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Wipeout HD getting in-game ads!

I haven't gotten a Ps3 yet, and this was one of the games I wanted to pick up. I was just wondering what was at the top half of the loading screen before the ads?

If it was just blank or something that is ok I guess, but if it was something else (like a mini tutorial page reminding me what the controls are) that a noob like me would benefit from...

Then that is not cool.
 
aw. I just bought Fury a couple of days ago and now you tell me I could have had it for free in September (or is it just vanilla hd that's coming for free)?

Anyway, I haven't seen any ads yet (euro), so I can't comment, but I'd don't think I'd like it if the ad takes precedence over the actual time it takes to load a level - especially during reloads as they are much quicker and I very much enjoy that.
 
I haven't seen any ads in my game yet thank god, but I guess I will eventually. I'm not too unhappy about it if it doesn't add any longer loading times and if every little penny they earn this way is spent on delivering more content for this game. Unfortunately the first one already doesn't seem to be the case and who knows when, if ever, we get more content. So yeah this is pretty lame considering I bought this game ad-free. You either add ads day one and offer the game for even less or you don't add them at all. This is a disservice to the people who actually bought the bloody game.
 
This is crap, just like Xbox live commercials are crap.
The second we get complacent and accept this, there will be fucking ads everywhere.

I completely agree that Wipeout HD is one of the best value this gen, $20 for a game of $60 caliber. But retroactively patching in commercials is crap.
 
Paying for something with advertising in it is wrong. That's what makes this so bullshit.

I was going to buy Fury after hearing all the great things, but now I don't want to just to prove a point. I'm torn bigtime now.

Fucking Sony, making the easy decisions hard. What they do best these days.
 
RavenFox said:
F ads. and thats f'd up Sony Liverpool is doing this.
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I agree with you F' ads...... but as far as Sony Liverpool....although its a remake...they gave me a GREAT full game with online play and single player play and with Next Gen Graphics for $19.99.....they could have sold it for as a 59.99 BluRay disc.....they could have sold it for $39.99 like other PSN titles.....they could have sold it for $29.99.....but no....they sold this well known franchise for $19.99 at its launch.

on top of that....I believe, the game was FREE for anyone who signed up for an Australian account a while back....FREE.

so I'll give Sony Liverpool the benefit of the doubt in this situation.......but I don't expect all Sony titles to have ads like this.....maybe the low priced ones....or ones who run on dedicated servers (MAG?).....but I'm very much sure we won't be see loading video adds in games like Uncharted 2............
because there is no loading
:D
 
TheSeks said:
Uh, yes. Yes it does? Did you not see the youtubes/experince it yourself? The game stops loading the track TO FINISH WATCHING THE AD. Therefore: IT DOES AFFECT THE LOADING TIME.
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Not to the point where it would make me uninstall the game. It happens so rarely, it's really not as bothersome as you guys are making it out to be. I'm against in-game ads as well but this is typical GAF overreaction. You have guys on the fence now because of an ad, ONE f;n add? Their lose I guess, miss out on probably the best PSN game because it supports one State Farm ad during a rare loading screen:lol


Kuroyume said:
I can't wait for the Twilight ads in Uncharted 2.
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wow!
 
but sony would never molest me with ads!!! OMGFGGDOM THATS SOMETHING ONLY M$ DOES FUCK M$ THIS IS THEIR FAULT SOMEHOW FREEEEEDOOOOM
 
ZZMitch said:
I haven't gotten a Ps3 yet, and this was one of the games I wanted to pick up. I was just wondering what was at the top half of the loading screen before the ads?
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"Helpful Hints" which were actually useful for new players than "LOL SAVE MONEY, USE STATE FARM!"
 
In Wipeout and Wipeout XL for the PSone, they both had GIANT Red Bull billboards you would drive by. That's actually when I found out about the product.
 
goldenpp72 said:
but sony would never molest me with ads!!! OMGFGGDOM THATS SOMETHING ONLY M$ DOES FUCK M$ THIS IS THEIR FAULT SOMEHOW FREEEEEDOOOOM
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Sounds like you need to make another thread about this :p
 
goldenpp72 said:
but sony would never molest me with ads!!! OMGFGGDOM THATS SOMETHING ONLY M$ DOES FUCK M$ THIS IS THEIR FAULT SOMEHOW FREEEEEDOOOOM
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There's one in every thread. This was never about Microsoft vs Sony, but thanks anyways!
 
I thought the were well done, tbh. Anything to fund more Studio Liverpool projects and WipeOut content is fine by me. As enthusiasts we got to be realistic. Games are a business. We want amazing production values, but forget that game development costs are rising and rising.
 
TheSeks said:
"Helpful Hints" which were actually useful for new players than "LOL SAVE MONEY, USE STATE FARM!"
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That's too bad...

And how many people are gunna change their car insurance anyway after seeing this.

"ZOMG I just played a futuristic racing game and blew up my racer! I should go get State Farm now in case that happens IRL!"
 
To be perfectly honest, I have no qualms with this if it keeps the cost of games down to the extent that WipEout HD's has been. It's the lesser of two evils.
 
I would be fine by some low profile commercials in racing games (GT/Forza). They, IMO, actually increase the sense of realism a little bit, because, let's be real, when you watch F1 for example, you are bombarded by all kinds of commercials. In shooters, on the other hand, no way. Playing a space marine game #302 and watching the main character drinking Coca Cola or something like that would make me eject the game disc asap.
 
Maloney said:
If you can skip the add then I guess it's ok. However, this youtube video shows a loading time comparison and says that you can't skip the add.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX4f9zts6JM

I dont know whether I can skip the ad or not but if Ican't I will be majorly grumpy.
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mmm, the game has never loaded that fast for me [bottom screen]. before fury, after fury, with or with out the ad's.
 
CartridgeBlower said:
Paying for something with advertising in it is wrong. That's what makes this so bullshit.

I was going to buy Fury after hearing all the great things, but now I don't want to just to prove a point. I'm torn bigtime now.

Fucking Sony, making the easy decisions hard. What they do best these days.
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The adds suck. That's true. But maybe SL put out the game at such a low price, they have to get money from the adds.
 
FrostuTheNinja said:
In Wipeout and Wipeout XL for the PSone, they both had GIANT Red Bull billboards you would drive by. That's actually when I found out about the product.
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Now see that I'm ok with, just like I'm ok with the downloadable content for Wipeout Pure with the Puma ads. It's there from the start, nobody weasled it in via the back door and made a decition for you if you'd be annoyed with the ads to the point of skipping buying the product or not.

And for what it's worth, yes, I am annoyed at the load screen ads in the Youtube vid. Yes, I've bought WipeoutHD. Loadscreens are for me at best a time for a breather between the action and at worst an annoying distraction that kills immersion. Ads in loadscreens does not help, at all.
 
Look, I don't care about in game ads, but ads that effect load times? That's horse shit. It's bad enough we have commercials on TV, but now we are forced to watch ads during loadings screens (until they are finished none the less).
 
entrement said:
I thought the were well done, tbh. Anything to fund more Studio Liverpool projects and WipeOut content is fine by me. As enthusiasts we got to be realistic. Games are a business. We want amazing production values, but forget that game development costs are rising and rising.
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I think that people are more upset that they are adding ads into the game AFTER THE FACT. If they were upfront about it before I gave them money for the game AND the add-on DLC I'd be a bit more forgiving, but what they did is pretty slimy and disrespectful.
 
WTF at the defense force?

I like Wipeout HD as much as anyone. Wipeout HD is the best PS3 game and a damn good deal at $20. But Sony didn't do me any favors by releasing it at that price. They're not taking a loss on the game out of the kindness of their hearts (assuming they ARE in fact selling at a loss, which I find very hard to believe.)

Excusing this because... what the hell, it only cost $20? Ridiculous. Some of you need to get your heads examined. :lol
 
Draft said:
WTF at the defense force?

I like Wipeout HD as much as anyone. Wipeout HD is the best PS3 game and a damn good deal at $20. But Sony didn't do me any favors by releasing it at that price. They're not taking a loss on the game out of the kindness of their hearts (assuming they ARE in fact selling at a loss, which I find very hard to believe.)

Excusing this because... what the hell, it only cost $20? Ridiculous. Some of you need to get your heads examined. :lol
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they might be working for Sony...shhhhh
 
entrement said:
I thought the were well done, tbh. Anything to fund more Studio Liverpool projects and WipeOut content is fine by me. As enthusiasts we got to be realistic. Games are a business. We want amazing production values, but forget that game development costs are rising and rising.
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I don't think it would be as big an issue if Sony had been more open with its consumers about the inclusion of ad support in this game, or revealed it as the reason that Fury is only $10. I think a lot of people are mostly upset about being blindsided by it, since they paid for a item that's part of a product (video games) that rarely features real-life advertising (so far). As someone said earlier, you don't want to buy a DVD and then find that it includes the commercial breaks.
 
Wow, you have to wait 10 seconds longer just to see an ad? Well, I guess they need the money, but the game was so awesome without ads. I really hope that this doesn't become the norm. The makers of Wipeout HD just should make a Home space and have Wipeout HD shirts for avatars if they want money.
 
RedNumberFive said:
I think that people are more upset that they are adding ads into the game AFTER THE FACT. If they were upfront about it before I gave them money for the game AND the add-on DLC I'd be a bit more forgiving, but what they did is pretty slimy and disrespectful.
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Exactly.
 
Screw any debate over what is too far or not. Fortunately I hadn't yet bought Wipeout and will not be buying any of their games in the future.
 
hmm.. i watched the youtube video and I never had a race load *that* fast.

and it's a bummer about the ads, at first i didn't care but if it'll be more obtrusive then it takes away from the immersion.. unless they skin a car with ad logos set in the future o_O
 
Shambles said:
Screw any debate over what is too far or not. Fortunately I hadn't yet bought Wipeout and will not be buying any of their games in the future.
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^This.. I'm not defending the ad. But, replies like this are totally overblown.
 
Okay so I booted up HD, went into Fury and started playing detonator on Talon's Junction in the second event card. No ad. Restarted the event, no ad, just the plain old loading screen again. Sony Canada just slow on the up take?
 
jaundicejuice said:
Okay so I booted up HD, went into Fury and started playing detonator on Talon's Junction in the second event card. No ad. Restarted the event, no ad, just the plain old loading screen again. Sony Canada just slow on the up take?
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probably working out a deal with a Canadian insurance company ;)
 
Draft said:
WTF at the defense force?

I like Wipeout HD as much as anyone. Wipeout HD is the best PS3 game and a damn good deal at $20. But Sony didn't do me any favors by releasing it at that price. They're not taking a loss on the game out of the kindness of their hearts (assuming they ARE in fact selling at a loss, which I find very hard to believe.)

Excusing this because... what the hell, it only cost $20? Ridiculous. Some of you need to get your heads examined. :lol
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Wipeout HD has very little design and R&D work as far as game mechanics and tracks. It merely tweaks and adjusts existing PSP tracks, but Studio Liverpool is already able to make the game at a bargain basement rate compared to making an original HD Wipeout title for retail Bluray disc. So you can't really defend it with "you're getting a $60 game for $20!"

Wipeout HD is not a $60 HD retail game. Nowhere near it.

Now it is MORE AWESOME than most $60 HD retail games, yes, this is true, kudos to Studio Liverpool, etc, etc.

But it is indeed slimy to force ads on customers who already bought the game almost a year after it came out, long after its original development run finished, its budget was met, it received the lion's share of its sales...........

People should be angry at this. F**k people who are too naive and careless to comprehend why it's important. It's shit like this that is the future of adver-gaming and it's only going to get worse - much, much worse.
 
RedNumberFive said:
I think that people are more upset that they are adding ads into the game AFTER THE FACT. If they were upfront about it before I gave them money for the game AND the add-on DLC I'd be a bit more forgiving, but what they did is pretty slimy and disrespectful.
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This is probably where most of the reject stems from. While I partially understand the reasoning behind such a decision (because of my limited knowledge of the general financial aspects of the gaming industry), I do believe the way they handled this particular issue was unfortunate, to say the least. Firstly, because of the way they introduced the patch, and secondly, because of the way the ads are being handled, with increased loading times (something which I wasn't aware of in my first post) that would certainly be labeled as intrusive and immersion-breaking by many, many people.

But I guess the real culprit here could be the industry's current, ailing business model, although I'll be the first one to admit I'm on extremely thin ice by making this assertion.
 
I'm going to have to wait and see how well these ads blend in to the game before I make a final judgement, but after a few first thoughts, I'm not that fussed. For the £11.99 I paid for the game and the £7.99 I'll pay for the Fury update, we are still getting an amazing deal. We've got a much more fun and content for £20, than a lot of games that cost £40. The PSN itself is free, so I think if these Ads aren't completely random and don't fit in, why not?

The ads won't make the game any less fun for me to play.
 
Kaijima said:
Wipeout HD has very little design and R&D work as far as game mechanics and tracks. It merely tweaks and adjusts existing PSP tracks, but Studio Liverpool is already able to make the game at a bargain basement rate compared to making an original HD Wipeout title for retail Bluray disc. So you can't really defend it with "you're getting a $60 game for $20!"

Wipeout HD is not a $60 HD retail game. Nowhere near it.

Now it is MORE AWESOME than most $60 HD retail games, yes, this is true, kudos to Studio Liverpool, etc, etc.

But it is indeed slimy to force ads on customers who already bought the game almost a year after it came out, long after its original development run finished, its budget was met, it received the lion's share of its sales...........

People should be angry at this. F**k people who are too naive and careless to comprehend why it's important. It's shit like this that is the future of adver-gaming and it's only going to get worse - much, much worse.
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Nah, I am with you 100%. Wipeout HD looks awesome, but that's like 90% art and 10% tech. I in no way feel like $20 is some insane bargain basement price for Wipeout HD. I think $20 is exactly what a game like Wipeout HD should cost, and it's one of the reasons I bought on day one.
 
Wouldn't bother me if it didn't add up to 10 seconds to the loading screen--that is annoying. I'll still play the game, though, but I do wish the ads weren't there.
 
Wow, this makes me angry. I paid $20 (or whatever) for the ad-free game back in fall 2008. Now I have to watch fucking commercials whenever I play it? A total scumbag move by the developer.
 
John_B said:
No. They should stick to product placement. Commercials are not welcome. Period.

It needs to be killed now and not allowed to evolve.
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indeed, this could be the beginning of ads in many future PSN games if Sony has their way. sigh.
 
It's pretty under-handed to sneak ads in the backdoor after people have purchased both the original game and its expansion pack. Worse it's grossly stupid to have that interfere with the loading times.

I think if I start seeing advertisements in my loading screens I'm just going to uninstall Wipeout HD and Fury, not purchase any further installments of the game and be pretty wary of PSN purchases in general.

"Betty Crocker presents Fat Princess"

"Bud Light With Lime brings you Pain"
 
Wow, that looked quite annoying.

You see, I don't think most people would mind having them on the in-game bill-boards.

The salvation is in the fact that the at least expansion is brilliant as a game.
 
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