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Why is NeoGaf so predominantly male?
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User 100115
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Basically, a bunch of people coming in and saying 'lol videos games are for dudes', women saying it's more complicated than that, people explaining the reasons that even a forum like Gaf can be offputting for women, jars, some people coming in and saying that women only like social games and are only into gaming because of boyfriends, and therefore can't be 'real' gamers, jars, repeat the first bits, sherlock, batman, and now here
Charles Foster Kane
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Basically, a bunch of people coming in and saying 'lol videos games are for dudes', women saying it's more complicated than that, people explaining the reasons that even a forum like Gaf can be offputting for women, jars, some people coming in and saying that women only like social games and are only into gaming because of boyfriends, and therefore can't be 'real' gamers, jars, repeat the first bits, sherlock, batman, and now here
Batman? lol
Thanks.
Nononononono, first ep of season 2 is great so far.
User 100115
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A lot of people's favorite of the whole bunch.
I can see why, easily my favorite episode so far.
He gets his ass handed to him (for now).
NTIETS13A_Superiority
Banned
I think the answer is ...
Why I hate asshats.
now that is question worthy of a thread.
Why I hate asshats.
now that is question worthy of a thread.
Well, according to many on gaming side, yes there are enough people who would be completely put off by the idea to make it impossible for the game to actually be profitable.
no u
I'd say if someone's unwilling to play a game that stars a female protagonist, they've got some pretty fucked up ideas about women. We're all human, and more alike than we are different. If someone is saying: "Sorry, I can't ever relate to a woman" I can't help but conclude they don't even see them as human.
I don't find the discussion of who can beat up who particularly interesting when it comes to superheroes. I wouldn't mind a Batman vs. Black Panther fight, but the enjoyment there is more in the animation/art, fight choreography, execution, etc. and not who actually wins.
The Artful Dodger
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Zaraki_Kenpachi
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That would actually be really interesting.
freenudemacusers
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"I can't relate to this". Which is pretty much what a lot of people said about Carl Johnson, and he's a dude.
" Women don't do [insert gansta related thing here]"
One of them had to nerve to call gansters like the godfather generic itallian-esque mobsters, bank robbers ect. classy, and I believe and people like CJ weren't classy for some reason. Because organized thugs and killers have a classy scale.
Those are the best kinds of discussions, what you a person with better things to do?
But seriously I concern myself with the winner depending on what kind of fight it is. Like if its super man vs the Sentinel , I am watching for the fighting not the winning. But if its super man vs Dr Strange. Now we I have to pay attention , because these are two different types of heroes, with two different types of specialties. One possibly outclassing the other. Not a fan of bullshit losses so I pay attention in those circumstances.
One of them had to nerve to call gansters like the godfather generic itallian-esque mobsters, bank robbers ect. classy, and I believe and people like CJ weren't classy for some reason. Because organized thugs and killers have a classy scale.
Those are the best kinds of discussions, what you a person with better things to do?
But seriously I concern myself with the winner depending on what kind of fight it is. Like if its super man vs the Sentinel , I am watching for the fighting not the winning. But if its super man vs Dr Strange. Now we I have to pay attention , because these are two different types of heroes, with two different types of specialties. One possibly outclassing the other. Not a fan of bullshit losses so I pay attention in those circumstances.
PLOT TWIST. This episode is amazing.
I was gonna say, that would be pretty cool if we saw that world through a woman's perspective.
I was gonna say, that would be pretty cool if we saw that world through a woman's perspective.
I actually wonder if that's an empathy problem period as I'm sure many people CAN relate to, say, dogs or cats just fine. Nevermind the GTA:SA example there, some people just seem unwilling to go beyond a certain narrow frame.
Still, even under the most generous view this unwillingness to go out of a comfort zone is what contributes to homogeneity with game protagonists... and movie protagonists too come to think of it, so it's still frustrating to see people refuse that.
Really ?
Batman vs Sherlock discussion and NOBODY linked the Epic Rap Battles of History episode on that ????
Shame =|
Btw, the next season starts tomorrow =3
Batman vs Sherlock discussion and NOBODY linked the Epic Rap Battles of History episode on that ????
Shame =|
Btw, the next season starts tomorrow =3
This might be slightly off-topic, but often I'll get ads on GAF about some online MMO or something that advertises itself as "FOR MALE GAMERS ONLY." Here are two examples:
Not only is it sexist, but it's an absolutely stupid way to advertise your game. For one, you're alienating female gamers and making them not want to play your game. And secondly, what kind of guy looks at that and thinks "Male gamers only? Now this I gotta play!"
Not only is it sexist, but it's an absolutely stupid way to advertise your game. For one, you're alienating female gamers and making them not want to play your game. And secondly, what kind of guy looks at that and thinks "Male gamers only? Now this I gotta play!"
Maybe they've been burned too many times by girls playing MMO's for attention and gifts.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Either someone's actually buying into that crap or at least marketing thinks they do, given Dr Pepper's own attempt. Which ends up just putting me off to the notion of masculinity if anything, though it really does come off more as a lame attempt at over compensating for that Dr Pepper thing.
Maybe they've been burned too many times by girls playing MMO's for attention and gifts.
That is something I never got, I have seen people loose whole accounts trying to entertain a girl.
Not trying to be rude but, why you giving away all that, for a girl who isn't giving you anything in return, not even friendship, let alone screwing.
I am not saying all girls in MMO's are like this, that would be a lie. But every once in a while I see a dude just away giving ass long ass list of like Paid shit, for someone they barely know.
What happened?
The Artful Dodger
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This might be slightly off-topic, but often I'll get ads on GAF about some online MMO or something that advertises itself as "FOR MALE GAMERS ONLY." Here are two examples:
Not only is it sexist, but it's an absolutely stupid way to advertise your game. For one, you're alienating female gamers and making them not want to play your game. And secondly, what kind of guy looks at that and thinks "Male gamers only? Now this I gotta play!"
Maybe there are sooo many women in the game world that they only want men in there to fix the ratio...
hey_monkey
Banned
So many games that did have string female protagonists (or tried to) failed on other levels, but then one of the reasons blamed is lolgirl characters. And even when we get a female lead? Well, sometimes they are kinda bogus.
Vague post, on phone, hanging with sleepy baby. But a lot of the good examples are games in which the character doesn't matter much and just happens to be female (see: Portal), but maybe that's not a bad thing.
I sure wouldn't mind spending a few years writing in the industry, though.
Vague post, on phone, hanging with sleepy baby. But a lot of the good examples are games in which the character doesn't matter much and just happens to be female (see: Portal), but maybe that's not a bad thing.
I sure wouldn't mind spending a few years writing in the industry, though.
The Technomancer
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Sheer desperation and a deep misunderstanding of how human relationships work
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
My guess is they're trying to entice horny men making them think there's nudity or something in it. I'm going to assume these are pretty generic games that nobody - men or women - would want to play in the first place and that's there 'marketing' ploy.This might be slightly off-topic, but often I'll get ads on GAF about some online MMO or something that advertises itself as "FOR MALE GAMERS ONLY." Here are two examples:
Not only is it sexist, but it's an absolutely stupid way to advertise your game. For one, you're alienating female gamers and making them not want to play your game. And secondly, what kind of guy looks at that and thinks "Male gamers only? Now this I gotta play!"
Edit: I've seen the Wartunes one pop up a lot but that Pirates one.... lol! They blatantly ripped off the Disney PotC logo.
Also consider that some of those are guys pretending to be girls. (But no one calls them out on their shit.)
And ironically, what the girls are giving the guys in return is attention, even if it lasts for all of five seconds.
MrCunningham
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Because men will follow their video cartridges anywhere...
hey_monkey
Banned
ITT, we discover a lot of people really enjoy categories, boxes, and lines in the sand.
I... well wow ok.
So the game plan here for you bud, is when you get to the end of a thing, reflect back on it and conclude "so what it comes down to is i'm an elitist, marginalizing jerk" you oughta delete the post and sit quietly for a hot minute. Why would you want to be those things. Choose to not be those things and the world would be happier.
also its hard to call urself elitist you cant bother to capitalize.
So the game plan here for you bud, is when you get to the end of a thing, reflect back on it and conclude "so what it comes down to is i'm an elitist, marginalizing jerk" you oughta delete the post and sit quietly for a hot minute. Why would you want to be those things. Choose to not be those things and the world would be happier.
also its hard to call urself elitist you cant bother to capitalize.
I hate those
They're terrible
User 100115
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Gotta make it so that them women aren't actually gamers in the end.
hey_monkey
Banned
As an aside, PoliGAF says Dax's ban is reportedly permanent, possibly for a post in this thread. Thought that might be of interest.
I guess because, although there are female gamers out there, most of the gamers today are still males. Plus, in my experience it's not always easy to tell if someone is a male or female here on Gaf, and not every female is going to flaunt or bring attention to the fact that she's a female (at least I don't see the point in it). Honestly, I don't really care. I'm just glad that NeoGAF exists and that there are male and female members.
natsuyasumi
Member
Your jokes aren't funny and you're not very good at understanding real-life concerns through text.
To be clear, I was kind of only commenting on your persona's jokes and lack of ability to understand real-life concerns. I'm sure the 100% real you is on top of that shit.
Wut. I wish a mod would comment as to why specifically; I'm hard-pressed to imagine what she might've said in this thread that was permaban-worthy.
I'm left wondering why we should invest any time participating in this forum if we can get banned at the drop of a hat.
CrudeDiatribe
Member
Because of the people and the discussions. If you end up forming friendships with people here, it's good to have a backup line of communication.
hey_monkey
Banned
I'm glad there is moderation. Nothing ever works perfectly, however.
eta: And I mean, it's not like we have a right to GAF, but... I don't know. Without the banner posting the reason for the ban, it's all speculation, but... I don't know. Nothing much to be said.
eta: And I mean, it's not like we have a right to GAF, but... I don't know. Without the banner posting the reason for the ban, it's all speculation, but... I don't know. Nothing much to be said.
Vermillion
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Most people who have friendships here build them in IRC, to my knowledge.
User 100115
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I've built several friendships here that I've never taken to IRC.
The Artful Dodger
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Most of my friendships on here started from people playing Team Fortress 2 with me.
I don't think I have any NeoGAF friends that don't play TF2...weird. lol.
Vermillion
Banned
I wouldn't be surprised if it was one particular post in this thread.
TUROK
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http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/story/2011-10-10/dr-pepper-for-men/50717788/1This might be slightly off-topic, but often I'll get ads on GAF about some online MMO or something that advertises itself as "FOR MALE GAMERS ONLY." Here are two examples:
Not only is it sexist, but it's an absolutely stupid way to advertise your game. For one, you're alienating female gamers and making them not want to play your game. And secondly, what kind of guy looks at that and thinks "Male gamers only? Now this I gotta play!"
Reverse psychology.
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