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[CharlieDigital]

!!!!!

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2227

As written previously, the Wii will ship with a PowerPC 750GX CPU jointly developed between IBM and Nintendo. Nintendo says the codename of the processor is Broadway and was manufactured using a 90nm fabrication process. IBM claims the 750GX GPU is based on the 750FX processor designed by the company several years ago. The chip can run at frequencies up to 1.1GHz and includes a 4-way set-associative single core with 1MB L2 cache.

On Nintendo's official Wii hardware "specifications" page, the GPU of the console is listed as still being developed with ATI. Whether this means that the GPU is still being tuned or there was simply a grammatical error on the site is up in the air. Very little is known about the Wii's GPU, codenamed Hollywood except that it is part of ATI's R520 family.

 

[jman2050]

Then why do the games look like crap? Are the current dev-kits THAT gimped?

 

[Doc Holliday]

r520??? Isn't that whats used in an ati X1800? That's a lot better than i thought, if this true.

 

[Polari]

I don't see that on Nintendo's website.

If true though, good news of course.

 

[gofreak]

The r520 bit seems to be their own speculation, and doesn't fit with the descriptions of power to date.

 

[OmegaRed]

Woah, those specs are pretty good. So why DO the games look like Xbox 1.5 stuff?

 

[CharlieDigital]

Some R520 specs here:

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/video/r520-preview.html

X1800 = yes.

 

[Kifimbo]

Woah, those specs are pretty good. So why DO the games look like Xbox 1.5 stuff?

Old dev kits based on GameCube hardware?

 

[Error]

Woah, those specs are pretty good. So why DO the games look like Xbox 1.5 stuff?

maybe that's why Mario Galaxy blew everything else away.

what happened to Retro though

 

[Polari]

Woah, those specs are pretty good. So why DO the games look like Xbox 1.5 stuff?

Keep in mind they don't actually provide any references. It's quite possibly just rubbish they've made up.

 

[lancubap]

What ? What ? WHAT ???????????'

No, no, no, no. Calm down....Ok. A moment please:

This time, ARE WE SURE 100% ABOUT THESE SPECS ??

Woah, those specs are pretty good. So why DO the games look like Xbox 1.5 stuff?

Another good question: probably only Nintendo worked on new specs and Third Parties on an Upper Gamecube: this could be a possibility !

 

[Cold-Steel]

Then why do the games look like crap? Are the current dev-kits THAT gimped?

:O

Seriously, the games do look completely gimped.

Development kits must be (honestly) GameCube ones because we're not seeing the results yet at all.

 

[Rocked]

Yes, third parties were using GameCube kits until very recently. That's well known.

 

[TheGreatDave]

I don't see how they can say they got their info from the press site, yet there's no info on it about this.

 

[MrToughPants]

maybe that's why Mario Galaxy blew everything else away.

what happened to Retro though

:lol

This thread should be good.

 

[Stench]

what the hell is going on here

 

[maynerd]

How much better is this than what was initially thought?

Wasn't the previously leaked spec putting the Wii at a GC1.5?

What do these specs make it?

 

[Beezy]

Um...what does this all mean and how does it compare to PS3 and the 360? Someone get Panajev in here.

 

[Robobandit]

I don't believe the R520 bit..

 

[moesyzslak]

What ? What ? WHAT ???????????'

No, no, no, no. Calm down....Ok. A moment please:

This time, ARE WE SURE 100% ABOUT THESE SPECS ??



Another good question: probably only Nintendo worked on new specs and Third Parties on an Upper Gamecube: this could be a possibility !

Not 100%...

This is weird, I remember reading the Wii GPU was similar to a x1600 video card. Now its x1800, if this is true then that is pretty impressive.

 

[lancubap]

:lol

This thread should be good.

This thread WIILL be good ! :lol

 

[EternalDarko]

Yes, third parties were using GameCube kits until very recently. That's well known.

truth

 

[Rocked]

How much better is this than what was initially thought?

Wasn't the previously leaked spec putting the Wii at a GC1.5?

What do these specs make it?

Yes, someone explain for us simpletons.

And Mario Galaxy DOES look a lot better than the other games for some reason. I never thought Mario would be the title that impressed me most in that department.

 

[PolyGone]

How much better is this than what was initially thought?

Wasn't the previously leaked spec putting the Wii at a GC1.5?

What do these specs make it?

2-3x more powerful than a GC, like they've always said...

 

[Calidor]

Then why do the games look like crap? Are the current dev-kits THAT gimped?

because devkits ain't final and games were developed on Gamecube based kits?

 

[Polari]

What ? What ? WHAT ???????????'

No, no, no, no. Calm down....Ok. A moment please:

This time, ARE WE SURE 100% ABOUT THESE SPECS ??



Another good question: probably only Nintendo worked on new specs and Third Parties on an Upper Gamecube: this could be a possibility !

It's like isamu without the funny.

For the last time people, the article provides NO REFERENCES. It's probably fiction.

 

[Dracos]

Notice how we haven't seen any major Japanese 3rd party software yet.

 

[Newzboyz99]

Well Nintendo themselves have never usually been at the forefront of graphics. Zelda is a GC/Wii game, etc. Most of 3rd parties have been basically developing Xbox 1.5 type games with their GC development kits, etc.

Amirite?

 

[OmegaRed]

CPU: PowerPC CPU (code-named "Broadway"). Made with a 90 nm SOI CMOS process, jointly developed with and manufactured by IBM.

Graphics Processing Unit: Being developed with ATI.

From Nintendo's site. I wonder where they got their info from.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

I haven't been able to keep up with the Nintendo screens. Someone please show me the most impressive Rev game shown thus far. Please.

 

[KINGMOKU]

This makes ZERO SENSE.


How can Tony Hawk look like ASS, and Mario Galaxy look spectacular?


WTF is going on here. R520 Makes NO sense AT ALL.


I am seriously getting angry here.


Maybe, like others have said, Galaxy is running on true hardware, and the rest are not? In the Red steel update hands on, they said that the game was running on Gamecube hardware,and on a "target PC"


CONFUSION SETTING IN.

 

[MattCoz]

The ONLY specs released about these chips is that they are built on a 90nm process. I have no idea where they got their info about the 750GX and R520.

Here is what was released:

CPU: PowerPC CPU (code-named "Broadway"). Made with a 90 nm SOI CMOS process, jointly developed with and manufactured by IBM.

Graphics Processing Unit: Being developed with ATI.

and on the Japan site:

* CPU PowerPC CPU (Broadway) 90 nm SOI CMOS process
< Cooperation design > IBM
* GPU System LSI (Hollywood) 90 nm DRAM mixed loading CMOS process
< Cooperation design > ATI

 

[FtsH]

i dont understand, just tell how many pikmins does this equal to.

 

[TheGreatDave]

How many games have we seen from EAD, that are exclusive to Wii?

I mean, Mario looks really quite impressive, do we have anything else they've made that should look good, but doesn't?

 

[PolyGone]

:O

Seriously, the games do look completely gimped.

Development kits must be (honestly) GameCube ones because we're not seeing the results yet at all.

looking at the baseball/tennis games, its obvious they could've easily replaced those characters with high poly Mario characters. But they didn't. They want the focus to be on the controls, and how new the controls are. Better graphics will come later (I hope).

 

[OmegaRed]

Yes, someone explain for us simpletons.

And Mario Galaxy DOES look a lot better than the other games for some reason. I never thought Mario would be the title that impressed me most in that department.

I'm guessing EAD are using the final kits..

 

[Lionheart]

The GPU bit seems speculation indeed and they don't say the chip in the Wii runs at 1.1 Ghz, just that it could. There could very well be a lower clocked version in Wii for lower temperature or so?

 

[Striek]

There are no Wii specs in the thread. Just speculation. Also, upto isn't the same as equals.

Anyone expecting and X1800 (the ~equivalent of a PS3 or 360 GPU) is insane.

 

[Calidor]

Well Nintendo themselves have never usually been at the forefront of graphics. Zelda is a GC/Wii game, etc. Most of 3rd parties have been basically developing Xbox 1.5 type games with their GC development kits, etc.

Amirite?

To be honest, yes you are

 

[lancubap]

From Nintendo's site. I wonder where they got their info from.

Ok. This is confirmed. I have read this me too, but still without numbers: so these CPU & GPU's specs are probably not real !

 

[bachikarn]

Oh great! Now every delusional Nintendo fanboy is going to think that graphics will get A LOT better and when they don't they are going to bitch and 'turn in their Nintendo Jackets.'

Awesome.

 

[Polari]

I haven't been able to keep up with the Nintendo screens. Someone please show me the most impressive Rev game shown thus far. Please.

 

[CharlieDigital]

The GPU bit seems speculation indeed and they don't say the chip in the Wii runs at 1.1 Ghz, just that it could. There could very well be a lower clocked version in Wii for lower temperature or so?

Makes perfect sense that it can throttle CPU speed for standby (WiiConnect).

 

[suaveric]

One thins that is legit is that it uses wireless B and G, which is nice. I wish the DSlite was upgraded to G.

 

[lancubap]

There are no Wii specs in the thread. Just speculation. Also, upto isn't the same as equals.

Anyone expecting and X1800 (the ~equivalent of a PS3 or 360 GPU) is insane.

EDIT: the chip corresponf to the X1800 familyof course. Sorry.

 

[Frank the Great]

people still give a shit about wii's graphics?

when will you guys learn v_v

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

You know why galaxy looks so good? Cause there's ZERO enviroment to render.

 

[Shogmaster]

Shogmaster next gen prediction score card:

Rev/Wii specs speculation: PPC 750GX and X1300Pro - RIGHT ON THE MONEY
PS3 casing: Needs more vents and bigger size! - NOSTROFUCKINGDOMUS
X360 will compete with PS3 toe to toe: SIXTH SENTHASTIC

WHY AM I SO FUCKING GOOD?!?!

 

[littlewig]

This is what Nintendo has on their website

The Specs: Wii boasts 512 megabytes of internal flash memory, two USB 2.0 ports and built-in Wi-Fi capability. A bay for an SD memory card will let players expand the internal flash memory. Design was optimized with state-of-the-art processing technologies that minimize power consumption, keep the console compact and enable the "sleepless" WiiConnect24 mode.

CPU: PowerPC CPU (code-named "Broadway"). Made with a 90 nm SOI CMOS process, jointly developed with and manufactured by IBM.

Graphics Processing Unit: Being developed with ATI.

Other Features: Four ports for classic Nintendo GameCube controllers. Two slots for Nintendo GameCube Memory Cards. An AV Multi-output port for component, composite or S-video.

http://wii.nintendo.com/hardware.html

 

[DaCocoBrova]

That's it? (sadface)