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Windows 8 Gaming Performance (benchmarks inside)
- Thread starter mik83kuu
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Well the site is fantastic and W1zzards reviews are the best so benchmarks should be pretty spot on.
As a lot of people will tell you, Vista right now isn't a terrible OS. Driver support was shit at launch but that's not the case any more.
alexandros
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Hardly. The fact that performance is the same as Win 7 is actually a positive, since a newer OS is usually slower in games (that was the case with Win 98 -> XP and XP -> 7, I have first-hand experience). Better drivers are also likely to improve performance a bit. Still, I can't see any compelling reason for a gamer to buy Windows 8, unless of course the Xbox Live stuff is important to him.
Aw come on. So we disagree on something, it happens all the time. I still like you btw
PapaJustify
Member
Well, then it is probably their users that should know better, that a benchmark at this point is rather pointless.
It's not possible right now and any future hacks to remove it will probably be really kludgy like theming hacks for Windows 7.
There are a few hacks right now to bring back a Start Menu of sorts (not quite the same as Windows 7) but you will unavoidably have to face certain other Metro elements (some settings, volume slider, any time you attach a removable storage device).
First of all the site is very much not unknown. Second of all the other benchmarks posted on the thread were (unless I missed something) not gaming benchmarks. Third of all you basically contradict your previous comment by agreeing with the benchmarks posted in the OP.
I guess this has something to do with measured gaming performance on Windows 8, I just can't quite see how.
Uno Venova
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I also felt it was just a marginal speed improvement while using the beta releases, definitely not enough of a speed increase to justify using the start menu and a less cohesive interface.
Exactly, people are idiots. A barely noticeable dip in performance with drivers built for a release candidate OS. As soon as nvidia and amd get the drivers worked out you won't be able to notice a difference.
PapaJustify
Member
Well, I haven't heard of this site. And I know tech sites more popular than this, but I shouldn't have made this statement to begin with. So let's move on...
The other site also included a gaming benchmark and results from several benchmark tools.
And I am not contradicting as I never agreed or disagreed with the OP. Might be that those results are valid under certain circumstances. I just say that the whole misjudging Win8 in this thread based on these number is stupid and pointless at this point of time (2 months before General Availability).
Treemonkeys
Member
People were already unhappy with Win8 before this for other reason, while others were saying it would give an increase in performance. This only adds to the cons of Win8.
WTF THIS IS A DISASTER!!1
It's terrible, I know :-( How will we ever survive this?!
Didn't read the whole article and just looked at the benches but... Isn't that 1-2% within an acceptable margin of error? If they ran the tests 10 times each and averaged it... Who cares, its not that big of a difference, the other gains in the desktop environment (snappier, less background resources/tasks) seem to offset it. Looking forward to 8 myself.
Well, there are still plenty of things about it that irritate me.
But just not enough to get me to pay for an upgrade on one of my machines that I don't use that often.
But for £20 or whatever the promo price is I'll bite.
yn-neko hates a cat
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Deleted member 1235
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not really. the start menu is just the metro interface now. you still activate it from bottom left, it still has the 'search' like the search bar in 7.
metro is not difficult to navigate on a desktop. it does initially look very very different, but no functionality is lost at all. IE10 metro version is shit though, if you want to do ANYTHING, you have to 'show on the desktop' to get at the options.
slackboy72
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I had XP for nearly ten years. Why would I want to get rid of 7 after two years?
Not a con. OS operations that don't really depend on drivers (CPU/Encoding) are ootb faster, sometimes noticeably. GPU performance with first release drivers being on par bodes well for Windows 8 for future driver development, especially with a new driver model that allows greater efficiency. Things are definitely looking good so far.
yeah, except in this new "start menu", desktop is just an icon.
plagiarize
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the only reason to dislike windows 8 and like windows 7 is if you hate metro's aesthetics (because the start screen performs the same tasks as the start menu just as efficiently) or if you hate the notion of metro apps and think the goal is to get rid of the desktop completely.
to me it's not a tablet OS, but a hybrid one. it performs really quickly (booting and shutting down so fast i don't even bother using the sleep function on the machines i have it installed on, i just straight shut down), offers some really handy new keyboard shortcuts for *true* power users (who use keyboard shortcuts). overall it's improved my workflow and i look forwards to putting it on the rest of my machines come october.
i understand why some don't like it, but beside the aesthetics and the portents which are genuinely just matters of opinion, it's a better OS in all the quantitative measures (well, ignoring that Windows 8 drivers are in some cases 2% slower for games at this time).
to me it's not a tablet OS, but a hybrid one. it performs really quickly (booting and shutting down so fast i don't even bother using the sleep function on the machines i have it installed on, i just straight shut down), offers some really handy new keyboard shortcuts for *true* power users (who use keyboard shortcuts). overall it's improved my workflow and i look forwards to putting it on the rest of my machines come october.
i understand why some don't like it, but beside the aesthetics and the portents which are genuinely just matters of opinion, it's a better OS in all the quantitative measures (well, ignoring that Windows 8 drivers are in some cases 2% slower for games at this time).
You say that as if it has an effect on the way the desktop operates. It doesn't.
Start8 from Stardock (free) I believe does this.
Even Brad Wardell, who is very negative in Win8, says there are under-the-hood improvements that are nice.
I'm going to wait and see if anyone comes up with anything to make Win8 work like Win7 before considering it.
Uno Venova
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File transfer of course.
You'd need only two things to make the the Win8 UI function identically to Win7.
Boot to Desktop
Start Menu (with Start keyboard button popping up the Menu instead of the Screen).
That's it. There is absolutely no functionality in Win 7 that is not present in 8. It's just a different UI and I am kind of confused with the allegiance to a UI concept that is more than a decade old (it's from 1995!) and showing its age.
Salacious Crumb
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I wish they would release a business oriented version of win8 without the metro nonsense.
Metro just really rubs me the wrong way, operating it with a mouse is unintuitive, and it's completely useless at multitasking compared to the desktop. It's also really dumb how Metro web browsers are completely separate programs from desktop browsers. Different histories, saved form info and saved passwords.
Metro just really rubs me the wrong way, operating it with a mouse is unintuitive, and it's completely useless at multitasking compared to the desktop. It's also really dumb how Metro web browsers are completely separate programs from desktop browsers. Different histories, saved form info and saved passwords.
br0ken_shad0w
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Fuck it, I'm not going to great lengths to describe my grievances with Metro since most of you will just say "get over it".
Windows 7 still exists so that's good enough for me.
Windows 7 still exists so that's good enough for me.
plagiarize
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as someone who works in an IT department, I am salivating at the thought of giving our users a handful of big ass buttons for the four or five applications most of our staff use that will present themselves to our users as soon as they log in. i'm pretty sure they'll figure out where to put the mouse pointer and what button to click.
CTRL-MouseWheelUp on Win7 desktop and you got the same thing. Unless an app is specifically a Metro app, the huge square in the Metro interface is nothing but a big shortcut.
plagiarize
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that isn't the same thing though. that just makes everything on your desktop big which makes the desktop a lot less useful. the staff here save a lot of shit to their desktops. sadly.
alexandros
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It really isnt't though, at least in my opinion. It's two different operating systems awkwardly glued together. You can't use Windows 8 as a pure desktop OS because at some point you will be forced to use Metro. You can't use it purely as a tablet OS because at some point you will be forced to use the desktop. I am hopeful that Windows 9 will be a true hybrid OS but Windows 8 is quite clearly a rush job.
Agreed.
You'll probably miss out on the cheap launch deals though. Best bet might be to buy now, upgrade later.
Shining Sunshine
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More like 0% when the game is incompatible, amirite?
It's awesome. Get it over 8 for sure.
SirIgbyCeaser
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I WILLL NOT STAND FOR THIS DOWNGRADE.
I WILLL NOT STAND FOR THIS DOWNGRADE.
Well it'll be cheaper for you to get 8 for the next few months than it will to get 7. 7 is awesome. 8 is awesome.
7 is the new XP, in the way that people are going to be using it for years skipping vista/8.
Windows 8 is a bloody disaster, how they thought it's ready for release is beyond me. Here's a good review of 8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw
Yeah forcing a touch UI (albeit inconsistently) on desktop users is pretty awesome. Agreed.
I have a 240GB Vertex 3...I don't really see how my OS can be any snappier.
Running Windows 8 right now.
All my steam games work, go problems to report. Gaming doesn't seem faster, but doing normal stuff on the desktop seems faster.
Not sure why people people want to skip it, the whole metro UI thing really isn't an issue. I actually kind of like toying with those apps. Makes me want iPad app compatibility on my macbook, the idea of using a dedicated netflix app is way better than the website.
All my steam games work, go problems to report. Gaming doesn't seem faster, but doing normal stuff on the desktop seems faster.
Not sure why people people want to skip it, the whole metro UI thing really isn't an issue. I actually kind of like toying with those apps. Makes me want iPad app compatibility on my macbook, the idea of using a dedicated netflix app is way better than the website.
That's the worst win8 review i've seen, those guys are absolute tools. Click the settings button when you search, idiots.