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[Wishmaster92]

This thread is mostly for people who are curious as to what visual fidelity these new systems will bring. Apart from the obvious framerate/aa/resolution improvements some games might resort to new graphical effects exclusively on the new consoles. For example, both consoles are now capable of all those crazy tech demos from 2012-2013 without any downgrade.

Deep Down reveal: GTX 570, 8gb ram.

The most impressive aspect was the amazing GI it had at the reveal and the supposed tessellated characters.
Source: The demo can run on a PC with an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 570, 8 GB of RAM, and an Intel Core i7 CPU. The development machines used at Capcom have Geforce GTX 680 and GTX 590 GPUs.

Watch_Dogs 2012: GTX 680

The reveal had better post processing, lighting, particle effects, motion blur, higher res texture, better skin shaders/sss.
Source: Watch Dogs was initially demoed using high-end PCs, rumoured to be using Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 graphics cards, which stood in for the closed-box capabilities of the Xbox One and PlayStation 4. Given the raw power in these PC-based set-ups is much greater than either of the next-gen systems, there is some concern that what people were seeing might not have been representative of the final product, with potentially higher frame-rates and higher grade visuals being the result.

Agni's Philosophy: GTX 680, 1.8 VRAM

The Luminous Engine was noticeably downgraded as a result of current gen consoles not being up to par. It was using a combination of 8xmsaa and an fxaa pass which is one of the reasons why the hair looks more impressive than in FF XV. Luminous received further downgrades:

The demo pushed ten million polygons per frame, with approximately 300,000 to 400,000 polygons for each character model. The entire city in the demo was tessellated.There is a scene where 100,000 illuminated firefly-like insects appear on screen, each one a full polygon mesh model with body and wings, which proceed to merge to generate a summoned monster. Production for the demo began in June 2011, and was initially produced as pre-rendered CGI animation by Visual Works before Square Enix attempted to reproduce it entirely in real-time with the Luminous Studio engine, using the same assets as the CGI version. With FF XV those numbers came down. Reduced to 5 million polygons per frame and character models this time having 100,000 polygons.

Source: Agni's Philosophy runs at 60FPS on a GTX 680, uses 1.8GB VRAM

Star Wars: 1313 GTX 680/ 13GB RAM
Incredible animations rivaling uncharted 4 even, motion blur and lighting. The density in the demo is insane and it was only running in UE3.
Source: Pocket-lint has managed to get hold of the specs inside the Nvidia rigs at E3 and while not being total bank breakers, clearly the looks of 1313 are only possible on top-end PCs.
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/19443-e3-2012-handson-star-wars-1313-is-the-most-stunning-game-at-show/

UE4 Elemental Demo: GTX 680
Edit: Wrong info

All of these tech demos on the gtx 680's seem to be running some form of realtime Global Illumination. Now we get into the Xbox Scorpio's territory. The one tech demo i'm talking about is of course the UE4 Kite demo. Now with the Scorpio being around 6TF and the Neo 4.2TF this is the one tech demo the Neo will have no chance of running. The demo was originally running on a Titan X. With some optimizations i could definitely see a game exclusively made for Scorpio to have the Kite's demo fidelity and scale.

UE4 Kite demo GTX Titan

Nice looking global illumination, amazing draw distance.

Let me know if i missed anything.

 

[Voost Kain]

Did you just compare a console spec boost to the visuals of a game running on a TITAN? Don't think you can make that wish come true

EVERYONE LOSIN DAY MINDS! UP IN HERE UP IN HERE!

 

[Kurdel]

A better comparison would be Witcher 3 on high and ultra.

These games will still need to run on first gen PS4s and Xbox's.

 

[TheSpoiler]

A Titan bro.

A Titan.

 

[K' Dash]

Dude, this is NOT how it works.

 

[dallow_bg]

Oh man...

 

[Rebel Leader]

UE4 Kite demo GTX Titan

I'm sorry... but what? No seriously... WHAT!?

 

[[Agent]ZeroNine]

I see CG content, wut?

Slightly off topic: This brings me back to high school when in the cafeteria post console reveal.
All the boys hovering over a game magazine taking out of our asses in regards to graphics.

 

[xxracerxx]

No.

 

[Voost Kain]

Guy may have gad a bit too much to drink.

 

[Fbh]

Yeah I doubt it.
It's one thing to make a short animation that looks like that and it's another thing to build an entire game like that. Even if the animation was real time

Plus neither Sony or Microsoft seem to be willing to just abandon their current user base (third parties even less so) so they have to continue to make games that can easliy be scaled back to current consoles.

You should be expecting something like this from the Neo:

At 1080p and with good frame rate. And then a 900P Ps4 version dropping below 30fps during thaat scene

 

[RK9039]

The power of 8GB GDDR5

Spoiler

part two

.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

The Deep down graphics only next real gen

 

[OdysseusVA]

Nope

 

[SgtCobra]

No way in hell, in 2 gens perhaps, if we're lucky.

 

[Wishmaster92]

Did you just compare a console spec boost to the visuals of a game running on a TITAN?

EVERYONE LOSIN DAY MINDS! UP IN HERE UP IN HERE!

The demo was running on a titan, does that mean it can't run on anything but? No... like I said with some optimizations the Scorpio can get close with the rumored 6tf.

 

[K' Dash]

Yeah I doubt it.
It's one thing to make a short animation that looks like that and it's another thing to build an entire game like that. Even if the animation was real time

Plus neither Sony or Microsoft seem to be willing to just abandon their current user base (third parties even less so) so they have to continue to make games that can easliy be scaled back to current consoles.

You should be expecting something like this from the Neo:

At 1080p and with good frame rate. And then a 900P Ps4 version dropping below 30fps during thaat scene

Oh God, the misinformation and bullshit in this thread...

 

[RickyRozay]

Yeah I doubt it.
You should be expecting something like this from the Neo:

At 1080p and with good frame rate. And then a 900P Ps4 version dropping below 30fps during thaat scene

Acceptable.

 

[like.a.ser]

You are setting your expectations WAY too high.

 

[Ricky Ricardo]

Spoiler

Thread backfire

OP, we might see some improvements to global illumination, like what Remedy did with Quantum Break, tessellation, but anything running on a Titan will not be reproduced at a 1:1 ratio without downgrades, even if the Scorpio is 6TF.

 

[afternoon delight]

Misleading thread title.

 

[brawly]

That Deep Down reveal running on a single 570? come on

 

[oti]

Nein.

 

[sunshine and gasoline]

Eh. Not going to expect anything along the lines of the Kite demo. That's hoping for a bit too much in my opinion.

 

[RoKKeR]

Um, what.

Lmao. Sorry OP, that's not how it works. More power does not equal bullshit/pre-rendered E3 demos.

 

[120v]

lol.. c'mon

i think a good analogue would be current games running on a 970 with a mix of high and ultra. that's about it

 

[nynt9]

I think you don't know how a Titan compares to other GPUs OP.

 

[Voost Kain]

The demo was running on a titan, does that mean it can't run on anything but? No... like I said with some optimizations the Scorpio can get close with the rumored 6tf.

No man, It'd be a decent powerhouse but you're expecting way to much. Read a few posts up.

 

[Fbh]

Oh God, the misinformation and bullshit in this thread...

Why? Seems realistic to me.
At least more so than expecting full RPG's to look like the Deep Down reveal

 

[DrkSage]

But... Can they run crysis?

 

[GravityInsanity]

 

[Noobcraft]

Something of Kite Demo quality should definitely be possible on something with 6TF.
https://youtu.be/lmhjqLxRIPs

 

[BennyBlanco]

You have to keep in mind if the leaks were accurate the CPU is still fisher price tier

 

[Wishmaster92]

Um, what.

Lmao. Sorry OP, that's not how it works. More power does not equal bullshit/pre-rendered E3 demos.

Which were pre-rendered? Each one of them have specs if you look for them online.

 

[Leafhopper]

Lol

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Which were pre-rendered? Each one of them have specs if you look for them online.

Literally all of them are prerendered.

 

[capitalCORN]

If these consoles can do 4k at 60fps, I'll be happy.

 

[RedRum]

I'm expecting maybe a 1080p standard with a locked 30 for the new consoles depending on the graphics they want to push. Other than that, Sorry Wishmaster. You're out of wishes today.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Yeah I doubt it.
It's one thing to make a short animation that looks like that and it's another thing to build an entire game like that. Even if the animation was real time

Plus neither Sony or Microsoft seem to be willing to just abandon their current user base (third parties even less so) so they have to continue to make games that can easliy be scaled back to current consoles.

You should be expecting something like this from the Neo:

At 1080p and with good frame rate. And then a 900P Ps4 version dropping below 30fps during thaat scene

You uh...really shouldn't expect visuals like that. Especially not flame effects like that. Also really not how it works OP, the majority of those were tech demos. And the only playable ones were early prototypes that would've been hit hard by the realities of games development.

 

[Oh God Why]

Back to square one, huh? Look forward to seeing these pictures in the future ps5 and xboxtwo thread.

 

[kpzero]

I'm sorry... but what? No seriously... WHAT!?

I think you overestimate the original Titan. In most games of the past few years, the 290/390 (just slightly higher than supposed NEO specs if it is using the same gcn version as ps4) beats out the Titan.

Edit: The real issue is still the cpu

Also I see it is Titan X. The quote and the underline/bolded part just said Titan.

 

[ClayKavalier]

If these consoles can do 4k at 60fps, I'll be happy.

Prepare for disappointment. Seems doubtful they'll even be able to do anything at 30fps at 4k, let alone 60.

You uh...really shouldn't expect visuals like that.

Really? That doesn't seem too far removed from Uncharted to me. There's current gen games that look pretty damn amazing and Neo/ Xbox 1.5 are supposedly 2-4 times more powerful.

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

I was expecting a side by side comparison of PS4 games screenshots and the same games running on PC with slightly bumped graphics settings.

 

[Inuhanyou]

Comparing tech demos running in confined conditions to real games...never wise.

That's without saying those tech demos also ran on i7s and huge globs of ram that won't be available in consoles for a while yet

 

[Hoje0308]

If these consoles can do 4k at 60fps, I'll be happy.

You're gonna be sad.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

No

 

[Dennis]

LMAO

They won't look this good, OP.

Sorry.

 

[meanspartan]

Buy new consoles to meet the promise they made for your current 2.5 year old consoles.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

To approximate a Scorpio screenshot, take a Neo screenshit and add black crush.

 

[CyberPunked]

If these consoles can do 4k at 60fps, I'll be happy.

You should be happy if you get 1080p 60fps considering devs will use the power for superior visuals.