lol actually i left out re2, re3, and ff7 part 1 because they released last gen even though they were released in 2019- 2020You really had to try to make the list big lol
Ehhhh I don’t know what to say.lol actually i left out re2, re3, and ff7 part 1 because they released last gen even though they were released in 2019- 2020
They could just re-release it on modern systems, then. The original is still cool as shit and plays nicely and this remake doesn't really seem to be doing anything new or interesting. The small changes that can be seen on those gameplay videos look token at best but the basic gameplay loop is literally the same. That shit ain't RE2 remake, that's for sure.I don’t full agree with that, my problem with TLOU and Horizon remakes are that these games still can be played on PS5 but not with Dead Space.
Watch the latest re4 remake trailers.
That's why people love remakes.
Resident evil 2 was amazing. What I find in a lot of cases is my nostalgia glasses always beat the touched up graphics of a remaster.
To me, it depends on how well they're done really. There are quite a few things to take into consideration. How did the graphics and controls age? How difficult is it to play on a modern PC or console? Is it really a necessary thing to do when a remaster would suffice?
Would a Bloodborne remake be necessary? Probably not, but it could absolutely use an up-res and boost to frame rate (remaster). If they hadn't remastered TLOU1 for PS4, then a full-on remake would have been welcomed.
One game that I wish would receive a remaster/remake is 3D Dot Game Heroes. It has a stupid name, but the game is an awesome homage to The Legend of Zelda. Unfortunately, it's locked to PS3 (or PC emulation, which is a pain in the ass).
Yeah, and I would agree that a remake is also a-ok in my book - as long as it's a transformative work that builds upon the original in a significant way. Resident Evil games are like the gold standard here (well, except for RE3 remake) but other good examples of a good (or at least justified) remake would be Mafia: Definitive Edition, Final Fantasy VII Remake, or MGS: The Twin Snakes. You can debate whether those games are an improvement over the original, but you can't deny that their makers actually put some legit effort into creating a new kind of experience in a familiar setting.Yes and No, I think most games that are remembered fondly deserve remakes, they're a good way to make a great game accessible to a modern audience. The main issue I have with remakes is when they are way too soon. I think at least 2 gens need to be between a game and it's remake (so currently that would mean early 360/PS3 games or earlier). Remasters are generally fine any time as long as they're advertised as such and are mostly upresses and maybe some QOL tweaks and meant to bring games from inaccessible consoles to modern consoles, but otherwise the same game (i.e. doesn't take a ton of development resources away from other games).
Video games should be accessible via modern consoles, and some games have aged terribly and would massively benefit from a remake. I really only have a problem with things like Last of Us being remastered/remade twice in 9 years (especially when they could've put that effort into a high quality remake/remaster of the Uncharted trilogy or Jak and Daxter games), or the plethora of One/PS4 to SX/PS5 "remasters"
No. Remakes are great entry points for 1st timers, and for fans of the game that wish to replay it with visual improvements. Ppl that dont find them necessary can just ignore them and look for something new to play.
Do you like Sony's "remakes" of Demon's Souls?
We have no idea what is going on with Horizon other than rumor. So we have 1 game that wasn't a remake.
Remaking LOU1 makes more sense given the proximity of time to LOU2 and the upcoming HBO show.
The same with Uncharted 4 porting to PS5/PC makes sense with the movie's release.
Would have taken more time to fully remake Uncharted 1 to the point it needs to be
I was referencing Demon's Souls. I think TLoU felt different because it was already remastered in 2014 for the PS4 and it was in a pretty good state. Regarding your other questions, while you are right that the PS5 wont get magically stronger, the devs will, games by the end of the generation always look much better than the games from the first couple of years running on the same hardware.yea that doesn't really make any sense as you could argue the very same thing about SotC or Demon Souls or Dead Space (which ever you might be referencing)
To say The Last Of Us 1 is too soon and its about to be decade old is as silly as saying its too soo for Dead Space or Demon Souls or something.
SoTC made on PS2, remade on PS4
Demon Souls made on PS3, remade on PS5
Dead Space made on PS3, remade on PS5
The Last Of Us made on PS3, remade on PS5
You are merely looking at the same generational gap from original release, to remake. So this "too soon" thing imho has little merit as the fucking PS5 isn't just magically getting stronger by the year or something, its a set thing and any remake coming this year or next year or next year after that...if its on PS5, its the same fucking system, using this weird ass logic, you might as well not play it and then wait 4 years and then buy it on PS5 and be like "ahhh yes, enough TIME has passed" lol
It would be like saying, the community would be ok with it, if it released on PS4 instead, oh but in 2025, but shit enough time passed though right? Thats the main point, time? Thats the key factor? Are some of you 100% sure about that or? Is it not new hardware to rebuild the game on? So we've seen remakes made in less time from those originals to remakes.
Resident Evil 2002
Metal Gear Solid 1
I'm 99.9% sure many will be able to live knowing that at almost 10 years, a remake was made several generations apart
The game industry caught up with the movie industry way too fast...I've got nothing against repackaging old games to make them run on modern systems and with some things refurbished (resolution, framerate, controls) so that you could comfortably replay or experience those classics for the first time.
You know, kinda like what Night Dive or Beamdog are doing.
But publishers really need to pack that remake shit in. It's a waste of resources that would be better spent making something new and it's rarely even worth the hassle.
I get why publishers are doing it. To them, playing to our naive nostalgia is
But for someone such as myself, who is just bored of seeing the same shit over and over, it's annoying as hell. I think I preferred when they were making clones of whatever watershed title was popular at the time (COD4, Gears, God of War, GTA, etc.) It was at least SOMETHING. And now they don't even bother with that. They just put fresh makeup on some old corpse of a game and put it out again because they know we're idiots and we'll buy it again.
I love remakes of old masterpieces.
TimeOP, what resources are being wasted on with these remakes? We don't have such information to confirm that anything is being wasted.
Yeah I'm with you on this one, we are getting far too many remakes.
Some of them are great, like the RE ones, but others like TLOU or Dead Space seem unnecessary to me, as those are basically the same games but with better graphics afaik.
The last of us remake is a scam without question.
Ehh I'd argue there is not enough of them. There are plenty of titles I'd like too see being Remade or Remastered.Yeah I'm with you on this one, we are getting far too many remakes.
Some of them are great, like the RE ones, but others like TLOU or Dead Space seem unnecessary to me, as those are basically the same games but with better graphics afaik.
I think it’s awful timing calling it a bad idea considering we got two highly anticipated remakes of very beloved games coming in 2023. Say this after they remake Chrono Trigger.
Chrono Trigger is one of Square’s most enjoyable JRPG’s. I bet it gets brought up a lot, considering how Square is so in touch with their legacy titles. It’s also an industry that may or may not impress you with its latest hit when it’s all said and done.Too soon, we just got a remaster a few years ago of it, THUS TOO SOON! /s
Chrono Trigger is one of Square’s most enjoyable JRPG’s. I bet it gets brought up a lot, considering how Square is so in touch with their legacy titles. It’s also an industry that may or may not impress you with its latest hit when it’s all said and done.
If they wanted to make better games wouldn’t they have done that already? We would all love a better entry, but there’s times when revisiting something in the past is a much better experience.
They were bad at launch and for a while, but I recently played through them, and a lot of stuff got patched. I had a blast playing them all again, and I like that they preserved the old look and feel while fixing things like blocky hands and old textures and raising the resolution.As long as they are done good, i don’t mind. I wanted remakes of the PS2 GTA games, and then Rockstar takes a huge giant dump on fans heads with gta ”definitive“ edition.