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Windows PCs will have an AI photographic memory feature called “Recall,” which will take constant screenshots of everything you do
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LavitzSlambert
Member
Sounds like yet another feature of our corporate overlords that will inevitably be delayed multiple times, until finally they implement a GPO to disable it that will be utilized by 97% of businesses. Microsoft loves to push this shit, and then walk it back after the backlash. Think back to the XBL price hike (the one that would have doubled the cost of subs) - this is Microsoft showing their true colors, time and time again.
This is what they do as a business. It's in their own interest, they don't care what people actually want. 11 years ago they pushed always-on DRM and prohibiting used game sharing. They will do anything to gain leverage over their customers.
This is what they do as a business. It's in their own interest, they don't care what people actually want. 11 years ago they pushed always-on DRM and prohibiting used game sharing. They will do anything to gain leverage over their customers.
Puscifer
Member
ReviOS has made Windows feel the least invasive and in the background since 7.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Just use something like Manjaro. No significant difference.
it's always going to phone home for random shit like activation and updates, not sure what you're saying. we're talking about potentially being able to turn off this conceptual screenshot-everything feature. if you're saying that this feature would be some kind of thing hidden and not able to be turned off by the user, after they announced it publicly you're the naive one, trust me i'm sure windows is already backdoored in some way, but they wouldn't just come out and say it like they did here.
Syphon Filter
Member
there is other spyware that you cant turn off. its not just this.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
why is there no other company being able to make a PC OS that can compete directly against windows?
StereoVsn
Member
Most likely yes and it’s pretty fucking terrible. Already between Teams, Viva, CoPilot and bunch of other crap you can get an idea of what the heck people are doing if not minute to minute then at least on a fairly regular intervals.
Unknown?
Member
You were talking about turning surveillance off using sliders. This sliders don't make it some private haven, it's just a false sense of privacy.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Yeahhhhh, Apple will just monitor all your bodily functions with its watch or iPhone and harvest that data.
Apple is not the saviour either. Better look at Linux.
reinking
Gold Member
GriffinCorp
Member
No thanks! I'll pass on that mess.
LordBlodgett
Member
Crayon
Member
I disagree on that actually. At least, in the frame if practicality.
I could get more into this but I don't have a ton of time. I like to point to the story of eve online, though. They stopped working on the Linux version in favor of just making sure the game runs great through wine. And in the end, everyone was happier because that meant they weren't actually maintaining two versions and there was no Linux build to neglect out of priorities and fall behind.
And remember - Wine Is Not an Emulator!
(Proton is mostly wine with modifications that sets it up manually.)
Chiggs
Gold Member
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Kataploom
Gold Member
Joke as much as you want, these technologies ultimate goal is using them for political purposes, so I expect many people to be pursued just because they show some trends in their devices usage, even if they're not doing anything wrong.
Solarstrike
Gold Member
I'm using Windows 11 (Intel i9-12900KF 32gb RAM @3.20 GHz, RTX 3090 24gb VRAM) and it's seemingly the same shitty OS as 10 imho. Still lags and hiccups, random freezes. Running multiple windows is a chore same as before. Now I love my XBox don't get me wrong but the more Microsoft releases Windows and subsequent updates the more I think they just want to know wtf everyone is doing on their PC's in order to sell the data to the highest bidder. I mean wtf else is a company they're size doing?
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you're taking about two different things. this thread is about this specific feature that doesn't even exist yet, not windows security in general. it doesn't matter how much you generalize how "sliders" work, while it's true that disabling things using the "settings" app isn't the most reliable way (personally i disable services and registry keys), it's irrelevant to this thread.
Fahdis
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Outside of law enforcement agencies, employers, spy agencies, totalitarian governments and Guy Pearce from Memento, who the fuck wants the ability to track and “recall” their daily PC experiences?
Satya was sitting there trying to sell how awesome this is but I can’t remember a time where this would be needed. It’s like wearing a bodycam all day to assist with finding your car keys and wallet.
Satya was sitting there trying to sell how awesome this is but I can’t remember a time where this would be needed. It’s like wearing a bodycam all day to assist with finding your car keys and wallet.
Skifi28
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Fake
Member
Hope so.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
Nice feature... but I wouldn't trust them.
demigod
Member
Microsoft is bigger than the EU, they will just pull out.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Done locally, only works on Edge.
Even if its true, no way it stays just that way for long.
We can only hope, they go after way smaller transgressions.
Unless they’ve further clarified the situation, Nadella said the AI processing is done locally but he didn’t say anything regarding weather windows phones home with the results of the processing.
BacklashWave534
Member
If you think this won't be abused you are crazy. First, the feds will have access to literally every single action take on your computer. God forbid you download a Nintendo rom or host a media server for some TV shows you "aquired". Second, any threat actor who gains access to your computer will know exactly where to go to gain a treasure trove of information about you. Encrypted or not, Microsoft alwyas has a million security holes and i'm sure this will end up a mess like everything else they do.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Recall: Stealing everything you’ve ever typed or viewed on your own Windows PC is now possible.
Photographic memory comes to Windows, and is the biggest security setback in a decade.
doublepulsar.com
I recommend reading the entire article but the key take away is:
Supporting Kevin Beaumont’s claims, Arstechnica have done their own testing:
Windows Recall demands an extraordinary level of trust that Microsoft hasn’t earned
Op-ed: The risks to Recall are way too high for security to be secondary.
arstechnica.com
Accessing another user's Recall data from another admin account on the same PC. This UAC prompt is the only thing keeping me out, and it's easily dismissed. Once I access the folder, I can see every single screenshot plus the SQLite database with all the OCR data in it.
StereoVsn
Member
Recall: Stealing everything you’ve ever typed or viewed on your own Windows PC is now possible.
Photographic memory comes to Windows, and is the biggest security setback in a decade.
I recommend reading the entire article but the key take away is:
Supporting Kevin Beaumont’s claims, Arstechnica have done their own testing:
Windows Recall demands an extraordinary level of trust that Microsoft hasn’t earned
Op-ed: The risks to Recall are way too high for security to be secondary.
Of course MS spyware turns out easy to hack. Fucktards, the whole lot of them.
Sushi_Combo
Member
Glad to be out of the Windows space.
StereoVsn
Member
I still use it for gaming, Mac for everything else. Might be moving my gaming PC to Linux sooner than expected.
Topher
Gold Member
I'm using Linux Mint on my main PC. Gaming PC is still Windows. Linux Mint is pretty awesome, I have to say.
Chinese or Saudi would be okay too, just not American.
StereoVsn
Member
Yeah, Mint is pretty cool and Debian is fairly well supported as well in general. For a tech savvy person it’s definitely a good move, IMO.
My main reason for going Mac is the ecosystem. My family all have iPhones and iPads, I have that as well. So it’s very easy to throw a few Macs (and Apple TVs) and get very easy to use and to get support.
The big downside is the expense. That said the only really expensive one is my Mbpro, rest of the hardware isn’t too bad. However if you don’t already have an iPhone and maybe an iPad, I don’t think it’s worth it.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Where to disable son or s bitch?
Zathalus
Member
It is not released yet but Microsoft has created a guide already:
Privacy and control over your Recall experience - Microsoft Support
support.microsoft.com
