MikeE21286
Member
you know what.....if this is the way they can subsidize getting me a $20 game instead of maybe a $40 one.....then I don't really care at all.
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Wipeout HD getting in-game ads!
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MikeE21286 said:
How nice of you and Sony Liverpool to make that judgement for all consumers, aspecially Liverpool who in all their benevolence simply decided not to tell anoybody about the whole advertisement thing before hand. ... This is assuming that the whole $20-$40 thing is true and has nothing at all to do with a ressession and an industry howling for additional revenue streams. Yeah.
If it indeed slows down the loading for the ads, then it sucks. And we should not take this lightly.
If it was a free game that is supported by watching a 30 second ad every loading screen, that's something else entirely and would be welcomed by some if not many. Buy game for XX dolars, no ads, or play free by watching ads at loading screens. Good model to me.
If it was a free game that is supported by watching a 30 second ad every loading screen, that's something else entirely and would be welcomed by some if not many. Buy game for XX dolars, no ads, or play free by watching ads at loading screens. Good model to me.
Ploid 3.0
Member
That youtube vid with the comparison looked fake to me. The game never loaded that fast unless it was a reload of the same track like after the results screen. During said scenario I never got a ad. I've noticed that the ads were the same load length as the load screens without the ads although I didn't take out a stop watch. I just treated it like any other load screen, but with something to look at.
I love the new battle mode. Being able to flip your craft around and unleash quake while at the front is awesome! Powa
I love the new battle mode. Being able to flip your craft around and unleash quake while at the front is awesome! Powa
MikeE21286
Member
Eric_S said:
Obviously I only speak for myself.
NullPointer
Member
noire said:
Shady as fuck.
I've been loving this game for a while now. Showed it to my buddy last night and whammo-WTF-is-this-shit-picard action ensued.
Sale -1.
Ploid 3.0
Member
I wonder how many people here got the game via game share. Not saying that there's nothing wrong with the game ads but with the savy people of the gaming forum there has to be at least one here that game shared it for free. Maybe not received ti for free, but used it as currency to obtain another game.
Ploid 3.0 said:
Bought the at launch, and the add-on. I would never use game-share under any circumstance. I want a game bad enough I buy it. No one is saying in-game/loading screen ads are fine. But, on the same hand this issue is a little overblown.. Not buying Wipeout HD/Fury, and possibly not buying another game from Sony Liverpool. Really?
jaundicejuice
Member
I bought both Wipeout HD and Fury on their respective launches.
This sucks, sucks, SUCKS.
The first time I saw the ad, I swear to God I thought I was hallucinating. It just made no sense. I almost convinced myself it was a dream, then I saw it again.
1. Wipeout HD launched without ads.
2. These ads apparently only started to appear in the last week or so, after Fury was already reviewed by most sites. This is a shameless ninja patch by Sony.
3. No one was informed of the existance of ads when buying the game.
4. It seems to be US-only, why don't Europe and even Canada have it? Fuck you SCEA.
5. I paid $30 total for a downloadable game, not something I make a habit of doing, and this is how I'm repaid.
This had better stay out of other games. There must be a backlash over this, or it will continue to snowball.
The line must be drawn HERE! This far, no farther!
The first time I saw the ad, I swear to God I thought I was hallucinating. It just made no sense. I almost convinced myself it was a dream, then I saw it again.
1. Wipeout HD launched without ads.
2. These ads apparently only started to appear in the last week or so, after Fury was already reviewed by most sites. This is a shameless ninja patch by Sony.
3. No one was informed of the existance of ads when buying the game.
4. It seems to be US-only, why don't Europe and even Canada have it? Fuck you SCEA.
5. I paid $30 total for a downloadable game, not something I make a habit of doing, and this is how I'm repaid.
This had better stay out of other games. There must be a backlash over this, or it will continue to snowball.
The line must be drawn HERE! This far, no farther!
Arpharmd B
Banned
If there are going to be ads, then I prefer them in the loading screen.
That said, it's outrageous and distasteful in any shape or form. Keep that shit outta my games. Especially works of art like Wipeout HD.
We all need to raise hell otherwise shit like this is only going to get worse.
Oh, and if you really want to vomit, I suggest you go play Madden 10. There are snickers before, during, and after loading. It's really, really shameless. Even my non-gamer friends were laughing at it.
Here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KyUtA0AKXI&feature=related
"Statsifying"
"Chompetiton"
"Chews Wisely"
Completely and utterly disgusting. Every fucking time you play the game.
We need to tell game makers that a 60$ game is not a fucking TV show. Keep this fucking shit out of my games.
That said, it's outrageous and distasteful in any shape or form. Keep that shit outta my games. Especially works of art like Wipeout HD.
We all need to raise hell otherwise shit like this is only going to get worse.
Oh, and if you really want to vomit, I suggest you go play Madden 10. There are snickers before, during, and after loading. It's really, really shameless. Even my non-gamer friends were laughing at it.
Here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KyUtA0AKXI&feature=related
"Statsifying"
"Chompetiton"
"Chews Wisely"
Completely and utterly disgusting. Every fucking time you play the game.
We need to tell game makers that a 60$ game is not a fucking TV show. Keep this fucking shit out of my games.
And the more we take it the more we're going to be paying people money to watch their ads (EA Sports, NXE, Wipeout etc etc). Sure these games can be fun, but I have a lot of other fun things in my life I can spend money on without dealing with all this bullshit. If consumers push back enough to stop this trend from happening I'm more than happy to keep buying games. If not, i'm more than happy not buying their games either. The devs loss, not mine.
NullPointer
Member
Ads are bad enough, but at least you can make the choice about whether you'd mind them or not before purchase.
Ninja patching this in is all kinds of wrong and fucking shameless. That's the real problem here.
And at the very least - patching in new functionality like this, after the fact, should be grounds enough for a refund.
Ninja patching this in is all kinds of wrong and fucking shameless. That's the real problem here.
And at the very least - patching in new functionality like this, after the fact, should be grounds enough for a refund.
Classic_Gs
Member
Leave it to Sony to wreck a great game.Mahadev said:
Haven't come across any ads yet thankfully (UK). Seems like there is no avoiding them later down the line though...
Even for something purely digital I felt Wipeout HD was great value and had I known before of the soon to be in-game ads, I would still have purchased it. But shoving ads into the ad-free game everyone has already bought is fucking disgusting. If I do notice any difference in track load times... well what can we do now... rage in caps?
Even for something purely digital I felt Wipeout HD was great value and had I known before of the soon to be in-game ads, I would still have purchased it. But shoving ads into the ad-free game everyone has already bought is fucking disgusting. If I do notice any difference in track load times... well what can we do now... rage in caps?
RedNumberFive
Banned
Shurs said:
Between NeoGAF and the 1up podcasts the word "hyperbole" is grossly overused! Believe me, you're not the first to notice.
Psy-Phi
Member
This reminds me of XBL and it's non-gaming adverts...people paid for that already. Some say it's no big deal, others are in an uproar. Personally I don't want ads in anything that I pay for. If they want to add the ads, put them in the new subcribers or new purchasers and offer them a higher price point for ad free. Makes it an incentive to become a member or buy it sooner than later too.
Basically be open about it, and charge more for the non-ad version.
Though in a racing game, ads don't feel so bad. Race tracks around the world have ads all over them. We see them in the various GT games we play. I don't mind them in a racing title even if it's "the future", so long as it doesnt' break the continuity of the unvierse laid before us. E.G. F-Zero would seem jacked up with ads from "earth bound" advertisers. But for some reason it works in Wipeout. It worked in SSX too.
Just keep ads out of my FPS games unless the world feels like "this" one, and not some foreign one. Gears of War...no ads. Halo..while on earth...perfectly acceptable.
Basically be open about it, and charge more for the non-ad version.
Though in a racing game, ads don't feel so bad. Race tracks around the world have ads all over them. We see them in the various GT games we play. I don't mind them in a racing title even if it's "the future", so long as it doesnt' break the continuity of the unvierse laid before us. E.G. F-Zero would seem jacked up with ads from "earth bound" advertisers. But for some reason it works in Wipeout. It worked in SSX too.
Just keep ads out of my FPS games unless the world feels like "this" one, and not some foreign one. Gears of War...no ads. Halo..while on earth...perfectly acceptable.
Macho Madness
Member
It's only okay to bitch about advertising when microsoft does it.
Ploid 3.0
Member
For euro people, did you guys get a patch yet? If not just don't download it if you only play offline. I play only offline and I don't really pay attention to my flist laps and records. Maybe that will prevent ads. It sucks that you won't be able to play online without updating though.
Arpharmd B
Banned
That's from the article.
Unless there is a backlash, it's only going to get worse. Dairy Queen ads in Fat Princess, Better Home and Garden ads during Flower ...
Crye said:
If it hits the EU, I'm pretty sure you can push legal actions on the grounds of false advertisement or some such. There may well be a clause in the EULA that talks about this, but if it's considered "anti consumer" by it's form or it being burried in a gazillion lines of text that no sane man would read, there is most likely a case to be had.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Psy-Phi said:
Now that would be a great idea. I would buy the cheaper one but no one would be able to complain. However it will most likely never happen. Especially if it's a blu ray disk & psn release. Gamestop would complain about the cheaper psn version.
Arpharmd B said:
This would have me laughing.
K2Valor said:
I don't. It's an ad on a loading screen. I don't know about you, but I'm not even paying attention to the TV during the loading screen ... it's your chance to check twitter between games :lol
Edit: lawl, caught with the stealth edit. I thought I was playing into the GAF hyperbole meme :lol
Seriously though. I really don't care and I had to pay for both Wipeout HD and Fury, so I probably have the right to be upset.
Macho Madness
Member
Mr JaredMr Jared said:
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Ploid 3.0
Member
Mr Jared said:
I was thinking about Half-Life 2's loading screen. Red screen, I'd love to have something to pay attention to during that. It would be a bonus to me. However I just plain like videos that play during loading screens. It helps the time fly by. Too bad namco have the monopoly on the game during loading thing. There's a game that has something interesting during loading that's almost like the namco thing, I forgot which at this time though. Oh killzone 2's holograph loading screen. I loved that.
Arpharmd B
Banned
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I never did that before, because it looked like too much of a hassle, but I will thank Sony Liverpool this developpement by 'gamingsharing' this game with people, in exchange of nothing at all. gg Sony Liverpool.
It is after all, gaf-mod and sony-approved to do this. I suggest other gaffers do the same.
It is after all, gaf-mod and sony-approved to do this. I suggest other gaffers do the same.
MomoPufflet
Member
BattleMonkey said:
And here comes Ad-apologist Age to set things right! Who are we to question these things?