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Windows 8 Gaming Performance (benchmarks inside)
- Thread starter mik83kuu
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I watched a little bit of that video, agreed that its not really a review, they were just having fun with the idea of making everything seems more complicated than it actually is.
Its definetly not representative of actually using the OS
Yea, I thought there was less overhead on Win8? 1 of the main reasons I switched to the Consumer Preview.
Most of you guys shitting on Win8 have probably never used it? Yes there is a Touchscreen panel and things are a little different, but you never have to use the touchscreen panel if you don't want to. It's there so when you mess with a tablet with Win8 you'll know how to work it.
I always hit the Desktop button and i'm set.
Bomber Bob
Banned
I only trust the Polygon review
Press Window Key + D instead, its faster and it works when you are inside a metro app
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
A lot of what makes Win 8 feel snappier than Win 7 has no relation to what hard drive you have.
plagiarize
Banned
there's nothing quantitative about that though. and 'forced to use metro at some point' usually for me amounts to hitting Enter after I log in to get me to the desktop, and hitting the start key and typing in a program name to launch something i don't have a shortcut for in desktop land. functionally, that works exactly the same as it did in Windows 7 except it looks a bit different. am i 'forced to use metro'? i guess, but i don't see how that's any different than being 'forced to use the start menu'. in terms of what i physically have to do, and in terms of how long it takes to get my desktop program loaded, it's no different at all. then you have the other improvements that have been made to the desktop experience as well, and like i say *quantitatively* Windows 8 is a better OS. aesthetically, philosphically, you can say Windows 7 is better if you don't like Metro and have doubts about what it is trying to achieve... but finding a program with the start screen is no slower than it was with the start menu.
At what point? I can see how at some point a desktop app might be preferable to the metro equivalent, but that still wouldn't account to 'forcing'. Once the more obvious holes in the app store are filled (and they will be, many of them before the OS even launches officially) there won't be anything a tablet user needs to go to the desktop for even if there will be things they'll want to go to the desktop for.
what would this true hybrid OS look like? how many changes would you really need to make to Windows 8 to turn it into that thing? were those changes left out because it was rushed or did microsoft take them out because they felt (right or wrong) that what they have now is 'better'? the start menu was still in there for a while. effort wasn't taken by microsoft to remove it entirely because they were rushed to get Windows 8 out.
benjipwns
Banned
Vista was the outlier:
1990 - 3.0
1992 - 3.1
1995 - 95 (1996 - NT 4.0)
1998 - 98 (2000 - 2000/ME)
2001 - XP
2007 - Vista
2009 - 7
2012 - 8
that's one thing they got wrong, they acknowledged it in the video description. Not that that one mistake changes anything, Windows 8 is still really bad.
Those guys are like whiny little girls. I tried to ignore their comments and I have to agree that Win 8 looks like a mess. I really see no reason to upgrade from 7.
plagiarize
Banned
the only sorts of power users that i can see claiming Windows 8 isn't quicker and more efficient are the ones that refuse to use keyboard shortcuts. 8 has a bunch of new really useful ones that make my life easier.
i'm sure plenty of power users hate how it looks and worry that microsoft are trying to kill the desktop and a fully open software environment, but Windows 8 is quicker and more efficient.
unless you refuse to touch your keyboard.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Unless it looks like a home run ala Windows 95 then yes, I agree. I see little to even make me consider to upgrade. Windows 7 will be with me for another few years, it seems. And if Windows 9 is bad then I will stay with this for the long haul or even consider going Linux. Although not full time since gaming will likely always be leading on Windows based OS's.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Nah, it offers a lot of improvements that have nothing to do with Metro that make the upgrade more than worth it. Metro as a replacement for the Start menu works as well or better than it ever did and for hybrid devices it's a beautiful OS to use.
Going back to Win 7 after being on Win 8 for the past few months makes me appreciate the speed of Win 8 more. It's almost, though not quite as bad, as going back to into Vista when I was using the Win 7 beta.
I honestly don't understand the bitching. I'm a windows power user - and have no issues disabling or uninstalling the metro apps. When I can boot my older 3yr old laptop in under 20 seconds, that's better than win7 for me. It sounds like MS needs to offer the users ( perhaps after launch ) an option to remove metro, and have a hybrid start menu.
The only thing I use my start button for in win7 is searching, I can't be the only one. I haven't gone to all programs in years.
CrashPrime
Member
Guys, the choice is obvious.
Windows 95 - No.
Windows 98 - Yes.
Windows Me - No.
Windows XP - Yes.
Windows Vista - No.
Windows 7 - Yes.
...
Windows 8 - No.
Just skip Windows releases and you'll be fine. (NT and 2000 were not consumer OS's so don't start getting lippy winnerds.)
Windows 95 - No.
Windows 98 - Yes.
Windows Me - No.
Windows XP - Yes.
Windows Vista - No.
Windows 7 - Yes.
...
Windows 8 - No.
Just skip Windows releases and you'll be fine. (NT and 2000 were not consumer OS's so don't start getting lippy winnerds.)
There's no rule that dictates whether or not a Windows version is good. ME was the only version I was truly pissed off about. Vista wasn't great at the start but it eventually became decent. As long as MS prices their upgrades sensibly like Apple has been doing, I don't see a reason to actively avoid the upgrade or threaten to move to Linux ( you are selling maaaaad wolf tickets).
plagiarize
Banned
if they had removed the old way of doing all the things they bitch about i'd think it was fair enough. there point basically boiled down to 'Metro isn't really work friendly for all the tasks that you can also do in the desktop'. yeah, well, neither are tablets. so whatever. for all the things that you used to use the start menu for Metro works great. for everything else just do it in the desktop.
I like the Start Screen better than the Start Menu honestly. It's got the most useful function of the Win 7 Start Menu (search to launch app) but better because I can see a lot more of the programs I have installed while typing to search on the screen as compared to the old menu and I can do different program specific searches with a simple click after I start typing.
Everything else is just learning where things are. It's not harder to get to the Control Panel on 8 than 7, it's just a bit different.
That would make sense wouldn't it. Or just have two versions from the beginning. Metro just doesn't work on the desktop. I've always liked how Metro looks on phone not on the desktop. It should be left as a mobile UI.
lastflowers
Banned
This might be the worst review of an operating system that I have ever seen.
EDIT: It got much better after the first 5 minutes.
GayForMaster
Banned
Would people really switch to Windows 8 even if gaming performance was better?
It's literally a fucking tablet OS. It's disgusting. I'll gladly stick to windows 7.
It's literally a fucking tablet OS. It's disgusting. I'll gladly stick to windows 7.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
How long did you spend using it?
AppleSmack
Banned
Sticking with Windows 7 on dektop, moving to Mac on my laptop.
GayForMaster
Banned
Several hours?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
And during that time you didn't find the desktop?
Several hours of just staring at the monitor in dismay, I guess.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Were.......................were the colors at least nice?!
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Yours and others overzealous defense relexes really don't help you know, they just make you look like a prick.
Personally I used it for a few days, found the desktop and still hated Win 8 and reverted back to 7. Guess what, opinions differ.
Damon Bennet
Member
Why is everyone insisting that Windows 95 was Bad? It was a Revolution als defined how computing is going to Look in the next decade. That List is so Bad.
Also: minimimi tablet os. Lulz cry moar
Also: minimimi tablet os. Lulz cry moar
CosmicQueso
Member
I don't believe you. At all.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I tried windows 8 for about 2 months, it also convinced me to just skip it. No big deal.
Defensive much? Get over it, alot of people aren't going to bother with this. You can't sell me on 'Oh its snappy', I'm on a 256GB SSD, there isn't a single thing thats slow on my machine to begin with. You guys are becoming a bit annoying gang jumping anyone who refuses to worship W8. Especially since nearly all of us are deciding to stay with Win7... Like what are you even accusing people of here? Being fanboys? But of what? Windows? Its not like we are screaming "OH BOY, WIN8 LOOKS TERRIBLE TIME TO BUY A MAC".
If anything, stuff like this just shows me that I wont be missing anything game performance wise. Just pile that on the list of reasons that its not worth bothering with.
Not really. The start screen and metro apps serve no meaningful purpose on any display above 13". It's a complete clusterfuck of distinctly different interface paradigms, and the interactivity between them is handled very poorly.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
There are just as many people saying Windows 7 is such a great OS and people should stick with that, are they raging fanboys too?
No, it's not about using the OS afor a while nd not liking it, it just bugs me when people base their opinions about Windows 8 based on things that are factually incorrect. It's a big shift for the OS and you need more than a day to revise your workflows a bit before you start seeing some of the benefits.
Personally I don't see Metro much but the improvements to the desktop are great and worth the upgrade alone.
You could spend all day in just the desktop, so how it is a tablet OS? It's an OS designed to work on both environments, it's not one or the other.
Dehumanizer
Member
I don't see any advantage in upgrade to Windows 8 for a long time
alexandros
Banned
I should explain, by "forcing" I mean features that are not available on Metro or on the desktop so you are forced to use one of them. Metro example: If I want to run the "People" App, I have to use Metro. There's no desktop equivalent. Desktop example: If I want detailed settings I have to use the Control Panel, the Metro "Settings" menu doesn't cover everything.
When I first heard of Windows 8 I was very excited because I'm a big fan of hybrid devices. In my mind Windows 8 would have been be a proper Windows OS but with two different interface paradigms. Only the interface would change, not the underlying platform. Microsoft went a different way and added a second platform on top of Windows. Metro is not just an interface, it's a platform in itself. Metro apps are different from desktop apps. This is a divide that I really don't like.
So, for me, a true hybrid OS would be one that runs the same type of application OS-wide but with two different interface types: Metro when using touch, desktop when using mouse and keyboard. It doesn't seem that difficult to implement, I think Ubuntu allows you to select your UI and I'm guessing other distributions allow it to.
Cutting edge of what. Advertising in every single metro app?
I'm sure devs would love doubling up on interface development. Would have been a sure fire application market hit.
lastflowers
Banned
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Things are always harder to implement.
EDIT: Metro also adds security features that desktop does not offer.