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Would you date a woman who used to be a man?

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Chojin

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Its definitely one of those situations where I'd have to be in before I would know the outcome. I could never rule out not loving someone because of their gender, I'm straight as far as I can tell ::eyes Kyouji hush you:: but who knows, if I genuinely loved someone. Well just take it from Guitarwolf in Wild Zero: "AAAAIIIISU! Love has no borders, nationalities, or genders!"

Toss up, literally.
 
Shouta said:
Some post-transformation women are almost indistinguishable from the genetic real deal. Tsubaki Ayana, a model that seems to be on TV rather frequently here in Japan as of late, looks and sounds like any other woman but is genetically male (she's post-op now). It's pretty amazing but she probably has always had a very feminine look. It's rather amazing and the fact she's got the same chromosomes I do hardly registers anymore to me. :lol

Thank you, Japan.

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Dali

Member
doodyball5 said:
NO MEANS YES
Okay, you got me. But if we ever broke up I'd have to kill "her" to make sure no one ever knows the truth.

Chojin said:
Its definitely one of those situations where I'd have to be in before I would know the outcome. I could never rule out not loving someone because of their gender, I'm straight as far as I can tell ::eyes Kyouji hush you:: but who knows, if I genuinely loved someone. Well just take it from Guitarwolf in Wild Zero: "AAAAIIIISU! Love has no borders, nationalities, or genders!"

Toss up, literally.
This reminds me of this Loius C.K. stand up I saw the other night. He had like a ten minute bit about sucking duck. At one point he said even though he considers himself a heterosexual male, he didn't want to rule out the possibility that he'd suck a dick. He just felt that he'd never in all his life seen a cock that swept him with the urge to give a blow job. It may be out there somewhere.
 
It really sounds like a harsh life to lead. I mean, pre-op life doesn't sound terribly pleasant, but I always assumed that the trouble ended there, and that after surgery, a transsexual person could get on with a more or less normal life. There's the children issue, but normal couples sometimes can't conceive, too, and there's always adoption. Not really an issue for me, it's not like girl + girl = children anyway.

I suppose something like this will always be an issue for a lot of people, any way you dice it. More for me! Please send the pretty, passable-looking ones my way. We'll start with Harisu.

Also, Jiji is my hero.
 

Chojin

Member
Dali said:
Okay, you got me. But if we ever broke up I'd have to kill "her" to make sure no one ever knows the truth.


This reminds me of this Loius C.K. stand up I saw the other night. He had like a ten minute bit about sucking duck and at one point said he didn't want to say he'd never ever do it, just that he'd never in all his life seen a cock that swept him with the urge to suck. It may be out there somewhere.


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methane47

Member
NO FREAKING WAY!!!...

thats why anyone from Thailand or Brazil I need to see a birth certificate before any baseball is played.
 

Shouta

Member
jiji said:
Thank you, Japan.

Yeah, seriously. She's better looking than a lot of the women that are actually genetically women. My only problem is that she gets nasally when she talks for long spurts and it kind of is cute but also annoying.
 

Kaeru

Banned
and get analsex every day?
Hells yeah
Thats like when Charlie got his golden ticket to the chocolate factory.
 

Ether_Snake

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Kaeru said:
and get analsex every day?
Hells yeah
Thats like when Charlie got his golden ticket to the chocolate factory.

Uh uh.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Kaeru said:
and get analsex every day?
Hells yeah
Thats like when Charlie got his golden ticket to the chocolate factory.
:lol :lol :lol
Now I have this disgusting of image of mudslides in my head:lol The laugh was not worth it
 

fernoca

Member
I technically would't have any problem..except the fact that I'm gay.. :p

But anyway..it's a really weird situation..well, difficult for some..
He liked the girl, they talked and everything..they "clicked"..yet,wasn't born with a vagina so that means: "no thanks"..

I mean..
Do you get interested/in love with the person/personality?..do you fall in love on the idea of having sex?..or do you fall in love with the sexual organ?

It's like a case..a documentary I once watched, I think it was on HBO..
2 women met, as lesbians....went throught he hwole ordeal of coming out, their families, etc...then even married..
Turned out, that 1 of them was not a real woman, but a man that for some ..genetic condition didn't had a penis, was raised as a woman; realized that she was lesbian...then discovered that she's actually a ..well..a 'he'..

Yet, the other woman stood with him and continued married..but wait..she's a "lesbian", and met a woman and fell in love with a woman which even married..but turned being a man..wouldn't that make her.."straight"? ..and legally married to a man?

Really ..difficult situation, no matter what..

Sometimes, with me, everything's normal..yet, when one person discovers that I'm gay..they are like "Whoa, you like cock?!?!!? ".."You like looking at cocks?!?!?!"..when in reality, I don't...but, well..being straight seems to be the same..many met a girl, then tell their friends and the first thing they ask: "Does she has a nice rack?!?!!?" ..so many define interest, in just sex..oh well..

/end rant. :p
 

byproduct

The Amiga Brotherhood
Interesting that gay people think "why not" and straight people are all "no way". I wouldn't rule out a guy I was interested in if he told me he used to be a woman. Straight people must just be wired differently.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
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Hell no.

I find it weird people here referring to them as "she".
 

Rewrite

Not as deep as he thinks
I personally wouldn't do it, but I wouldn't discriminate against the people that would go for it. More power to them.
 

itxaka

Defeatist
I would, if she is operated and good looking who cares what was before?

what makes a woman a woman? The pussy and tits! That is all I ever need!
 

Crayon Shinchan

Aquafina Fanboy
Pre-op? No, stay the fuck away.

Post-op? How does she look? And sound.

There's a pre-op tranny at work... she's about 6'4", with large hands, anorexic, and a very very scary off-putting voice (i.e. a guy trying to speak like a girl... not a comical one, but a serious attempt. Yeah).

She talks to me occasionally, but I always freeze up, and there's this awkward silence that takes place of a conversation.

It's getting a bit better... proactively greeting her... but dear god, I can barely treat her/him as human in my mind much less a woman. Makes the liberal part of my mind a bit ashamed, but it can't be helped!
 

Dali

Member
byproduct said:
Interesting that gay people think "why not" and straight people are all "no way".
Maybe straight people have an expectation of a normal life and gay people have different expectations (like no biological children for starters).


And I am fully aware of my choice of words and feel they are all appropriate.
 
I'd experience a great deal of cognitive dissonance which would make me feel really uncomfortable. It wouldn't matter that they look, sound etc. like a woman, the fact that they used to be a man would weigh heavily on my mind. It'd feel like I wasn't dating a woman, but rather another man's idea of what a woman is or should be like.

I'd get the same feeling (but for far different reasons), as a christian-leaning agnostic, from dating an extremely religious girl. I'd have to make all sorts of compromises I'm not comfortable with, smile and pretend everything were hunky-dory in order to even make it work.
 

Shouta

Member
byproduct said:
Interesting that gay people think "why not" and straight people are all "no way". I wouldn't rule out a guy I was interested in if he told me he used to be a woman. Straight people must just be wired differently.

It's probably more like most straight guys have never really thought about what they're being attracted to and just that they are. I personally think a lot of gay people have to go through the "why/who do I like?" thing before they figure out their own situation so this seems like it isn't a big deal.
 

AKingNamedPaul

I am Homie
viciouskillersquirrel said:
I'd experience a great deal of cognitive dissonance which would make me feel really uncomfortable. It wouldn't matter that they look, sound etc. like a woman, the fact that they used to be a man would weigh heavily on my mind. It'd feel like I wasn't dating a woman, but rather another man's idea of what a woman is or should be like.

I'd get the same feeling (but for far different reasons), as a christian-leaning agnostic, from dating an extremely religious girl. I'd have to make all sorts of compromises I'm not comfortable with, smile and pretend everything were hunky-dory in order to even make it work.
Would you have sex with it though? no relationship involved, would you sex it up?
 

fernoca

Member
itxaka said:
I would, if she is operated and good looking who cares what was before?

what makes a woman a woman? The pussy and tits! That is all I ever need!
:lol
A weird situation, is the many straight guys, that only like doing it in the ass to woman (i.e. 'fhuta'.. :p )..to avoid using condom, pregnancy, etc..

Yet, when it comes to doing the exact same thing to a woman that used to be a man, or just..a man...."Ewww..that's gay"

So there are some that just like..having them, seeing them...but not using them (i.e. pussy and tits :p )...like a prize.. "Woohoo I have a woman!!..boobies..!! don't know how to use them, but I they are mine!!!..now bend over!!"
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I dont know. Can anybody asnwer this question? How do post op female transexuals ejaculate?
Sexually I like way too many things that I think cannot be faked once we are having sex. It even boils down to the pheromones. I dont think a transexual could emulate them. If she was a perfect woman, why not. Is just that I guess the illusion would be broken once we have sex. Thinking she used to be a man doesn't bother me.
 

Kandrick

GAF's Ed McMahon
Kaeru said:
and get analsex every day?
Hells yeah
Thats like when Charlie got his golden ticket to the chocolate factory.

fuuuck :lol

On topic, NO, but if "she" is nice and REALLY girl looking, then... shit what i am talking about :lol
 

smurfx

get some go again
itxaka said:
I would, if she is operated and good looking who cares what was before?

what makes a woman a woman? The pussy and tits! That is all I ever need!
doctors can't create vagina's. what those guys have is just a hole where their penises used to be. hell if they don't keep their fake vagina's open it will close up because the body thinks it's a wound.

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byproduct

The Amiga Brotherhood
Shouta said:
It's probably more like most straight guys have never really thought about what they're being attracted to and just that they are. I personally think a lot of gay people have to go through the "why/who do I like?" thing before they figure out their own situation so this seems like it isn't a big deal.

Maybe.

Dali said:
Maybe straight people have an expectation of a normal life and gay people have different expectations (like no biological children for starters).

You could be right. I had to delete a lot of expectations when I came out to myself. And I have no problem with the word "normal" used in the sense of something being more commonly experienced, as long as there is no moral meaning attached.

itxaka said:
I would, if she is operated and good looking who cares what was before?

what makes a woman a woman? The pussy and tits! That is all I ever need!

I honestly expected more answers along these lines.
 

Mr Jared

Member
Nah, it'd be too weird. I have a handful of friends who are transgendered so I totally have no problem with the whole concept. But if one of them tried to hook me up with one of their friends? No way =\
 
FootNinja said:
Would you have sex with it though? no relationship involved, would you sex it up?
Probably no. I've only ever been in a situation wherein there was sex outside the context of a relationship once. While it was fun at the time, I ended it because I wanted to be free to pursue a real relationship. It didn't fulfil my needs, I guess. That's just me though.

fernoca said:
:lol
A weird situation, is the many straight guys, that only like doing it in the ass to woman (i.e. 'fhuta'.. :p )..to avoid using condom, pregnancy, etc..

Yet, when it comes to doing the exact same thing to a woman that used to be a man, or just..a man...."Ewww..that's gay"

So there are some that just like..having them, seeing them...but not using them (i.e. pussy and tits :p )...like a prize.. "Woohoo I have a woman!!..boobies..!! don't know how to use them, but I they are mine!!!..now bend over!!"
I don't know what the percentages are, but I find the idea of anal sex rather... well... unhygienic and I'd wager that a lot of straight men would feel the same way. I think porn's fascination with it all comes down to toilet humour and misplaced misogyny. Again, though, that's just me.
 

fernoca

Member
viciouskillersquirrel said:
I don't know what the percentages are, but I find the idea of anal sex rather... well... unhygienic and I'd wager that a lot of straight men would feel the same way. I think porn's fascination with it all comes down to toilet humour and misplaced misogyny. Again, though, that's just me.
Outdated and off-topic... but...since "I started it".. :p ..
Tiscali Lifestyle said:
In absolute numbers, it is hypothesized that more heterosexual couples have anal sex than homosexual couples.
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Wikipidea said:
According to a 2004 report, "Some research suggests that one in four heterosexuals in the US has tried anal sex and for one in 12, it is an occasional or episodic practice. Other surveys suggest that seven times as many women as gay men engage in anal intercourse, a figure reflecting the greater overall heterosexual population."

In 2005, a survey conducted by the Centers for Disease Control determined that the incidence of anal relations in the heterosexual population is on the increase. The survey showed that 40 percent of men and 35 percent of women between 25 and 44 had engaged in heterosexual anal sex; in 1992 a similar survey found that only 25.6 percent of men 18 to 59 and 20.4 percent of women 18 to 59 had.

A 2001 French survey of five hundred female respondents concluded that a total of 29% had practiced anal sex, though only one third of these claimed to have enjoyed the experience.[14] In contrast, in a 1999 South Korean survey of 586 women, only 3.5% of respondents reported having had anal sex.

Figures for the prevalence of sexual behavior can fluctuate over time. Edward O. Laumann's 1992 survey, reported in The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States found that about 20% of heterosexuals have engaged in anal sex. Sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, working in the 1940s, had found that number to be closer to 40% at the time. More recently, a researcher from the University of British Columbia in 2005 put the number of heterosexuals who have practiced anal sex at between 30% and 50%.

According to Columbia University's health website, Go Ask Alice!: "Studies indicate that about 25 percent of heterosexual couples have had anal sex at least once, and 10 percent regularly have anal penetration."
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Though, yeah..in most cases is the whole "Well, they are doing it on the porn..let's try it"..mentality..
Sometimes ignoring that in a few of those pornos,..there's no actual penetration and it 's an act..
 

Shahadan

Member
viciouskillersquirrel said:
I don't know what the percentages are, but I find the idea of anal sex rather... well... unhygienic

Well you probably never thought about what transits by vaginas.
 

Dali

Member
byproduct said:
You could be right. I had to delete a lot of expectations when I came out to myself. And I have no problem with the word "normal" used in the sense of something being more commonly experienced, as long as there is no moral meaning attached.
I meant it as common: 'the usual'. You seem reasonable but the last time I used normal in a thread that referenced transgender people I actually got flamed for it. Like people were actually trying to argue that being born with the mind of a woman but the body of a man is normal and that I was a horrible person for excluding them from the normal umbrella.
 

byproduct

The Amiga Brotherhood
Yeah sex in any way, shape or form is pretty unhygienic. You're better off sticking to cuddles and smooches on the cheek.
 
Shahadan said:
Well you probably never thought about what transits by vaginas.
You mean menstrual flows and children? As long as a woman is healthy and not, say, infected, I can deal.

Call me old fashioned if you like, but the thought of getting fecal matter on my dangly bits turns me off decidedly.
 
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