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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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I don't want a controller that looks nice, I want a controller that I can hold without killing my hands. (Not saying it's not the case of your re-design, just saying that comfort > look.)
-Pyromaniac-
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I wish we'd get more rumours on any controller changes if any for the final version. Perhaps they haven't come close to finalizing it yet.
Just that color alone wouldn't differentiate, there is also a black Wii
Freezie KO
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I have no problems with the slide pads on 3DS. My problem with the WiiTab is that it's not the Wiimote+nunchuk.
AceBandage
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If Ideaman though it was necessary to mention it, I'm sure it's something significant.
... Right?
TheCongressman1
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Oh, I agree that functionality comes first, but it's not at all impossible to make something comfortable look nice.
I wish I could test the comfort of my design, but it would be expensive to make a model of it, lol.
Ah wish he would give us a bigger hint. E3 seems so far away.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm sure ideaman can say whether or not it's noteworthy or tiny changes can't he?
Hey ideaman we summon thou.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
That's what I thought at first, but the images are to scale, and the screens are about (if not) the same size. Seems like what they've wanted to do is bring thumbs closer to the touch pad, trimming width to draw the analogue sticks closer in. The screen remains the same size, but in order to fit the analogue sticks they've had to move buttons directly below. And, probably because they felt it looked nice and maybe made it easier again to switch between the touch pad and the screen, they've turned the analogue sticks into pads.
It literally looks like a controller designed for people who don't use controllers.
We need one of those skyline spotlights with his silhouette for situations like this..
abstract alien
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Still no official date for Nintendo's conference right?
Yeah, it is a little weird that we don't have one yet. They revealed the date for Wii's full unveiling 4 or 5 months before E3.
We got last year's date during the first week of May.
Chances are it will be the same this year.
shadyspace
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MisterHero
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I'd love to see something like that someday, because you could just replace a stick if it brokeI'd like to see a modular controller, like one of the 3DS prototypes:
That way we could place the Dpad/Sticks/buttons where we wanted to depending on the game being played.
Alright, everyone was warned, time to break out this chestnut YET AGAIN:
FFS, LOOK AT THE CONTROLLER AGAIN, FOLKS.
Compared to THIS:
3 things that immediately are visibly apparent:
- rubber circle for the ability to grip that isn't present on the 3DS pad
- protrudes from the unit MUCH more than the 3DS pad, offering better leverage
- wider recessed circle surrounding the pad, providing greater accuracy and range of motion than the 3DS pad
So let's please please PLEASE stop acting like it's the same god-damn thing when it's clearly, even just from VISUAL INSPECTION, leaps and bounds better.
So first off, you were stating things that were factually inaccurate, and then when corrected about it having a grip similar to the nun chuck, which you already praised for feeling comfortable and with adequate grip, it still sucks.... just wanted to throw that out there.
Second, you have never held the controller yet you talk of MISTAKES? It's not a mistake until you KNOW it's a mistake. I don't live in this "magical land" where Nintendo does no wrong either (and was GREATLY non-plussed that a mod would put words into my mouth). There's a great potential for them to screw this up (I, for one, will see it as a missed opportunity if there's no analog triggers). But that's all it is: POTENTIAL for a mistake. But you're speaking in absolutes and definitives without anything to base that on. It's a tad unsettling.
And lastly, EVERY SINGLE CONTROLLER that Nintendo has shown has undergone a re-design after its first showing, dating back to the N64!
N64 original controller design: L/R buttons were originally thinner and protruded less from the controller, the analog stick had NO grips and was made of a matte plastic, the Z trigger was nearly flush with the controller, the handles tapered much thinner than the final design
Gamecube original controller design: NO D-PAD, handles were longer and tapered too thin, C-stick and start button (where the D-Pad was in the final design) were angled too far downward, B button was shaped like the Y and X buttons
And I don't need to tell you what changed with the Wii, the info graphic from earlier does that nicely.
So.... yeah..................... enjoy those definitive statements, man.
ShockingAlberto
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When I used them they weren't that much like the 3DS slidepad
The 3DS one is a flat disc on the deck. The Wii U one was raised (though still a slider), a few cm deep, and made of rubber. It would grip your thumb because of the little ring around the top, like the Classic Controller Pro analog stick.
Actually, I'd say it felt like the top of the CC Pro but bigger and without the stick part.
I know this all eventually boils down to personal preference, but did you like using sliders? Did you think there was a noticeable difference compared to a 360 or PS3 stick? I'm interested in comparisons to a traditional analog stick from the folks who have used the DRC.
-Pyromaniac-
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just tell me, will I like it? You've read my complaints I'm sure.
sadly, those tend to fade away with intense use...
my two nunchuks know about it
ShockingAlberto
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I'd personally prefer an analog stick thinking about playing, say, Mario Galaxy, but I'm pretty good at getting used to stuff
Ultimately it is going to depend on long term use. My big issue with sliders is that you have to physically hold the disc up instead of pushing it up, but the "button" sizes of these should mitigate that a lot.
I think people are going to eventually see why they went for sliders over raised sticks but not necessarily be happy about it.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The grip is similar to the Nunchuck. It is not identical, and it is a pad, where my concerns lie (due to the manner in which you tilt a pad versus a stick).
I spoke of no definitives, already stated I had never used the controller, did not claim you said anything you did not. I also stated it would be impossible for me to truly judge without playing. This is the literal opposite of a definitive.
As already posted, the Wii Remote is almost identical. Different, yes. But marginally. Functionally it might as well be the same thing. And logically I would accept a revision and change. But because I don't live in the future I do not have access to any information other than the present.
Back up. Take a deep breath. Calm down. It's not a big deal. Stop taking my disagreeance with you over the design and aesthetics of the Wii U pad as some hysterically mad wronging.
-Pyromaniac-
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well yeah it goes without saying that an analog stick would be better, but I was saying under the assumption that is off the table (I hope it's not though). And I know what you mean about holding the sliders up. Just annoying stuff.
It's things like that which truly make me wonder whether or not nintendo notices these things. I assume they do and just assume it's no big deal or they just don't care or something. It's a bit weird. I think they're notable problems.
Sounds rather annoying imo.
Kinda has me worried at the same time. Did it take you a while to get used to playing with the controller?
ShockingAlberto
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I only used it once for like five minutes.
Error Macro
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DAMMIT, Nintendo is so stupid sometimes it's unbelievable.
I see. Well I guess I'll wait for more hands on impressions and ultimately until I get the controller in my hands. Other than the slider, I have no issue with the controller itself or the Wii U.
TheCongressman1
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That's my problem with it. It's not much of an issue on 3DS for me, but I'd imagine it's a bit unwieldy with that big controller.
Is the why we're supposed to recognize a purely aesthetic choice, or is there a supposed reason for the change?
AceBandage
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Dark Zelda
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I see what you did there...
Proper handles, and what appear to be analog triggers? Why did you show us this? That's just deflating.
DAMMIT, Nintendo is so stupid sometimes it's unbelievable.
The one of the left looks infinitely more comfortable to hold. Those analog sticks are real nice, too.
ShockingAlberto
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It would honestly be uncomfortable on that controller. Your thumb would be stretching too far up.
From grip to top of the thumb...try stacking two CCPros or Dualshocks or whatever on top of each other and using the analog stick comfortably. For a lot of people, that would be fine, but a lot more would start to feel strained after a while.
bgassassin
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AceBandage
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One could say... It was an error to post that.
The left one looks infinitely better. I'm guessing they went with the right to get a bigger screen on the controller.
bgassassin
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It's definitely a macro error instead of a micro error.
Error Macro
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LOL ^^
I needed others to feel my pain.
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-removal of handles
-moving the buttons/d-pad into a thumb cramping location directly under the analogs
-trading the sticks for circle pads
WTF
I needed others to feel my pain.
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-removal of handles
-moving the buttons/d-pad into a thumb cramping location directly under the analogs
-trading the sticks for circle pads
WTF
Maybe related to that 1666 trademark:
http://games.ign.com/articles/122/1220815p1.html
Of the 2 unannounced THQ WiiU games one is Wii U/3DS/Wii/PS3/360, and one is exclusive. Safe to assume the first is something related to udraw(although this line is supposedly dead?) or some other casual franchise since it includes the Wii.
Perhaps this exclusive game is one of those 3rd party collaborations/moneyhats that Iwata talked about a few months ago.
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