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[NemesisPrime]

New XBox day one.

PS4... maybe after a few years. Sony has lost me totally last few years.

WiiU... after a few months.

Vita... maybe to do development on if possible.

 

[clav]

To all the posters saying "XBOX day 1, PS4 wait"

Why?


PS3 60 gig was the best version ever. Full BC that got taken out with post launch models.

XBOX launch was the red ring batch.


(I have both consoles, and im just curious)

Who's saying Xbox Day 1 and PS4 wait?

Microsoft won't have a red ring again as Sony had the same thing with PS3s and yellow light of death.

Manufacturers at the time were new to using lead-free solder in their consoles (due to the European mandate of lead-free solder in electronics in 2006), and both were cutting corners in terms of heatsink design and fan cooling.

With that said, I would like to see the internals of the X720 before I purchase one.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

I think people need to stop being early adopters, its unhealthy.

What I do is wait until there are 5 games for THAT console that I want. Exclusives are better, but whatever it is that you want to play. Thats the right time to buy a game system, at least for me.

 

[UnblessedSoul]

Probably no unless they have a strong line up and convince me enough to warrent one

 

[polyh3dron]

just a question since im curious and am ignorant on the subject, but when Dreamcast launched in NA, was the PS2 announced yet? And if so was there a ballpark figure on how powerful it would be relative to the Dreamcast?

There was talk about how the PS2 could render the Toy Story movie in real time, and it could also render all the CG seen in the then-newly released Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace in real time as well. The insane PS2 hype made many gamers skip the DC thinking that the PS2 would be a huge jump ahead of it, which didn't really turn out to be the case.

 

[Proelite]

I think people need to stop being early adopters, its unhealthy.

If people stopped being early adopters, then say goodbye to console gaming.
I think early adopters should be praised for their nobility, passion, and self-sacrifice.
I guess we could always force black people or other minorities to be the first wave of adopters, since it's such a bad thing.

 

[DjangoReinhardt]

Hell no. I learned my lesson with the faulty hardware, beta firmware, and the now-standard terrible first year of software. I'm not going to support the systems until they are worth supporting.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

If people stopped being early adopters, then say goodbye to console gaming.
I think early adopters should be praised for their nobility, passion, and self-sacrifice.
I guess we could always force black people or other minorities to be the first wave of adopters, since it's such a bad thing.

Yeah but you would train the consumer to reward a console for its software, not so much hardware. I didnt mean for people to stop doing that, just put software into your decision making.

 

[King Cobra]

I think people need to stop being early adopters, its unhealthy.

What I do is wait until there are 5 games for THAT console that I want. Exclusives are better, but whatever it is that you want to play. Thats the right time to buy a game system, at least for me.

That is such a genius idea, lets all just wait a year or 2 and leave the video game market in a stagnant position. I'm pretty sure that won't have dire consequences to all video game companies /sarcasm.

 

[Granger Danger]

If people stopped being early adopters, then say goodbye to console gaming.
I think early adopters should be praised for their nobility, passion, and self-sacrifice.

Hah! We intelligent consumers are the ones who should be paid, for having to put up with their insufferable smugness.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

That is such a genius idea, lets all just wait a year or 2 and leave the video game market in a stagnant position. I'm pretty sure that won't have dire consequences to all video game companies /sarcasm.

Thats not what Im saying, whos saying wait two years? Dont twist my point please.

For me, all 3 mayor consoles had 5 games I wanted within 5 months at the latest. You should defend that consoles should ship with unlikable software.

People should buy systems because of the games they have, not because "if I dont buy this at launch the industry will collapse"

 

[Bauer Action Hour]

Absolutely not. Between the hardware failures of initial production units and the lack of compelling software that typifies the launch period for consoles, there's no reason not to wait.

I'm going to hold firm with that thought process, even if there's a sequel ready to go for one of my handful of favorite franchises, because I've discovered that I don't have to be a slave to the release schedule. I'm fully capable of waiting to play any game. There are also plenty of present-gen/old-games that I haven't played that can keep me busy until I'm confident in build quality and the prices are in line with the value I place on the console(s). It also helps that I have a capable PC, which allows me to play those old games at high frame rates with AA/AF.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

If people stopped being early adopters, then say goodbye to console gaming.
I think early adopters should be praised for their nobility, passion, and self-sacrifice.
I guess we could always force black people or other minorities to be the first wave of adopters, since it's such a bad thing.

What the fuck?

The complete lack of rationality in this post hurts my brain.

 

[Zimbardo]

good Lord, no.

not going near sony's or microsoft's next console on day 1.

after all the hardware failings of this gen ...Hah!

fool me once, shame on you.

fool me twice, shame on me.

 

[gutter_trash]

only after 2014

Ps3 and 360 haven't reached their potential

I am still waiting for my God of War II or Shadow Of The Colossus of this generation

 

[dubc35]

No, I won't buy day one. If I buy it at all it will be after a price drop or new models are announced. I think this might be my last console generation. The vast majority of my gaming consists of racing games so I will probably focus on PC gaming at that point.

 

[King Cobra]

Thats not what Im saying, whos saying wait two years? Dont twist my point please.

For me, all 3 mayor consoles had 5 games I wanted within 5 months at the latest. You should defend that consoles should ship with unlikable software.

People should buy systems because of the games they have, not because "if I dont buy this at launch the industry will collapse"

I understand what you are trying to say, but if you saw e3 you should have noticed a trend happening. A large amount of people 40% according to MS use consoles for things other than gaming. Some people bought a PS3 solely for the fact that it was the cheapest blu-ray player available. Both Sony and MS are aiming to make consoles that do much more than just play games. So to some there is no need to wait for the next halo or god of war when you can be entertained enough with what is available already.

Hah! We intelligent consumers are the ones who should be paid, for having to put up with their insufferable smugness.

You forgot to put /sarcasm.

 

[Lion Heart]

PS4 most likely barring some crazy new vision Sony has for the console.

X720- probably never.

 

[ninjatrigg]

Who's saying Xbox Day 1 and PS4 wait?

Microsoft won't have a red ring again as Sony had the same thing with PS3s and yellow light of death.

The post right before yours said it.

YLOD was miniscule in comparison to the RROD...

I just dont see why Xbox is so much better than the PS3... I play my ps3 way more than my xbox.

XBox day 1 is a hell no for me. I probably wont buy a ps4 day one either for that matter...
Too much money for diminishing returns...


Im def getting a Vita day one. <3 portables.

 

[evilchicken]

A few of you keep saying "PS4 Maybe" and "No way for Xbox after RROD". Do you not remember the crazy high failure rate of PS2s? DRE (Disc Read Error). I worked at GameStop during that time and we were getting like 2-3 people a day trying to sell us broken PS2s.

After a blunder like RROD, you don't think they'll put some money into making sure they don't lose billions again?


Anyway, yes and yes. Because let's be honest, I don't need to know a console's specs right at this moment to know that there will be great games out for both plaltforms at some point.

 

[GameSeeker]

Yes, I'm an early adopter. I'll be there Day 1.

As it is, both Sony and Microsoft will be late with next gen if it doesn't ship in 2012. Nintendo has already announced their next-gen system (Wii U); now it's time for Sony and Nintendo to get their respective acts together.

 

[alphaNoid]

Xbox, ... probably within the first year.

 

[evilchicken]

I just dont see why Xbox is so much better than the PS3... I play my ps3 way more than my xbox.

This just means you don't play online with friends regularly. If you do, it's black and white.

 

[bobbytkc]

Who's saying Xbox Day 1 and PS4 wait?

Microsoft won't have a red ring again as Sony had the same thing with PS3s and yellow light of death.

Manufacturers at the time were new to using lead-free solder in their consoles (due to the European mandate of lead-free solder in electronics in 2006), and both were cutting corners in terms of heatsink design and fan cooling.

With that said, I would like to see the internals of the X720 before I purchase one.

you are totally out of perspective if you think that RROD is of he same scale as ylod.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

I understand what you are trying to say, but if you saw e3 you should have noticed a trend happening. A large amount of people 40% according to MS use consoles for things other than gaming. Some people bought a PS3 solely for the fact that it was the cheapest blu-ray player available. Both Sony and MS are aiming to make consoles that do much more than just play games. So to some there is no need to wait for the next halo or god of war when you can be entertained enough with what is available already.

Agreed, thats not the audience Im talking to though. If two consoles have the same games, then the decision shift to the extras, price and whether it breaks or not

 

[clav]

The post right before yours said it.

YLOD was miniscule in comparison to the RROD...

I just dont see why Xbox is so much better than the PS3... I play my ps3 way more than my xbox.

XBox day 1 is a hell no for me. I probably wont buy a ps4 day one either for that matter...
Too much money for diminishing returns...


Im def getting a Vita day one. <3 portables.

YLODs are definitely just as common. If you have the fat PS3, then it's susceptible to the YLOD.

I like the Xbox library more than Playstation's, so that makes us different gamers.

As for portables, I got burned last generation with both the PSP and DS. The DS games were like fun for a week, but then I never played them again. The PSP didn't really have content.

you are totally out of perspective if you think that RROD is of he same scale as ylod.

It's definitely on the scale of how many PS3s were sold at the time compared to X360s.

Anyone saying otherwise didn't read what I wrote, so I'll write it here.

Manufacturers were experimenting with lead-free solder at the time due to the EU lead-free solder mandate and also cut corners in terms of mounting heatsinks + cooling.

 

[GDGF]

Nah, but I will upgrade my PC when the other systems arrive.

 

[Proelite]

I understand what you are trying to say, but if you saw e3 you should have noticed a trend happening. A large amount of people 40% according to MS use consoles for things other than gaming. Some people bought a PS3 solely for the fact that it was the cheapest blu-ray player available. Both Sony and MS are aiming to make consoles that do much more than just play games. So to some there is no need to wait for the next halo or god of war when you can be entertained enough with what is available already.

Exactly, even if there are no good games, there will be cool shit on the console that will be there day 1, especially for Xbox. Combined with the prospect of a new Halo / Gears / Call of Duty, I have enough reasons to be their day 1.

 

[bobbytkc]

YLODs are definitely just as common. If you have the fat PS3, then it's susceptible to the YLOD..

now that's just bullshit.

btw, failure RATE is a percentage. it has nothing to do with how many were sold.

 

[CrankyJay]

No. I will buy up cheap ps3 games and finish my backlog so when ps4 has a price drop and cheap first wave games I will be there.

 

[clav]

now that's just bullshit.

Have you actually opened up your consoles and see how they are made?

 

[JayTapp]

Of course I will. I'm a game programmer after all, so I have the perfect excuse to buy one even if it's expensive

 

[bobbytkc]

Have you actually opened up your consoles and see how they are made?

tell me how you can determine the percentage of failure by looking. I am intrigued.

 

[The Crimson Kid]

If the new consoles do offer a significant boost in power, then they will be much more complex to manufacture. One of the reasons MS gave for the RROD mess was that the 360 has many times more parts in it than the OG Xbox. The more parts that are necessary, the higher chance that one of them will fail.

you are totally out of perspective if you think that RROD is of he same scale as ylod.

Seconded. RROD is on a much grander scale than YLOD. And that's not even counting all the other ways 360's break. I'm on my 4th box atm and none of them broke due to RROD. The disc drive just gave up one day on one, and on another the video output just gave up without warning.

 

[clav]

tell me how you can determine the percentage of failure by looking. I am intrigued.

By design and reports.

Don't act like the YLOD doesn't exist.

 

[Treefingers]

Nope, I think I've moved on from consoles tbh.

I like playing on a PC and don't really care about games I might be missing out on since I have plenty of games filling up Steam that I still haven't even played let alone finished. Plus I like my KB+M.

Also I don't see how you can possibly say day 1 when you have absolutely no idea what they even are.

 

[Majanew]

Next Xbox will be day one. PS4 will be bought, just not sure if day one.

 

[Cromat]

Depends on ten different variables we know nothing about:

1) Price
2) Games line-up
3) Financial situation
4) Time/interest in games

It's 2 years from now at the earliest... how can anyone say that with any amount of certainty?

 

[kinoki]

I'll most likely get the PlayStation 4 when it launches. Probably not day 1 but the first week or so.

 

[(._.)]

hell fucking no

 

[Deadstar]

I will be there day 1 most likely. Consoles are really showing their age and I want new experiences which can only come from new tech and better graphics.

 

[bobbytkc]

By design and reports.

Don't act like the YLOD doesn't exist.

I am not saying they don't exist, but merely stating that they exist on a different scale. at the time, RROD affected a third and more of the systems. ps3 failures were less than 10 per cent.

http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/

the above is as of 2007.


http://asia.gamespot.com/news/6216691/xbox-360-failure-rate-237-ps3-10-wii-27-study

the above is as of 2009, after the 360 redesign.

 

[jg4xchamp]

No.

I learned my lesson this gen.

 

[eso76]

Anyone who buys an Xbox 720 on day 1 is a fucking moron and deserves any hardware failures they get.

bought an x360 day 1 (-1 actually, my retailer broke street date for me ) RRODed after 1 year, MS sent someone and i had a brand new xbox360 within a week.
Been working since then, so yeah, it wasn't a huge problem but thanks for your concern

Enjoying a system the day it's launched is worth the hassle (which tbh was almost non existant) for me.
It's not like in the days of imports, when i had a japanese psx (not going to tell you how much i paid for that) die on me after 2 DAYS and i had to throw away its outrageously expensive pieces.
You get this thing called warranty meaning the manufacturer has to take care of any hardware failure for the first 2 years so nah, not worried.


To be precise, in regards to my previous answer, i'm going to buy whichever comes first day one for them graphicz !
The one launching second will lack the wow factor the one kickstarting next gen should have, so i'll need better reasons and i almost certainly won't buy it day one.

 

[Space Runaway]

At the moment it's very easy for me to say no;however, depending on the consoles' capabilities and the launch line-up I could easily find myself singing a different tune. We'll see.

 

[Allonym]

I'm a firm believer that Sony will have great tech and an attractive price and I'm willing to bet my life that KZ4 will be a launch title and will be the best looking game of that time for a long while. And yes i will be there for PS4's launch. May even buy a couple and flip em'. Lol got that idea from some other gaffer

 

[clav]

I am not saying they don't exist, but merely stating that they exist on a different scale. at the time, RROD affected a third and more of the systems. ps3 failures were less than 10 per cent.

:lol

 

[Snipes424]

depends really.

If 720 is Kinect focused I will never buy the console ever let alone day 1.

PS4. I will most likely buy day 1.

 

[King Cobra]

By design and reports.

Don't act like the YLOD doesn't exist.

No one is saying it doesn't exist, I think you need to do a little research my friend, YLOD has been said to be around 1-2%, the RROD has been said to be 30-54% (54% from a game informer survey). There is a night and day difference between the reliability, take it from some who is still on his 60gb PS3 and has gone through 5 360 repairs.

 

[iamvin22]

Day 1 PS4