a race.
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How did they measured up scientifc advancements?! And how science regressed in the 'dark ages'?!?

Sorry, but anyone that had history classes in high school knows this is laughable.

edit: Ultra late here
 
Why there seems to be a lot of angry, bitter people on this thread?

Some people act like Christianity and Christians are the plague.

Lighten up. Be respectful and love other people.
 
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