Does anyone know the specifics on the DLC they have planned? If I go nuts and fill the flash with old game downloads then decide to make room for more by pruning my catalog will I have to pay for the erased game again or is it a one-time fee that gives me the right to DL a particular game again and again as need arises?
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Does anyone know the specifics on the DLC they have planned? If I go nuts and fill the flash with old game downloads then decide to make room for more by pruning my catalog will I have to pay for the erased game again or is it a one-time fee that gives me the right to DL a particular game again and again as need arises?
The Abominable Snowman
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It is. by the same amount as the CPU (1.5x)SantaCruZer said:
It just contradicts everything we've heard regarding RAM, which was that MoSys and NEC (the fabricators) are the only ones providing system memory. The entirety of the system's installed RAM was supposed to be 1T-SRAM, either in its original form or one of its upgraded derivatives.Shogmaster said:
And I have a question for you tech guys...
All of the specs "announcements" we've heard have only given MHz measurements on Broadway CPU, but is it possible that the chip is a dual-core? It's one of those things that I don't think anyone has addressed. I mean, Nintendo spent a LOT of money on R&D for this thing, I'd like to think that we're getting more than a MHz upgrade for all that money spent. And it's not like dual-core tech is unheard of in PowerPC chips, and it definitely syncs up with Nintendo's "low power consumption" jargon.
Shogmaster
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Oblivion said:
It's what's used in X360 and PS3. 700MHz GDDR3 costs MS around $80 for 512MB IIRC.
MikeHaggar
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some of this seems off. the lower than gamecube bandwith for the cpu is the first thing that makes me doubt this(edit: shogmaster proved this wrong). secondly, the claim that composite will be the only output is hard to imagine. if the wii doesn't have a component out, i seriously might not buy one. i don't care if it doesn't do 720p/1080i, but gamecube games looked like ass through composite on my 30" hdtv.
also, the claim that the wii gpu is the same as the gcn's but 'on the average 1.5 times faster' seems bogus... how the hell is it 'on the average'? either the clock speed is 1.5 times faster or it isn't. i also have a hard time believing there will be no pixel shader support whatsoever...
i really wish nintendo would just fess up at this point, but i guess they don't want to give their competitors ammunition. hopefully, once the machine is released, we'll get some true specs for the hardware.
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on the other hand, if this is true, it could be a nice set-up. it'd have 3MB texture cache and framebuffer on the gpu and 24 MB of the mosys ram to hold additional graphical information (textures and models for the area you are in, but are not in current use). on top of that, you have another 64MB for holding all the other game information (AI, sound, etc). Even a gamecube with that expanded memory pool would produce some very nice visuals. I am hoping they've upgraded the gpu in one way or another--some dedicated pixelshader pipes would be nice, even if it's only 4 or 8.
also, the claim that the wii gpu is the same as the gcn's but 'on the average 1.5 times faster' seems bogus... how the hell is it 'on the average'? either the clock speed is 1.5 times faster or it isn't. i also have a hard time believing there will be no pixel shader support whatsoever...
i really wish nintendo would just fess up at this point, but i guess they don't want to give their competitors ammunition. hopefully, once the machine is released, we'll get some true specs for the hardware.
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on the other hand, if this is true, it could be a nice set-up. it'd have 3MB texture cache and framebuffer on the gpu and 24 MB of the mosys ram to hold additional graphical information (textures and models for the area you are in, but are not in current use). on top of that, you have another 64MB for holding all the other game information (AI, sound, etc). Even a gamecube with that expanded memory pool would produce some very nice visuals. I am hoping they've upgraded the gpu in one way or another--some dedicated pixelshader pipes would be nice, even if it's only 4 or 8.
Mr. Spinnington
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Now I'm posting in page 2 of a legendary thread.
RaySpencer
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Juice said:
to late :O
The Abominable Snowman
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YES! YES! ARGUE! ARGUE!!wsippel said:
But the TEV units in the GC weren't nearly as powerful as the vertex/pixel units in the XB, or as flexible...
Mr. Spinnington
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Wait for page 3, bucko.DrEvil said:
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SantaCruZer said:
nvm
BlueTsunami
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Time to light a fire under this threads ass
I heard earlier today that the Wii will actually be an addon for Googles new console, CPU and GPU both provided by...get this...AM ****EN D
I heard earlier today that the Wii will actually be an addon for Googles new console, CPU and GPU both provided by...get this...AM ****EN D
lol you just highlighted my spoiler
They are supposed to be very flexible and able to do pretty much the same effects, but also so hard to use/ different from standard shader hardware that almost nobody ever really bothered to exploit them. I don't know, that's what Eggebrecht once said. Someone else said pretty much the same in an old interview (on Gamasutra, IIRC)...The Abominable Snowman said:
Shogmaster
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HomerSimpson-Man
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Y2Kevbug11 said:
Yes, having some sort of shader support ain't the same as having as good as level. If it was all fine and dany you would think devs would more dominate bump mapping support on GC or something like it's Xbox counterpart. When it comes to things like normal mapping it's pratically in the same ballpart as PS2 ability in it....as in it's pretty terrible. I don't think barely any game if any at all used normal mapping of any kind on GC.
soundwave05
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Isn't progressive scan (480p) impossible over an analog output?
It is for DVD players AFAIK.
It is for DVD players AFAIK.
Mr. Spinnington
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BlueTsunami said:Time to light a fire under this threads ass
I heard earlier today that the Wii will actually be an addon for Googles new console, CPU and GPU both provided by...get this...AM ****EN D
lol you just highlighted my spoiler
no, I just quoted you to say I love you. lol, look at you keep highlighting my spoiler lololololololololololololol
MikeHaggar
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Shogmaster said:
yeah, i already edited my post shogmaster. that's what i get for taking another poster at his word and not bothering to check it out for myself
VultureDude
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Eddz said:They still haven't told us what that orange port is for, though.
oh, you mean the virtual reality transmitter hookup that will make you say "wow."
BlueTsunami
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Mr. Spinnington said:
Shit, I just had to know what you wrote
>:O
The Abominable Snowman
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All I know is I'm going somewhere, and in 2 hours this thread better be 4 going on 5 pages at the least, with at least 5MB in images arguing Wii vs other consoles (Xbox most likely...LOL)
There also better be arguments about sales and whatnot, regular GAF warmongering
If this is not so, Bush will declare war against the US.
There also better be arguments about sales and whatnot, regular GAF warmongering
If this is not so, Bush will declare war against the US.
soundwave05
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The Abominable Snowman said:
Meh ... I think most people have accepted the Wii would be somewhere along these specs a long time ago. The only thing to "argue" about are a few details about the list that seem a tad off (the analog TV out, the type of RAM).
I feel I need to say something in this momentous thread, but all I can come up with is:
Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under.
You, err... I've got these beans, they're magic beans.Bluemercury said:
Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under.
thestopsign
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Oblivion said:And if it's dual core or not. No one's answered that yet.
Would it really make it that much more powerful? I've never understood anything like this, and I don't intend to any time soon.
chinmonster
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Get your peripheral (sp?) on.GhaleonEB said:
Smiles and Cries
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oh okay so these are real?
soundwave05
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Liquid3 said:Gamecube never had 512mb and built in wifi so 199$.
Yeah then again, the GCN also was being sold with a free game, microphone, and two controllers for $99.99 *a year ago*.
And 512MB flash memory cost peanuts especailly at a mass manufacturing level. WiFi is in the DS/PSP too ... I don't think it's as expensive as a component as people think.
chinmonster
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Will a component-out cord be available on the date of the Wii launch?
YourMaster
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Stopsign said:
It's like having two Einsteins thinking about their relatives instead of just one. They think just as fast, but have twice the mirrors.
Simple enough?
Stopsign said:
I don't know all that much, but I think it depends on how well / how much developers use a little thing called multithreading
Bluemercury
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Mmmkay said:I feel I need to say something in this momentous thread, but all I can come up with is:
You, err... I've got these beans, they're magic beans.
Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under.
???
AndoCalrissian
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Why isn't the speaker in the controller mentioned?
EternalDarko
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nah
soundwave05
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Liquid3 said:
The controller can't cost more than $40 or so.
Otherwise how is Nintendo supposed to sell seperate controllers? No chance in hell they would ever take a loss on an accessorie.
The accelorometers in the Wiimote cost a Nintendo a whopping $1 each according to a prior report ... I don't think the whole idea of the Wiimote ever would've been approved by the suits at Nintendo unless the controller was cost effective.
Certainly I think it costs more than a regular ol' controller, but I'm not buying that it's like $80 or something. The cost of Bluetooth has dropped dramatically these past few years, as has WiFi and flash memory. These aren't exactly cost-killing components.
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