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[Zombie James]

GAF's moving both fast and slow so please lock if there's already a thread on this:

Update: In a follow-up, Nintendo Japan has posted on Twitter that there's a price to pay if two Gamepads are active. Frame rates drop to about 30 fps if two are active; any games that really want that extra controller won't be quite as glass-smooth. On the upside, it's possible to switch one off with a smooth transition; there won't be a need for theatrics just to switch to a solo game.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/nintendo-two-wii-u-gamepads-will-work-on-one-system/

 

[Tarin02543]

What if the game is running at 30 frames anyway? Each player gets 15?

 

[VanWinkle]

Aren't most console games already 30 fps? I don't get it.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Is that implying that all games will be 60fps otherwise?

I kinda doubt that.

 

[Holy Wars]

Nintendo fucking blew it.

 

[- J - D -]

Oh my god.

 

[Vitacat]

Wii U looks like a mess to me. Last Nintendo console I bought was Gamecube, which might just be my last Nintendo console ever. Plus F-Zero is dead. *sigh*

 

[Interfectum]

LOL

 

[Moaradin]

Aren't most console games 30fps anyways?

 

[chubigans]

Just like the NES, eh Reggie?

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

We need some clarifying on this. On the surface, this sounds horrible though.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

Aren't most console games 30fps anyways?

Yes. Those consoles from 2005 and 2006.

 

[Ridley327]

Aren't most console games 30fps anyways?

Nintendo's games tend to be 60 more often than not.

 

[kadotsu]

The magic of multiplexing

 

[Rich!]

Aren't most console games 30fps anyways?

Not F Zero.

 

[Good Job Bob]

..Terrible.

 

[Kibbles]

Aren't most console games 30fps anyways?

Mario kart Wii split screen is 60fps, no?

 

[CrankyJay]

LOL

 

[elongation]

This is only to be expected. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs to re-evaluate their expectations of console hardware

 

[Zoramon089]

I don't see why people are surprised there's a performance hit...also, I don't know how you can say all games will drop to 30fps...that doesn't really make logical sense

 

[Rad-]

ROFL

 

[Death Dealer]

Wait... a second controller or a second tablet thing ?

I think this was expected.

 

[erpg]

I think the more interesting news is that many WiiU games may run at 60 FPS.

 

[KevinCow]

I'm pretty sure they mean the framerate on the screen. Like the Wii U can only send out 60fps, so if you're using 2 controllers, it has to split that framerate.

Not that no game will be able to run at higher than 30fps if there are two controllers.

 

[Aeana]

Yes. Those consoles from 2005 and 2006.

You're fooling yourself if you think that any new console going forward is going to have a majority share of 60 FPS games. Developers will choose 30 FPS to squeeze in more eye candy, it's guaranteed.

 

[Graphics Horse]

What if the game is running at 30 frames anyway? Each player gets 15?

No lol.

It's a technical limitation.

Frames are broadcast at 60hz, each pad shows alternate frames. This method was suggested by one of their patents I think.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

:|

 

[Mondriaan]

The magic of multiplexing

I wonder if this is what they meant.

If it's just switching off between the two controllers, the frame rate on the controller screens is going to halve. Or, at least that's my read on it.

 

[Baconsammy]

Aren't most console games already 30 fps? I don't get it.

Have you ever played Mario Kart or Fzero?

 

[base shagohod]

Is that implying that all games will be 60fps otherwise?

I kinda doubt that.

This.
Anyway, I'm just glad you can even use 2 at the same time.
Was getting kinda bummed last year when we thought it was one per system.

 

[MikeE21286]

I can see few games supporting two wii pads.

It'll be the sixaxis of the Wii U

 

[Mistle]

Wow

 

[Suairyu]

I don't see why people are surprised there's a performance hit...also, I don't know how you can say all games will drop to 30fps...that doesn't really make logical sense

Sure it does. They'll be referring to the internal timings of the thing.

 

[Kunan]

Yes. Those consoles from 2005 and 2006.

Will be nextgen too. 60FPS is always achievable, but not many will sacrifice visual fidelity for it.

 

[bobbytkc]

You guys are probably interpreting it wrongly. They most likely mean that when 2 controllers are active, the framerate on each screen is halved from a maximum of 60 to 30 each, since they are now sharing the bandwidth.

 

[CSX]

my mind is blown. nintendo is killing itself

 

[raven777]

In general it doesnt really matter, but for games like racing game I think it matter a lot.

 

[maquiladora]

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I said this before and just now in Steam chat, those pads are not going to be free. This is further disappointing news that will deter me from playing MP games.

 

[entremet]

You're fooling yourself if you think that any new console going forward is going to have a majority share of 60 FPS games. Developers will choose 30 FPS to squeeze in more eye candy, it's guaranteed.

.
Finally, some logic.

 

[Tucah]

Nintendo is killing any and all interest I had in the system today. It's pretty impressive really.

 

[Massa]

Games that use two gamepads will be 60fps.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Yikes.

 

[Easy_D]

So if 2 = 30, 1 = 60 then one screen doing simple 2D UI shit =..90!? 90 FPS GAMING FOLKS.

Only on WiiU

 

[deadlast]

com'on Nintendo give us the option to not have that stupid pad.

 

[Brashnir]

Wait... a second gamepad or a second tablet thing ?

Gamepad is what they're calling the tablet thing.

 

[revolverjgw]

Totally worth the worthless gimmick inputs

 

[linkboy]

And now you know why this exists.

 

[CrushDance]

Yes. Those consoles from 2005 and 2006.

Ice cold.

 

[Diablohead]

Unless they make a system which has to sell for $599 they can't beast the thing out with uber parts, with whatever power they have having a choice is at least better then not having one.