Pathfinder made it because of the blind loyalty and poor frontal encephalization of its fan base. The average pledge was like $126. And they didn't even need the money to make the game.
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Wildman, Gas Powered Games Kickstarter Action RPG
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Pathfinder made it because of the blind loyalty and poor frontal encephalization of its fan base. The average pledge was like $126. And they didn't even need the money to make the game.
I just honestly don't see it happening. The trending charts are generally pretty accurate, and with the way things are going, they'll end up short by a few hundred thousand.
With this kind of game/concept, 1.1 mill is really pushing it. Don't get me wrong, I want them to succeed and would definitely at least play the game to see how I liked it, but most people are iffy on the actual concept of the game itself right now which isn't working in their favor at all.
It looks like Kickstarters generally experience a huge push in the last week. The questions are will they be close enough to take advantage of the push and will that push be enough to put them over the top. Pathfiunder online was moving in a very similar trend to Wildman. They gained over $400K in the last 5 days. PA (which had a very different trend obviously) did over $600K in their last 5 days. IMHO, I think it will be shockingly close and fun to watch.
They are running a live Q&A session Monday at 1pm PST.
EDIT: evidently the stream starts at 12PST, Taylor to be on at 1PST
Here's the forum where people are posting questions:
http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=61485
Here's the llink to the stream (Twitch TV):
http://www.twitch.tv/gaspoweredgames
They are running a live Q&A session Monday at 1pm PST.
EDIT: evidently the stream starts at 12PST, Taylor to be on at 1PST
Here's the forum where people are posting questions:
http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=61485
Here's the llink to the stream (Twitch TV):
http://www.twitch.tv/gaspoweredgames
MachoSuave
Neo Member
How can you see art like this and not send them all of your money, goddamn.
The comments section seems to have amassed a small crew of dedicated fans spreading the word about the net, you'd think with that and all these interviews the project would have a little more traction. I think they may need something big and bold stating there's far more to the concept than was initially thought, there just seems to be an awful stigma about the company after an initially poor introduction, misinterpreted lay-offs and the AoEO confusion (gg MS).
A damn shame, really.
The comments section seems to have amassed a small crew of dedicated fans spreading the word about the net, you'd think with that and all these interviews the project would have a little more traction. I think they may need something big and bold stating there's far more to the concept than was initially thought, there just seems to be an awful stigma about the company after an initially poor introduction, misinterpreted lay-offs and the AoEO confusion (gg MS).
A damn shame, really.
[IMG said:
You forgot this one. Dinosaurs! This game is going to be incredible. I'm loving more with each reveal. No idea why people aren't throwing money at this. Sure, it didn't make sense at first, but when you understand the concept it's great. Kind of a Diablo type game where you can control waypoints from unit buildings that your creeps come out of.
You will be able to morph into a lion or leopard as seen above. Incredible stuff!
By not being interested in the product they're offering. Make another Supreme Commander and I'm in.
Why make another of a game that exists already anyway? I never understood why innovative game concepts get kicked to the curb in favor of nostalgia or "let's do another one exactly like this" projects on Kickstarter.
ARPGs are dime a dozen, even if this one comes with some extra gimmicks, large-scale RTSs are pretty much extinct.
Yeah, I would have put real money into Kings and Castles instead of just the preorder tier I did for this. Too many samey games and I was really pumped for Kings and Castles.
When I first posted this it was trending at 60 percent of the goal now its down to 54 percent.
FloppyDelux
Member
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Because people want it? Planetary Annihilation had no problems getting Kickstarted.
There's nothing samey about Wildman....I guess people still don't understand the concept? Your wildman is your diablo like character and you explore a giant world. You approach an enemy base and start attacking it. Enemies start attacking you that come out of buildings like creeps in Dota. You then can start building buildings for your own creep waves and you can direct them with waypoints, controlling where your creeps go.
So there are a ton of enemy creeps fighting your creeps as well as your Wildman getting in on the action as well as the enemy warlord. I guess it's hard to explain since it's never been done before. The world is seamless. You'll move from area to area fighting new characters and looting new technology from enemy warlords.
It's a little confusing to be honest but it does sound really awesome and you can't really compare it to anything that's ever been made.
So there are a ton of enemy creeps fighting your creeps as well as your Wildman getting in on the action as well as the enemy warlord. I guess it's hard to explain since it's never been done before. The world is seamless. You'll move from area to area fighting new characters and looting new technology from enemy warlords.
It's a little confusing to be honest but it does sound really awesome and you can't really compare it to anything that's ever been made.
Powermonger?
MachoSuave
Neo Member
I think you're getting your wording mixed up there, decent diablo-clones aren't dime-a-dozen, in fact before Torchlight they were just as dead as the large-scale RTS, and even since then the only notable titles have been Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2. What they are however is incredibly same-y, which is what GPG is trying to tackle here, it's not a gimmick, it's half of the experience and looks really interesting to me.
Also Chris already stated if they wanted to make a large scale RTS (specifically K&C) it would cost a hell of a lot more than what PA was asking for or even ended up with and with Uber already beating them to the punch, it would've been far greater a risk to take than what Wildman has been. He also stated he's interested in seeing if they'll be able to stay in budget with the scale they're going for, but some have already drawn the link that he may have been under the assumption they were including a campaign, which they aren't, or making specific maps instead of having procedurally generated planets, which they aren't, so hopefully they'll make it.
If Wilman succed there will be more chance to revive Kings and Castles - but if it fails - Kings and Castles will be doomed as well
Wiktor
Member
But they would need AFAIR 5mln dollars for it. There's no way it would ever reach this much.
Alchemy said:
yea dont think it will get funded
The guy who wrote this study would probably bet against you on that.
http://www.appsblogger.com/behind-kickstarter-crowdfunding-stats/
I just pledged a few days ago... feel bad for waiting so long, but the game didn't particularly appeal to me. Definitely about keeping GPG alive at this point for me, as well as giving them a chance to make something creative (which even if this game doesn't have a hook for me, it is at the very least a creative recombining of genres, and could turn out fun.)
The big difference is that Pathfinder has 3700 supporters pledging $100 and 700 supporters pledging $175. Wildman doesn't have that kind of support and therefore is just halfway there despite having more backers.
There's fat chance this kickstarter will make it to the finish line - unless a miracle occurs. But I don't see it happening at the current pace. The worst bit about a failed kickstarter is that Gas Powered Games will close because they've run out of funds. Such a shitty way to go ...
BeardyChan
Member
Man this makes me sad
I'm hoping they do manage to salvage the studio and keep things running. Honestly, Chris looks like shit, which means he was probably up all weekend stressing over this. I thought he was going to break into tears a couple times in the video.
Those guys working there must all be pretty stressed too, since they don't know how much longer they'll be employed (and he said some of them have been there for like 15 years).
Whether you like the studio or the games they put out, the fact remains, it's sad to see them in a situation like this. Either way, I hope they pull through.
There was also an absurdly high chance that they weren't going to raise over half a million dollars in 4 freaking says. The Kickstarter was an idea for keeping the company afloat, clearly it wasn't going to work.
Maybe they found a publisher for it but it doesn't sound like it.
I don't think anyone, at least not enough people, would want another Supreme Commander. Not under that name. Maybe similar concepts with a new skin, sure. But I imagine SC didn't actually do them many favors as far as keeping their company alive.
It's not really about the SupCom IP specifically, as I said above, the large-scale RTS is pretty much dead. It doesn't matter how you package it, but having tactical missiles, nukes that don't instantly end the game, giant energy shields and non-gimmicky experimental units does create a unique gameplay experience.
There is so much more you could do with that concept instead of butting into the bust ARPG market.
Well at least this bit sounds like their might be some interest from somewhere in publishing circles. Maybe...
Hopefully they will reveal what's going on at some point in the near future. I was looking forward to the game.