Yeah, I should have been more clear. It can pass through 5.1 DD, not PCM.
So I don't get why no optical is a problem. Wii U would need to support DD first, then you can worry about an optical connector.
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Wii U - No optical audio connector? Nintendo. Fix this!!
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Yeah, I should have been more clear. It can pass through 5.1 DD, not PCM.
So I don't get why no optical is a problem. Wii U would need to support DD first, then you can worry about an optical connector.
So, your method will not work.
err.. the Wii U has a headphone jack on the controller.
If the WiiU outputs 6 channel PCM and does not support DoblyDigital an optical connector does you no good anyway.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Semantics. It's the same thing.
We know.
True. I'm assuming most people thought it could output at least AC3 as every component under the sun can.
Reallink
Member
Typically higher end AVR's will have features like OSD overlays that absolutely introduce 16-32ms of video lag. Lower end models often lack such functionality and are generally less of a gamble if lag is a concern. You definitely want to avoid AVR's with OSD overlays, or make sure they have an option to bypass it that has actually been tested, measured, and timed by actual owners.
UltimateIke
Member
That is only for the audio coming from the speakers on the gamepad, right? If you are playing a game on the TV, I bet that headphone jack won't help.
The Xtortionist
Member
I won't settle for stereo when I can get virtual surround on 360 and PS3.
That is a good point.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Dunno... I'd much rather have a good stereo signal than some shitty downmix.
Dead Prince
Banned
hdmi 1.2 amirite.
Yeah...virtual surround sound can be worse then a good stereo mix.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Supposedly, it supports 5.1 PCM, which is the truest 5.1. So that's a plus.
The Xtortionist
Member
Games like Battlefield, Dead Space, and God of War sound fucking amazing through my DT990s and Mixamp. Crisp, clear audio, good bass, and accurate positioning.
You do get true 5.1 on the Wii U. It's just not compressed with Dolby Digital. Hell, that could mean it sounds even better.
I got hdmi inputs on my pionner receiver too but when the baby sleep I use my a50.By the way I was talking about the tech inside WiiU...
Hahaha how sad is it that I looked at your pic and immediately thought "ooh, a Pio like mine, wonder if it's a xx19 or later?"
I waited and waited for a good, cheap AVR to come out with HDMI repeating a few years back and am so glad I did. I picked up the Pio 919AHK shortly after it's release in I think 2009 and have been so happy with it as an entry level AVR. Only now am I starting to think about replacing it, and that's only because I've been out of HDMI inputs for a while now (currently cable box, PS3 and AppleTV using all 3) and am thinking about next year when new consoles start coming out.
Man I still remember getting everything hooked up for the first time, turning my PS3 to bitstream and smiling at the DTS-HD MA on the Pioneer display. Greatest A/V placebo effect ever? Maybe.
Oh, okay. So how would I go about using my optical-only speakers with the Wii U's HDMI? If I use some sort of transfer doohickey, will it still be 5.1? Sorry, I'm not much of a technophile when it comes to this stuff.
Clearly a licensing factor rather than tech. But having the WiiU support the traditional Audio Codecs is a a way more valid point than having optical output. As for Cans I just use My Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 plugged into my Receiver since it has Dolby Headphone and call it a day. Receiver is already doing the work why not let it handle the Cans too.
No. Unfortunately, you won't be able to get 5.1
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
There's no such thing as optical-only speakers. What hardware are you using to get sound, exactly?
The Xtortionist
Member
Turned off Dolby Headphone on my amp just for fun. Felt like I lost a huge chunk of the soundstage. No thanks.
Thing is, I don't think there's anything wrong with DTS or DD5.1. Most people probably can't hear the difference. Not having optical (Especially if they don't do DPLII over steree like the Wii) is a right pain in the arse for me. it seems like there's enough people with older equipment that will require upgrading or some workaround.
I'm using Logitech Z906s. They have regular sound inputs as well, sure, but the only way to get 5.1 is with the optical, isn't it?
Whaaaat?
But I can if I use just straight HDMI without transferring between it and optical, right? WhyyysfjgjdgfsfdhfsdI'm using Logitech Z906s. They have regular sound inputs as well, sure, but the only way to get 5.1 is with the optical, isn't it?
Whaaaat?
Because Nintendo doesn't want to spend an additional $1 per console.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, if you want 5.1, you'd need optical. Since that's not an option... best thing you could probably do is just use RCA and if you really want it to use all your speakers, use the speakers' surround mode.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Well you are missing out on a mic if you use regular cans when gaming online.
For crying out loud Nintendo.... any reason why the 5.1 doesn't work if you use a HDMI to Optical cable?
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Are we joking here? Wii U doesn't even support Dolby Digital? Basic ole Dolby Digital? Audio codec supported by $20 DVD players, Dolby Digital? Holy cow. This will have next to no effect on the general population that won't even understand the problem until after they sunk the cost, but that is crazy.
I mean I have the capable audio equipment to take advantage of 5.1 PCM, but wow....talk about cheap. I can't even wrap my head around that.
I mean I have the capable audio equipment to take advantage of 5.1 PCM, but wow....talk about cheap. I can't even wrap my head around that.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Lack of bandwidth with optical means you would only be able to get 2.0 PCM at best.
Choppasmith
Member
That's how it sounds to me as well.
I think my only problem is that I think my Receiver (an Onkyo) only has three HDMI outputs which are all being taken (PS3, HTPC, and DirecTV HD DVR) but I think I'll have to "downgrade" one of the systems to component/optical, probably the HD DVR)
I can understand people being inconvenienced like me above (with no HDMI ports at all even) but I find it a little odd that if people want to be THAT anal about Sound, I would think they would have upgraded to something with HDMI considering its bandwidth for DTSHD/THD/Uncompressed PCM audio for Blurays and such.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
You woefully underestimate the general population, who's idea of a sound system are those Home Theaters in a Box with the built in blu ray/DVD, and no HDMI input.
Edit: Again there are DVD players that are $20 that support Dolby Digital, we should all expect a little more out of a $300+ console.
The lack of optical audio out is basically making me buy this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0076R7K26/?tag=neogaf0e-20 .
I'll need an HDMI switcher as well, though.
My old Samsung HTIB has lasted me for more than a decade.
I'll need an HDMI switcher as well, though.
My old Samsung HTIB has lasted me for more than a decade.
They don't have a choice. You can't get DVD certification without supporting DD.
loborzelda
Neo Member
I have an old Pioneer HTS-GS1 receiver with my PS3 connected via optical, and when I play back the LOST season 3 blu-ray (which has linear PCM 5.1 audio) it does play back as true 5.1. The receiver shows that the signal is DTS, but it's not. Although a few years ago before one of many PS3 updates this would not work, the sound would play back as stereo. So the Wii U's 5.1 PCM might work using an HDMI to optical adapter like this one...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2#description
...maybe?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2#description
...maybe?
Gah. I've probably had my HTIB just as long or longer. It has served me well. I hate the idea of having to retire it, when I probably won't be able to hear a difference.
Teletraan1
Banned
Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with DD5.1 or DTS either. They both sound great to me. I am sure LPCM sounds better but the positional audio is what makes it for me. Hearing an enemy walking around in the tight confines of Dark Souls and knowing where they are by sound is awesome.
I was looking at some possible upgrades and they seem like downgrades with HDMI ports on them unless I spend a lot lol. Oh well. I posted my concerns in the WiiU Now in HD thread and got absolutely shredded by Nintendo fans. I was told that I was part of a small segment of potential WiiU buyers and Nintendo didn't have to cater to me. Everyone else will get this home and not even care. My issues were listed as absurd.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Off topic (slightly), but I am a big proponent of component style systems. If you are going to buy a tidy all in one system get something like the Denon, Yamaha, or Onkyo systems where you get a legit receiver and speakers. That way if you have to update later all you would have to do is replace just the receiver, and keep the existing speakers. On top of that you can upgrade speakers and subwoofers at will.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Complete non-sequitur.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Did the ps3 do dts/ac3 pass through? Can't remember, but I thought it was mostly PCM out.