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[TheKaeptain]

He could be talking about the prequels for all we now.



Fist bump me, bro.

We know his post history.

 

[DrSlek]

If your taste in films wasn't so bad it wouldn't be an issue now, would it?

 

[sans_pants]

Try going to film school


I eventually snapped and started repping weekend at bernie's 2 to everyone

 

[Bronx-Man]

We know his post history.

I have a dream that one day a poster will not be judged by the production studio he gives money to, but by the content of the movies he enjoys.

 

[CharminUltra]

I can't relate, OP. I very rarely meet film snobs for some reason.

Video game and music snobs, though? They're there pretty much everywhere I go.

 

[Walpurgis]

You did. Try reading and thinking at the same time.

Maybe you should post on topic instead of waving your fedora around?

 

[Langdon Alger]

It seems like a lot of film snobs on GAF not only prefer visual storytelling, but actually think that visual storytelling is objectively superior, and requires more intelligence to understand, than other kinds of storytelling.

 

[- J - D -]

Music nerds don't seem as vocal.

What about Bond theme music nerds?




btw Sam Smith's Bond theme sux.

 

[old manatee]

Maybe you should post on topic instead of waving your fedora around?

Film snobs wear a beret.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Maybe you should post on topic instead of waving your fedora around?

I did, you dingleberry. WTF is going on here?

See my third post if you are not good at reading.

 

[TheKaeptain]

I have a dream that one day a poster will not be judged by the production studio he gives money to, but by the content of the movies he enjoys.

I read this in what I would imagine a baby bane voice would sound like.

Film snobs wear a beret.

We wear driver's caps.

 

[Bronx-Man]

It seems like a lot of film snobs on GAF not only prefer visual storytelling, but actually think that visual storytelling is objectively superior, and requires more intelligence to understand, than other kinds of storytelling.

These people think Interstellar is the 72nd best movie of all time, don't take anything they say seriously.

I read this in what I would imagine a baby bane voice would sound like.

All according to keikaku.

 

[old manatee]

I didn't get the whole thing with the book case.

 

[guek]

What I find more annoying is people who demand those who dislike something to thoroughly explain themselves (as if short quick post aren't cool or allowed), but don't do the same for those who do like what they like even if their posts are just as empty.

Nice try at a jab but that time I got on your case for that wasn't because your posts were empty but because they were repetitive and tired. If you want to keep posting like that though, maybe grow thicker skin and accept people might point out they find it annoying.

you see guek was making a stealth "why doesn't everybody like my marvel movies" thread but you had to let the cat out of the bag man!

I'm sure you'll believe whatever you want to believe but no, that's not really the case. I'd be lying if I said I haven't seen people being snobby about their distaste for Marvel but this thread was more in response to the general attitude towards film tastes on gaf. What I'm talking about happens in far more than just comicbook movie threads.

I did laugh when he said it happens in film more often. OP, have you ever read literature reviews?

Did you read the first post? Because I was clearly talking specifically about prevalence on gaf. Yes, you can find snobs in any art medium.

 

[TouchMyBox]

I only watch The Entertainment.

 

[StoopKid]

I can't relate, OP. I very rarely meet film snobs for some reason.

Video game and music snobs, though? They're there pretty much everywhere I go.

Most film snobs are just very vocal on the Internet.

a majority of the academy films aren't box office hits.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Guys let's just agree that the Grand Budapest Hotel or Whiplash deserved the award more than Birdman.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Guys let's just agree that the Grand Budapest Hotel or Whiplash deserved the award more than Birdman.

The former I can agree with.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

Nice try at a jab but that time I got on your case for that wasn't because your posts were empty but because they were repetitive and tired. If you want to keep posting like that though, maybe grow thicker skin and accept people might point out they find it annoying.

This has to be irony... right?

I'm sure you'll believe whatever you want to believe but no, that's not really the case. I'd be lying if I said I haven't seen people being snobby about their distaste for Marvel but this thread was more in response to the general attitude towards film tastes on gaf. What I'm talking about happens in far more than just comicbook movie threads.



Did you read the first post? Because I was clearly talking specifically about prevalence on gaf. Yes, you can find snobs in any art medium.

Then move on? People will be vocal about their dislikes in a thread about that subject. I think you take criticism or jokes not directed at you way too personally.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Guys let's just agree that Whiplash deserved the award more than Birdman.

Damn right. Birdman is the most pretentious piece of shit I've ever seen, and I do mean pretentious in the fullest sense of the word.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Nice try at a jab but that time I got on your case for that wasn't because your posts were empty but because they were repetitive and tired. If you want to keep posting like that though, maybe grow thicker skin and accept people might point out they find it annoying.

Dude...

 

[CharminUltra]

Guys let's just agree that the Grand Budapest Hotel or Whiplash deserved the award more than Birdman.

See, this I can agree with. And I even liked Birdman due to its seamless editing.

Whiplash was just so intense and exactly what I look for in a movie that I can't help but like it more.

 

[guek]

We know his post history.

So you're so caught up in your own shit that you want to make this thread about my posting history when I never even brought up Marvel films? I'm not remotely interesting talking solely about comicbook movies here. I made the OP about film snobs in general. Plenty of people on gaf are snobbish about films outside of comicbook movies.

I know you have a lot of pent up animosity towards me though. Let it all out. It's ok.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

Damn right. Birdman is the most pretentious piece of shit I've ever seen, and I do mean pretentious in the fullest sense of the word.

Did you know Birdman is all about how Micheal Keaton was Batman in the old Batman movies and he's trying to regain that glory? They call it Birdman because the movie can't use the Batman character.

 

[Secret Fawful]

Honestly, I love the film community on this board, even though some of them hate my ass because I'm a crazy person with severe anxiety issues, who legitimately can not HELP but let people's comments get to me, and also puts way too much thought and anxiety into whether or not other people like what I like. It's pathetic, and it sucks, but a lot of it depends on how my anxiety is doing that day. It's now how I want to be, but it's how I'm stuck being.

Still, I haven't found a more knowledgeable film community on the net yet, who actually watch film outside of Hollywood. There's not as much of a dedicated wuxia community or knowledgebase in there as I would like, and the same goes for spaghetti westerns, but what there is are people who can teach me about film and point me to all the great stuff like Antonioni and Godard and Wenders and deBroca that I otherwise wouldn't easily run into or find out about. That's worth all the shit I might get at times.

(And it's my fault for throwing a tantrum about people hating Marvel once, and also letting my anxiety drive me into getting depressed about people criticizing stuff I like, but to be fair, that's been at least TWO YEARS AGO. Nowadays, I don't even want to watch Avengers anymore, let alone most of Marvel. If Spidey and Black Panther weren't upcoming, I'd probably have grown out of it by now, and looking back, they seriously fucked up some of their heroes like Thor bad.)

I love film, and I'm super passionate about it, and I'd rather learn from these people and where they're coming from then to dismiss them as just meanie pants snobs or whatever, even though I do think there is a lot of constant criticism of every film under the sun on here. I have even questioned at times if some dudes here even LIKE FILM, but then I realize that's silly because why would they discuss in a film community if they didn't? I just let shit get to me too easily, but I can't help myself a lot of the time because I'm so passionate about movies.

Also, I wish people would get off my back and understand where I'm coming from sometimes, but again, because of anxiety, I project views of myself onto other people out of a terrible fear of being judged. Views that probably aren't real. Like, if Kaeptain hadn't said in here he's joking 99% of the time, I would never have known.

Big ander's post is spot-on, and I wish I could take his advice. I would if I had the choice.

 

[Currygan]

Guys let's just agree that the Grand Budapest Hotel or Whiplash deserved the award more than Birdman.

Whiplash deserved a bag of cocks, but GBH was probably worth of at least a couple more Oscars

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

"Winter Sleep" was better than any of the movies nominated for an Oscar last year, and it wasn't even nominated for the foreign language Oscar, let alone "Best Picture".

Quality is rarely recognized or embraced in its own time. Snobbery is the logical concomitant of that.

 

[wachie]

Age of Ultron sucked.

Dont you say anything about Mahvel bro? Not like this!

 

[Puck Beaverton]

Damn right. Birdman is the most pretentious piece of shit I've ever seen, and I do mean pretentious in the fullest sense of the word.

Yeah despite pretentious losing a lot of its meaning it's a great way to describe that movie and Iñarittu.

 

[Fusebox]

I'm not bothered by it.

The condescension of a forum population that I am pretty sure goes to see Marvel's latest children movie wearing their Iron Man pajamas doesn't mean much to me.

The twist is.. you are the movie snob.

 

[guek]

Then move on? People will be vocal about their dislikes in a thread about that subject. I think you take criticism or jokes not directed at you way too personally.

Well this thread wasn't intended to be about me even though some people clearly want it to be. I don't care if some random person online has a different opinion than me but I do enjoy a well argued discussion. Again, this thread wasn't about solely my tastes vs. everyone else's though.

 

[Bronx-Man]

So you're so caught up in your own shit that you want to make this thread about my posting history when I never even brought up Marvel films? I'm not remotely interesting talking solely about comicbook movies here. I made the OP about film snobs in general. Plenty of people on gaf are snobbish about films outside of comicbook movies.

I know you have a lot of pent up animosity towards me though. Let it all out. It's ok.

Gott'em!

 

[StoopKid]

So you're so caught up in your own shit that you want to make this thread about my posting history when I never even brought up Marvel films? I'm not remotely interesting talking solely about comicbook movies here. I made the OP about film snobs in general. Plenty of people on gaf are snobbish about films outside of comicbook movies.

I know you have a lot of pent up animosity towards me though. Let it all out. It's ok.

Dont you say anything about Mahvel bro? Not like this!

Sorry op your thread is ruined now.

 

[Langdon Alger]

"Winter Sleep" was better than any of the movies nominated for an Oscar last year, and it wasn't even nominated for the foreign language Oscar, let alone "Best Picture".

Quality is rarely recognized or embraced in its own time. Snobbery is the logical concomitant of that.

I'd say quality is usually recognized and embraced in it's own time (although not by the average Joe Six Pack) and only rarely is something that can only be appreciated by future generations looking back on it.

 

[wolfhowwl]

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Aren't you a little old for Marvel films, OP?

When did it become acceptable, even trendy, to partake in such infantile pleasures as an adult? Just as it is unhealthy to take a date to the McDonald's playpen or play with nerfguns in a board room it is unhealthy, disgustingly so, to obsess over masked and caped cartoon icons from your childhood.

There was time and place for Captain America and Iron Man, for cheap thrills and shallow amusement, but that was ten years and twenty pounds ago.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Lots of daggers flying around.

And irony.

 

[blame space]

movies: are they even that good?

 

[guek]

I don't know that you're necessarily wrong, but it seems like that opener is an admission that you recognize there are a lot of users (not just GAF, but any form of social media) who tend to approach any possibility of disagreement with - if not outright hostility - a general defensiveness that assumes someone absolutely wants to fight you at all times.

Condescension is just one of the pre-emptive defensive moves people employ without really thinking about it, or why they're doing it. But if they can put on the front like "it's not really even worth your time to try fighting me on this because it's fairly obvious I'm like, a hundred times smarter than you on this subject" to dissuade that fight, they'll do it.

It's all a matter of the mindset with which you enter into any bullshit session: Are you looking to share opinions/ideas, even if you disagree with them? Or are you looking for someone to be wrong about something so you can cave their shins in?

I like learning shit I didn't know before I opened my fat mouth, personally. I can do without people being rampant assmouths about it, (and I could do better about the shit dripping from my own tongue, really) but if I find a "film snob" on this forum, I tend to pay attention, because it's possible I'm about to learn some shit I didn't know before.

It's happened more often than it hasn't.

Thanks for actually responding to the questions I originally posed. I think you're right about people defaulting to a defensive stance whenever their opinions are brought up. It's something I think is more prevalent online though than in person. People can be so caustic under the veil of anonymity.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Speaking as someone who's been the butt of jokes in the film thread for years, I can honestly say: either get over it, or learn and grow.

Snobbery is shitty, but having your opinions challenged will help you learn and grow. Embrace it.

 

[TheKaeptain]

So you're so caught up in your own shit that you want to make this thread about my posting history when I never even brought up Marvel films? I'm not remotely interesting talking solely about comicbook movies here. I made the OP about film snobs in general. Plenty of people on gaf are snobbish about films outside of comicbook movies.

I know you have a lot of pent up animosity towards me though. Let it all out. It's ok.

So cute.

Like, if Kaeptain hadn't said in here he's joking 99% of the time, I would never have known.

How do you not know this? It's no secret I am just trolling 75% of the time.

Spoiler

Avengers films are trash though.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

movies: are they even that good?

TV vs movies thread incoming?

Movies, of course

 

[Bronx-Man]

Aren't you a little old for Marvel films, OP?

When did it become acceptable, even trendy, to partake in such infantile pleasures as an adult? Just as it is unhealthy to take a date to the McDonald's playpen or play with nerfguns in a board room it is unhealthy, disgustingly so, to obsess over masked and caped cartoon icons from your childhood.

There was time and place for Captain America and Iron Man, for cheap thrills and shallow amusement, but that was ten years and twenty pounds ago.

“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

- C.S. Lewis

 

[Discotheque]

“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

- C.S. Lewis

that dude made a bunch of books about a lion jesus fighting a bunch of goat people and shit.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

How do you not know this? It's no secret I am just trolling 75% of the time.

Spoiler

Avengers films are trash though.

And that is fine.

Spoiler

Total trash.

 

[Haly]

Quotes being dropped in here left and right.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

Well this thread wasn't intended to be about me even though some people clearly want it to be. I don't care if some random person online has a different opinion than me but I do enjoy a well argued discussion. Again, this thread wasn't about solely my tastes vs. everyone else's though.

It's not about you, sure, but it's hard to separate this knowing your post history and how you defend certain movies to the bitter end.

Film snobbery generally exists in this fashion: this guy doesn't like my favorite movie and made a joke about plot hole X so he's a pretentious douchebag and is just a snob. NO FUN ALLOWED. You will rarely see hoity toity snobs with their monocles speaking in English. You will see what you want to see, and from your history it appears you dislike those who dislike certain movies so you see them as snobs.

 

[StoopKid]

Aren't you a little old for Marvel films, OP?

When did it become acceptable, even trendy, to partake in such infantile pleasures as an adult? Just as it is unhealthy to take a date to the McDonald's playpen or play with nerfguns in a board room it is unhealthy, disgustingly so, to obsess over masked and caped cartoon icons from your childhood.

There was time and place for Captain America and Iron Man, for cheap thrills and shallow amusement, but that was ten years and twenty pounds ago.

Couldn't even imagine living life like this.

What's next too old to eat ice cream with sprinkles?

 

[Puck Beaverton]

You don't see Godard being marketed to kids.

Checkmate comic fans.

 

[G-Fex]

And is this a phenomenon more unique to GAF compared to the real world?

I've been thinking about making this thread for some time now. Condescension and open conceit feels like the norm on GAF whenever people talk about movies they enjoy or don't enjoy. This wouldn't be so odd if other forms of entertainment weren't better at avoiding the same kind of scrutiny. Most threads on a specific music genres are less populated with backhanded remarks, for example. People are frequently told to listen to what they enjoy or read the books that speak to them. Even TV threads seem less likely to become playgrounds for snobs. Movies don't get the same kind of open minded approach to differing tastes. The issue is compounded by the fact that, like books and music, few people on this board are actually well versed in film history or filmmaking yet speak as though they are.

Is this because movies require so little time to watch and digest? Books take days to read, not part of an afternoon, and thus fewer people are likely to have an opinion on any given book. Songs last mere minutes, but maybe their ubiquity and sheer volume are what help insulate music from the same kind of condescension. Everyone has their own taste in music, but because music is so overwhelmingly varied, looking down on others for their musical choices is less acceptable. So do movies fall victim to snobbery because they inhabit the middle ground? In other words, is it because it's easy to feel like an expert in a medium that has a fairly modest amount of variety? Are poeple movie snobs simply because it is easy to be one?

Or am I wrong altogether and people tend to be snobs about everything all the time?

They're snobs about everything, even gaming side, especially in gaming. If you don't like or care about dark souls/bloodborne/p.t.tlou/whatever then you're the worst person ever.

 

[old manatee]

I didn't get the Graduate. Like, he already graduated before the movie started so why even call it the Graduate? Call it Milf Hunter because that's what he's up to now.