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World's Top 50 Restaurants 2013.
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Naha, Next, Blackbird, Everest, L2O, Spiaggia.
Which is why the "Michelin Bib Gourmand" exists.
I think they call that "Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives"
AlexMeloche
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Ctrl+F Canada.
Completely different.
Places at the level of Ssam Bar, Mission Chinese, The Publican, Girl & the Goat, Hot Chocolate et al get the Bib Gormound, which is effectively the "great cuisine at reasonable prices without all the fuss" designation.
So wait. You pay two hundred for the menu, but get to pick anything from it?
That doesn't sound too bad.
thekonamicode
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You'll get 'em next year Guy!
I don't think of any of those as destination... well, L2O was back when Laurent was still around. Fwiw, I think NYC has 3 destination eateries.. JG, Daniel and Le Bernadin while phenomenal don't rise to that level for me.
Chicago has a really good food scene, probably 3rd to San Fran.
brotherbean
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Dat Donkey Sawssss is capital-M-Money all the way to flavor town.
Krauser Kat
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Alinea being so low is a fucking travesty.
I was expecting Atelier to make it. Why isn't it there?
XiaNaphryz
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Was just at Atelier Crenn in SF this past weekend. Two star Michelin, we had an excellent time. Gonna hit French Laundry again later this November. Hopefully it'll be white truffle season at the time!
Nope, but two are Heston Blumenthal's.
distantmantra
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I ate at #78 (Hertog Jan) in Bruges. It was really good.
I was just giving you a hard time. I think the list is comprised mostly of fine dining establishments.
I might come into town for a rib burger from Blackbird. ; ) I grew up eating peasant food -- from shawarma carts in Arabia, tamale stands in TX. So I'm a total street food urchin. We recently got the chef's table at Volt and the whole time I was thinking that, while I appreciated the experience, I would've preferred a roast beef sandwich from Lunchbox. My favorite "new places" are probably Mission Street NYC and Haven, a Maryland pizzeria opened by some guy once involved with Frank Pepe's.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
From what I've heard it's pretty much French Laundry East, in which case the full tasting menu is pretty damn good. Best I ever had no question, but I have yet to go to any of the other top fine dining places out of the US.
systemfehler
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I wouldn't mind the money (and you have to go beyond 200 if you actually want to drink something aswell) but often reality and the reputation/rating don't match. For a birthday dinner we went to a rather "fancy" which was rated in the Gault-Millau and 20 people left disappointed. The service was excellent and the atmosphere aswell but the food was lacking and after "complaining" the cook was not even willing to admit he made a mistake and apologize. Serving meat raw and cold without asking how people want it must not happen at this price range neither does risotto with a hint of chocolate have to be drained in chocolate (maybe that is a subjective complaint but again the majority did not like this).
Learn2read
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Serious question, but what are the portions like at these places?
Do you actually leave sated or is it more about the taste experience?
Do you actually leave sated or is it more about the taste experience?
Diprosalic
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But Jiro has three stars.
depends, in many places you get small dishs but many of them. i have never left a place like that feeling hungry, far from it.
XiaNaphryz
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Individual portions may be small, but they are packed with flavor and there are multiple courses. You usually will feel full by the end, especially with the longer tasting menus.
Here's an older writeup of one of my previous French Laundry trips: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=19896769#post19896769
UltraMagnanimous
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The Ledbury is fantastic. Highly recommended to London GAFers who want the Michelin experience or want to really impress.
cloudwalking
300chf ain't shit to me
Have you ever been to Schloss Schauenstein? (#42 and the only one in Switzerland) I really want to check it out now, don't personally know anyone who's been though.
Diprosalic
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oh yes
not too long ago and it was fantastic i can only recommend it, especially if 300CHF ain't shit to you.Then Chicago's just the food town for you. It's definitely the most casual food scene of the big food destinations in the city. With the exception of about 6 or so of the elite downtown restaurants, you can walk-in to anywhere in jeans and a button up. I have never, ever felt underdressed in a restaurant in this city.
Avec, Girl & the Goat, Publican, Longman & Eagle, etc. are largely about comfortable, great quality food from great providers/sources that you can share with friends.
Every tasting menu that I've had (10-13 courses), I've been beyond stuffed at the end of it. And that's after 2-3 hours of dining.
WeAreStarStuff
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Why do they list "New York" instead of "United States?" Everything else on there has the country of the establishment, not its city.
cloudwalking
300chf ain't shit to me
oh yes
Thanks, I will definitely make it a point to go there. And 300 chf definitely ain't shit when it comes to awesome food
Like others said, Jiro got 3 stars. There are also several hole in the wall restaurants all over the world, including some ramen places, that got a Michelin star.
I typically leave not wanting to eat for a few days, especially from the French places.
If you do a 3 or 4 course you are looking at pretty decent sized portions of rich food.
If you go to a tasting you will have 10-20 plates of 3-4 bites each. Per Se seems to revel in making you explode with desert at the end. I think they brought out 5 or 6 off menu desert courses.
I've eaten at 6 3* places (some more than once), a good chunk of 1* eateries (maybe 10-15?) and a good number of places that would merit a * if Michelin had a guide out in their city...
I have left hungry one time in all of that just once... and that was from Masa which was about 15 pieces of sushi over the course of two hours
Diprosalic
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Thanks, I will definitely make it a point to go there. And 300 chf definitely ain't shit when it comes to awesome food
i won't mention how much we spent there because gaf would think i'm crazy.
pretty cool blog post about it:
http://www.highendfood.org/de/2012/10/29/schauenstein/
The whole food poisoning incident didn't even influence the decision according to the owners of Noma.
Angelus Errare
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I've been to number 6 and number 20. Ballin!
Because everyone is familiar with NY and know where it is I'd imagine.
More often than not it does. I've been to a few expensive places via my girlfriend who has wealthy parents who enjoy fine dining and our own splurging here and there. I've only walked away disappointed maybe once.
cloudwalking
300chf ain't shit to me
With your av I picture Roger Federer saying this and it sounds absurd, haha
Thanks, I'll give it a read. The photos look incredible!
Conciliator
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I know this list is bullshit because the mexican restaurant a few miles down the street is the best restaurant in the world.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Lol. I've always been curious to try a 'top-tier' restaurant though. I hear the difference in quality is vast. In other words, there is excellent food reasons these are usually picked.
Etrian Oddity
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The Michelin guide is, by its very nature, a publicity guide made to further its own agenda. It is very euro-centric (namely, French-centric due to the fact it's a French company); and while it may still be considered a standard, it has largely become antiquated by those who don't worship French cuisine. Even classically-trained legends like Marco Pierre White mostly scoff when Michelin stars are mentioned nowadays.
It has a purpose... but it is not the be-all/end-all litmus test it would have you believe.
It has a purpose... but it is not the be-all/end-all litmus test it would have you believe.
Dark Octave
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None of these have anything on Roberto's taco shop on the corner of 60th and University, faided paint and all.
Michelin hasn't made their way to Atlanta yet. Atlanta is pretty casual too, and "pretentious" type restaurants have mostly died out there in favor of more laid back places that serve great food, but at 1/4 the price.
Brianemone
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Interesting list as always.
There are very obvious flaws in how it is made but I think that as a whole it gives a fair representation of the food industries trends among its elite players.
The vote gathering circuit though is one I would love to see gotten rid of. You'll see the MAD food become less and less popular with something like MADRID Fusion or similar taking its place again as the prominent event.
My prediction for next year is to see Central/South American restaurants rise even higher with Attica going into the top ten as well.
There are very obvious flaws in how it is made but I think that as a whole it gives a fair representation of the food industries trends among its elite players.
The vote gathering circuit though is one I would love to see gotten rid of. You'll see the MAD food become less and less popular with something like MADRID Fusion or similar taking its place again as the prominent event.
My prediction for next year is to see Central/South American restaurants rise even higher with Attica going into the top ten as well.
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