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[Winterfang]

As of right now, I have nothing to keep me from keeping my 360, it had free content out the wazoo with all the movies and series I get on Weekends and now that I don't need Gold for YouTube. I'm on heaven.

 

[Game Guru]

What exactly does Android TV offer you? I ask this out of ignorance: I'm totally devoted to Android as a phone OS but I've heard basically nothing about Android TV.

Assumingly, it'll play Android Games on the TV, much as Amazon's Fire TV and the Ouya do, except it uses the Google Play Store since it is an officially sanctioned Google product line. I know Razer is making a gaming-focused model and Google has a controller design for their dev kits for it. It's basically Google's version of a microconsole from what I know about it. If it doesn't play the Android games that smartphones and tablets can, then I will reconsider my desire for it based on that additional knowledge. That is what I know about it, so it, at least, interest me more than either a Fire TV or... heh, an Ouya. Note that neither are on my list, and these are my personal feelings at the moment. I myself am devoted to Android as a mobile OS for smartphones and tablets so having a little STB based on that OS instead of something limited like the Roku is intriguing to me, personally.

 

[rob305]

I disagree with OP, but this sentiment is also garbage.

Whether or not to get next-gen consoles is highly dependent on your budget, which games you're interested in, whether or not the other changes matter to you, and a host of other things.

Your budget is highly depending on what you're willing to sacrifice for your gaming experience.

 

[Zack117]

Anyone who's not making the switch to a next gen console is not a real gamer

This is starting to get embarassing.

 

[Orayn]

Your budget is highly depending on what you're willing to sacrifice for your gaming experience.

Yes, that much is obvious, I just don't see the need to label people as "not true" because their circumstances make them uninterested or unable to invest hundreds of dollars in a new machine. It's the kind of bullshit elitism that makes people not want to identify by the word "gamer" in the first place.

Games are a diverse medium. Not everyone enjoys the same ones, for the same reasons, or with the same level of enthusiasm, but they can still get what they want out of the hobby.

 

[Settin]

Anyone who's not making the switch to a next gen console is not a real gamer

Anyone playing at a resolution below 8K is not a real gamer.

 

[Tidus_Great]

honestly the first year of a new console is generally just about being wowed by the new tech. the good games don't really come until 1-2 years after launch. right now the ps3 is still 1000x better than the ps4 as far as games... but eventually ps4 will catch up and 400 dollars wasn't too expensive so i bought one and have enjoyed some decent games like infamous SS, killzone SF and knack. and i will soon enjoy the last of us remastered and later this year dragon age inquisition, metro redux and a few other titles.

 

[theWB27]

Just personal....I had never been more over a generation than last gen. I was willing to forego, lose those features in order to play even the small amount of next gen games and cross gen games with better visuals.

PS4 lets me watch Netflix....which is all I NEED at this moment. Although I would like the suspend/resume feature to hurry and get here.

 

[Rafterman]

Silly me, I remember when being a gamer meant you played games. I buy new consoles for new games, not for more or better features. I don't really give a shit if my PS4 can't do something my PS3 did, it still has new games and it's not exactly like my PS3 disappeared the moment I bought the new one.

However, if "new and better features" is your reason to buy a new console there are plenty of those in this generations consoles. Just with the PS4 you have play as you download, remote play, streaming, stand-by mode, better graphics, faster downloads, etc. Seriously, the overall experience is so much better on the PS4 than it was on the PS3 it's not funny.

Your "more and better" features assertion is arguably wrong.

 

[elektrixx]

If you can't afford new consoles, this is meant to make you feel better.

Everyone else gets better graphics and newer, cooler stuff.

 

[kvothe]

what games

Nah but seriously I actually returned my PS4 recently because it was so barren of anything that wasn't PC ports or something already on my PS3/360.

Wii U's the only next gen console worth upgrading to right now honestly, then maybe Xbone during November when MC collection and sunset come out.
PS4 seems likes it's gonna be a mid 2015 system at best at this rate.

I never understand people getting rid of their consoles, especially after such little time. When you buy them, you're making an investment so that you can play the consoles exclusive games that will undoubtedly come in the future. If you're so disappointed in the system it drives you to selling/returning it, you're either too shortsighted or you did not research the system well enough before purchase.

 

[sector4]

The only thing I'm really missing from last gen is that neither the XB1 or PS4 allow you to plug an external HDD in and watch videos / play music off it.

 

[Alex]

I don't care about features on consoles, I have a media box, a tablet, an HTPC, etc. I have way too many devices that do any extra functionality significantly better.

It's all software for me... but that's the problem right now, there isn't really anything I want that I can't get on my PC. That's probably fine though, I have a million games to play across too many platforms already, I'm looking to slow it down. I have a PC, 3DS, Vita, PS3 and even a Wii U that I am struggling to make time for.

 

[Biker19]

Because people are tired of last generation consoles in which they are now 7 and a half & 8 and a half years old?

 

[Currygan]

speaking for myself, because the WiiU games I want to play aren't available on the Wii, so

 

[a.wd]

What features specifically are missing for you?

Dlna media playback from network data stores, tbf the Xb1 has better interactivity stuff as my wife and my (very) little sister use the Kinect (360) to do loads of stuff. So mainly the media capabilities. Lack of 3d blue ray is just disappointing, but not deal breaking.

 

[Jprobes]

That light may've been a very bad judgement call, but I think this is only an issue that'll show up if you marathon games or regularly leave the controller unplugged, and with standby charging in some ways it's less of an issue than it was on PS3 since the system NEEDED to be on for charging.

The single die LED in the controller uses a reflector lens that projects and amplifies the light to the back of the controller. Tearing down the controller will reveal the design and after doing so myself, my assumption based on my engineering degrees say that the DS4 light bar is no more of a detriment to its battery life then DS3 (4) single die red LED that designated what player the controller was linked to.

1 single die LED light draws an absolute maximum of 20mA of power, probably significantly less in the DS4 (I would guess between 5-10mA), and cannot drain a 800mA battery in to a charge state in 5-6 hours which is typical for most DS4 controllers.

I would venture a guess and say that the reason why the DS4s controller battery charge is noticeably less then a late model DS3 Controller (they increased battery size throughout its life) is that full audio is probably being streamed to the controller regardless of whether you actually use it or not. The constant stream of audio data is probably the biggest culprit in draining the battery while playing anything.

I don't know how difficult it would be for Sony to disable the sending of audio data to the controller when it is turned off. I would venture a guess that a toggling system would cause too many unknown variables and stability issues and the easiest solution for both the consumer and the programmer was to just make it standard data stream to the controller regardless of use.

I also noticed that watching Netflix/VOD tends to drain the controller battery just as much. I usually suspend the controller or leave in plugged in when using these features.

The only real difference between the DS3/DS4 is the touch pad and audio streaming. The Light bar is just a redesign of the DS3 controller select LEDs (LED technology is the same). I do not think the touch pad is the culprit but it very well may be.

TLDR: New Features have caused the DS4 battery life to decline like persons health on an all fast food diet.

#StopLightBarHate