Doctor Ninja
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And sadly the Dreamcast arguably had better games library...
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Wii U is now as old as the DreamCast when it got discontinued, sold worse
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SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
DreamCast only lasted that long...? Sure felt like a lot longer, back then.
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BundysFeet
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So the Wii U is now at 6 million or so after 16 months.
Jimmyfenix
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On topic Yes there are two different situations but that is still a poor number for the Wii U. It will over take the Dreamcast but when ?
That number is shipped who knows how much it has sold now.
Sega had the Sega Saturn, Sega 32x, Sega CD, Gamegear(not sure if it was a failure but I remember hating mine), and the Dreamcast. And the DC was a pretty revolutionary console, it just came too late and couldn't save them. Nintendo just had the Wii U as a failure. The 3Ds almost, but they pulled through on that one. We'll have to see 2 more Wii U like scenarios for Nintendo to go 3rd party.
Spieler Eins
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Yeah. Great variety including the most ambitious title of it's time, Shenmue.
WiiU has by the numbers platformer sequels, minigames without an actual audience left and barely a handful of decent niche games. There has yet to be a showcase title for the system, one and a half years in.
Dreamcast had the most creative output of any console in that space of time. Sega gave all their internal studios complete freedom to do what they wanted.
Phantasy Star Online alone was groundbreaking.
Yeah, lot of people forget that the bad blood between the NA and Japan branches contributed towards the withdraw from console business.
schaft0620
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They are going to have to kill it at E3 or there will be a run on the Wii U.
CouchMaster
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I still have my Dreamcast. It still works.
I wonder if PSO servers are still up?
quick edit: Nope. Bummer.
I wonder if PSO servers are still up?
quick edit: Nope. Bummer.
Suzushiiro
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It's immortalized due to being a console that did everything right but died anyway, almost entirely due to the fuckups of its predecessors. Wii U is almost an inversion in that sense- a console that did everything wrong, but will likely wind up "living" through most of the generation off of the war chest of its predecessor.
1st Course
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Yes it had extremely short life.
ComputerMKII
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What's with the Camel Case, OP?
DarkoMaledictus
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Dreamcast was amazing hardware and had some amazing games too btw...
nah
VMU was neat but what else?
Internet? even sega had been working with online gaming with the sega channel on genesis and the net link on Saturn.
garbage controller? again sadly sega had the rug pulled out from under them by Nintendo who popularized garbage controllers with the N64
Moon_frogger
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Hahaha
Malio
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You're right, "as long as they have to". Which unfortunately I see as, they aren't going to put any more effort into it than they have to. Maybe 3-4 more must-have games from them before they hang up the Wii U with good riddance and introduce that hybrid handheld/console thing. The rest of the support on Wii U will come from indies...and that's fucking sad.
We all know that it has been a colossal failure up until this point. No news there. But thankfully, Nintendo is sitting on a dragon's hoard of gold and can more than afford to make the best of it. Sega did not have that option.
LSauchelli
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What's Wii U's attach rate these days? I remember reading that Dreamcast's was awful because of piracy.
Both consoles have some amazing games, I wouldn't be so quick to say that the Dreamcast has a better library.
Both consoles have some amazing games, I wouldn't be so quick to say that the Dreamcast has a better library.
A point that's been made every single day up to this point. We knew this in the middle of last year.
Neuromancer
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I guess as a WiiU owner it's a really good thing Nintendo has a big war chest to fall back on until they figure out their next move, so at least well get some good games between now and when they take it out behind the shed.
Infernal Monkey
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The PC version works on custom servers.
I wouldn't want to play PSO on a 56k modem, anyway.
De-mon
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Well.. Soul Calibur, Shenmue I & II, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, many Capcom & SNK fighting games (Marvel vs. Capcom, Jojo, The King of Fighters, Street Fighter III), Power Stone 1 & 2, Dead or Alive 2, Crazy Taxi 1 & 2, Daytona USA, Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, Phantasy Star Online, Grandia 2, Metropolis Street Racer, Ready 2 Rumble Boxing, Skies of Arcadia, Space Channel 5, Virtua Striker 2, Virtua Tennis, Rez, and the best ports of many multiplatform games (Tony Hawk, Rayman 2, Soul Reaver, RE 2 & 3...).
List of Dreamcast games
The Abominable Snowman
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BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Yup, Dreamcast got shelved because Sega didn't have an money. Nintendo has plenty of money.
Shikamaru Ninja
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The DreamCast was an ambitious system with a plethora of great games. In comparison to the Wii U, the DreamCast was clearly the cutting edge console on the market for almost a year and a half. I still remember seeing Sonic Adventure and just being blown away by the visuals. The DreamCast was also the first console to bring console online gaming to the masses.
I mean. The DreamCast amassed more first-party online games during this span of time than Nintendo has on the Wii U. That's embarrassing!
I mean. The DreamCast amassed more first-party online games during this span of time than Nintendo has on the Wii U. That's embarrassing!
With 3DS not doing as good as they hope, can Nintendo even afford wasting the money they have on Wii U?
Sega didn't learn. Nintendo can.
metalslimer
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They can afford to do whatever the fuck they want right now. Whether or not it is good business is another question.
now wheres the updated image of this..
Every time I see a chalkboard for this gen reminds me how much it must have hurt the Sony guys last time around.
Sorry, Nintendo but the WiiU is done. Let's just get it over with and move on.
It wasn't a data heavy game, bad lag was pretty rare, even for the 33.6k folks.
Spieler Eins
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Their 10 year QOL plan despite all current ,,blue ocean'' games being dead on arrival suggests that they'll never learn under the current leadership.
Freeman
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Wow. That makes just makes no sense. Hopefully it was sarcasm.
Dreamwriter
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This comparison is 100% meaningless. The Dreamcast was not discontinued due to poor sales - in fact, it was poor sales that helped it survive as long as it did. Sega was losing money on every Dreamcast sold, they couldn't afford to do so due to the financial situation the Saturn caused, and they ran out of money.
Also, they didn't just discontinue the Dreamcast, they went out of business. People always bring up Sega choosing to go software-only for third parties, and say Nintendo may do so, but what really happened was Sega went out of business, were purchased by another company, and that company didn't want to be in the console business, they bought Sega for their arcade machine expertise and their vast library of IP. They didn't know what to do with the console software side of the company, so they let them keep doing what they knew best, but for other consoles.
Also, they didn't just discontinue the Dreamcast, they went out of business. People always bring up Sega choosing to go software-only for third parties, and say Nintendo may do so, but what really happened was Sega went out of business, were purchased by another company, and that company didn't want to be in the console business, they bought Sega for their arcade machine expertise and their vast library of IP. They didn't know what to do with the console software side of the company, so they let them keep doing what they knew best, but for other consoles.
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