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[Man-is-Obsolete]

Doubtful. The future is in X86 architecture anyway or whatever the next evolution is. So I'm expecting future Playstation platforms ( if there is another console generation ) to be fully backwards compatible. Same for the next Xbox.

Bingo! You can bank on a very PC architecture for whatever future is left for home consoles, which means BC will be super easy to accomplish going forward.

Also, why is it a waste? You can still play all of those games you bought for the PS3, on the PS3! Novel thought I know. Just don't sell your PS3 if it means that much to you.

 

[Speevy]

Gamers don't care much about the principle of a thing.

 

[Caddywompus]

I just hate the idea of having to purchase another PS3 once it dies instead of moving every onto a PS4. I'm so use to having everything I've owned have BC for at least one more generation.

 

[Patrickv27]

yea but at least you stay with them. the psn games if they take down the service you wont.

Yep you stay with them but can't use it with PS4 either.

 

[FoxMcCloudDS]

I have to agree a bit with the OP.

I know a lot of people that have really disliked the idea of a non-backward compatible PS4, especially the PSN games.

I also personally have less of a reason to buy one now, since I will not have money from selling my PS3, and also not have my past library.

People like me also probably just hate having so many damn consoles hooked up!

 

[TheSeks]

I don't get that logic at all. If you have the tools to use and download the game, why does another system matter in that initial purchase?

Does the PS3 stop working when PS4 drops??

No, but if I want to play Guilty Gear after playing Assassin's Creed 4 on the system, I simply can not do that.

 

[dokish]

How do we know if they won't shut down psn for ps3?

... seriously?

 

[WrenchNinja]

... seriously?

How's Xbox Live doing on the original Xbox?

 

[goomba]

There's no reason to expect x86 based successors to ps4 / xb3

When ps3 came out the future was cell , didn't work out as expected.

The original Xbox was x86 and 360 moved to ppc.

 

[famousmortimer]

Do people actually buy a $10 digital game and think "gee, i hope I can play this 15 years from now."

If I play a game for more than three weeks it's a money saving miracle.

 

[VXLbeast]

I doubt it, as I know about it and it won't affect my purchasing. It doesn't diminish the value of the games at all.

 

[Ponn]

How's Xbox Live doing on the original Xbox?

Yea for pushing a DD future none of these companies are doing a particularly great job of inspiring confidence in it. For all those dropping money into psplus building this library of games id be a bit worried about the longevity of your collection.

 

[Anth0ny]

PS5 will likely be backwards compatible with PS4, so it shouldn't be an issue. x86 and all that good stuff.

I won't be buying any more shit from the PS3 shop, though. Wait for a physical release in the case of something like Journey, or just pick it up on Steam.

 

[Thoraxes]

What the...

Don't. Sell. The. PS3. Then.

And not buy a PS4.

Did killing PS2 game BC make people sketchy to buy any PS3 game? I don't think the market really cares about carrying their games along with them forever.

It's the reason why I held off for about 3-4 years.

 

[Syphon Filter]

... seriously?

yea

 

[makingmusic476]

Do people actually buy a $10 digital game and think "gee, i hope I can play this 15 years from now."

If I play a game for more than three weeks it's a money saving miracle.

I do.

Fuck, Steam sales have me buying games I hope I may decide to play at some point within the next five years. I buy them assuming I'll be able to play them someday, and who knows which day.

 

[Glorified G]

yea

This post in another thread is perfect:

The levels of fucking stupid are reaching critical mass in the gaming section of Gaf.

Next gen is here.

 

[Syphon Filter]

This post in another thread is perfect:



Next gen is here.

i see no issue with what i said.

 

[fvng]

I'm not buying a PS4 that can't play these games I can already play on my other console!!

 

[EleventhDoctor]

I'm not buying a PS4 that can't play these games I can already play on my other console!!

I'm looking forward to having 12 consoles plugged in to one HDMI switch.

 

[Brazil]

We should all just stop buying games since we'll all die and then they won't be playable anymore.

 

[DarkoMaledictus]

Did killing PS2 game BC make people sketchy to buy any PS3 game? I don't think the market really cares about carrying their games along with them forever.

I do... but that's why I play on pc! All my games carry and even console games! Thank god for emulation!

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Yeah I'm definitely not buying any more DD stuff at all. I'm not throwing money at something with a gutted shelf-life. (I'm also being way more selective with what PS3 games I buy.) If I'm gonna invest money into a software library, I like to be able to use it. My PS3's not gonna last forever (and Sony will eventually stop making them.)

 

[Syphon Filter]

We should all just stop buying games since we'll all die and then they won't be playable anymore.

you said that to make yourself feel better,still doesnt change whats going on.

 

[Brazil]

you said that to make yourself feel better,still doesnt change whats going on.

Not really, haha. I rarely replay games, and I don't buy stuff I don't plan on playing immediately anymore, so I'm really not bothered by all of this.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

you said that to make yourself feel better,still doesnt change whats going on.

You don't understand. He/she has already seen the afterlife. And it's totally videogame free.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

Well hey, this is the digital future everyone wanted so god damn bad.

 

[BocoDragon]

Didn't have a PS2, Wii or WiiU then eh?

No you just didn't need to keep them plugged in to play your old games. BocoDragon said for "any other legacy console" you have to play old games on the old system with is not at all correct.

Exceptions that prove the rule. Most consoles have had no BC. Sky didn't fall. Most people moved on, nerds kept their old consoles.

You don't understand. He/she has already seen the afterlife. And it's totally videogame free.

In my religion, heaven has perfect backwards compatibility with all games past, present and future.

 

[Ponn]

Do people actually buy a $10 digital game and think "gee, i hope I can play this 15 years from now."

If I play a game for more than three weeks it's a money saving miracle.

Yea why not? PSP Go was announced and i switched to digital expecting to play them on psp 2. With storage options it does make sense, its support and DRM that messes it up.

 

[sn00zer]

Its entirely due to how obtuse the PS3 hardware was. It cant be emulated, and doesnt not easily translate to any other hardware....a game programmed on a Cell processor just would work on whatever is under the hood of the PS4, they are not doing becasue they want to.

 

[Deleted member 20920]

I get why people would stop buying them on PSN but what I don't get is why they would still continue to buy disc versions. You won't be able to play either Disc or PSn versions when your PS3 dies and none is available.

They're not going to shut down PSN, at least not until Sony goes bankrupt. Nothing has changed. And I don't see them shutting down PSN like they did with Xbox Live. Over the past year, they've revamp the PSN stores and slowling rolling out the changes across the world. Asia PSN Stores just got the new store interface as well. They've also brought this new store interface to browsers and now users can buy games via PC. They've also added Paypal as a payment method. And you think they would throw all these away after they release the PS4? Sony is pretty good with supporting their previous gen consoles imo. I don't think they would do that just to piss off consumers and developers.

 

[Mandoric]

I do... but that's why I play on pc! All my games carry and even console games! Thank god for emulation!

Can I have your copy of SimCity 4? Mine doesn't do that, I think it's broken.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

In my religion, heaven has perfect backwards compatibility with all games past, present and future.

Start a church right now. You crazy genius prophet.

 

[Punkster_NY]

So are you going to hold off and not buy any new games for 9-10 months until the PS4 comes out? Of course not. Also a good number of people won't upgrade in the first year anyways and many will choose to hold onto their PS3 because it doubles as a blu-ray player.

 

[demolitio]

Why though? If they already have a PS3, then they'd play the game when they buy it. Yes, it might suck if you want to go back and play a previous PSN purchase, but that's what your PS3 is for. It's up to the people if they want to keep their PS3's or not, but it's not going to stop me from buying a digital game to play right NOW. I guess people that buy games to have huge backlogs might be annoyed, but I buy digital purchases to play them when I want on an impulse, not to buy something just to wait over half a year.

Hell, if you don't plan on playing the game right away, then why wouldn't you wait until an inevitable sale price?

It's annoying in the sense that you know you're only renting the game IF you plan on getting rid of your PS3 right away.

 

[duckroll]

you said that to make yourself feel better,still doesnt change whats going on.

It sounds more like you made this thread hoping that people would all agree with you so you wouldn't feel alone. When in reality, the majority of people don't care because people don't buy things based on what they expect to want to do with them in a year or two, but rather what they want to use them for now.

Would I like to be able to play the 10 buck game I buy off PSN on a PS4 too in a few years? Sure. If I can't will I not buy it if I want to play it now? No way. You might want to collect everything you buy forever, but I think that to most people, they just buy what they want to use immediately.

 

[Roto13]

Well i thought i wasn't getting disposable games.

They're not disposable. You're "disposing of" the hardware you need if you want to keep playing the games you own, and that's 100% your decision and any consequences are your own fault.

 

[Korezo]

I know I'll never buy anything off ps store again because of this. If they needed to keep same ps3 architecture for old stuff to be compatible for ps4 then they should of. Imagine if the stuff you bought from iTunes or any pc service didn't work when you upgraded.. That's terrible. This isn't 1999 anymore.

 

[Marty Chinn]

I know I'll never buy anything off ps store again because of this. If they needed to keep same ps3 architecture for old stuff to be compatible for ps4 then they should of. Imagine if the stuff you bought from iTunes or any pc service didn't work when you upgraded.. That's terrible. This isn't 1999 anymore.

Are you willing to pay $200 more for a PS4?

 

[Esura]

Are you willing to pay $200 more for a PS4?

With BC? Yup.

I see myself waiting years down the line in the next gen before I buy a PS4 now. But there is always WiiU for my next gen needs during that time.

 

[Roto13]

With BC? Yup.

I see myself waiting years down the line in the next gen before I buy a PS4 now. But there is always WiiU for my next gen needs during that time.

$200 is what a PS4 will probably cost a year from now.

So basically smooshing a PS3 and PS4 into the same plastic case is super important to you? You could probably fake that with a big cardboard box and a fan.

 

[Grimsen]

This thread is like a video game version of Hoarders.

 

[Marty Chinn]

With BC? Yup.

I see myself waiting years down the line in the next gen before I buy a PS4 now. But there is always WiiU for my next gen needs during that time.

And risk the success and viability of the PS4 as a result? I'd rather not risk new games at the expense of a previous generation.

 

[Iced_Eagle]

Not really... I'm expecting the next gen to last even longer than this gen (7 years). Considering I'll have the box for almost a decade, I will have no problems buying into the PSN store. By that point, everything will probably be run from Gaikai. Won't really have to worry about BC again.

 

[Deleted member 20920]

I know I'll never buy anything off ps store again because of this. If they needed to keep same ps3 architecture for old stuff to be compatible for ps4 then they should of. Imagine if the stuff you bought from iTunes or any pc service didn't work when you upgraded.. That's terrible. This isn't 1999 anymore.

Apps are different since the iphones are basically just running updated versions of the same OS. Come back again when Apple decides to do a brand new OS that might make BC difficult. I'm also sure that not all Apps are as transferable as you said. PC BC is neither perfect as well. There are so many old games that just don't work properly on Win 7 and Win 8.

 

[Fafalada]

I buy them assuming I'll be able to play them someday, and who knows which day.

They have TV shows for that condition - I think it starts with H...
(I buy like that too -_-)


Anyway Sony and MS could treat DD only games differently and have the option for them to be shipped cross-gen where it makes sense, but I am betting the business side resists that idea at all costs.

 

[MoGamesXNA]

/sniffs air/

Smell that? That's the waft of a hundred GAF corporate apologists in this thread.


OP is right. For me, I'd consider it a bit silly to invest in PSN titles for the moment (unless you're considering your expense a rental, rather than a purchase). It's disappointing that the industry heavyweights in the video game industry don't have their shit sorted in regards to backwards compatibility. They rely on indifference and ignorance to compensate for lack of foresight and technical shortcuts made on future platforms.

 

[Camp Lo]

No, but if I want to play Guilty Gear after playing Assassin's Creed 4 on the system, I simply can not do that.

Then you simply should play GG on whatever system will allow you the pleasure.

 

[Jburton]

Doubtful. The future is in X86 architecture anyway or whatever the next evolution is. So I'm expecting future Playstation platforms ( if there is another console generation ) to be fully backwards compatible. Same for the next Xbox.

The sacrifice is worth it if we can move forward in the future without having to worry about custom hardware affecting our ability to build a digital locker of games (Steam) that will transistion from one generation of hardware to the next.


There is nothing that can be done now about it and being hamstrung by legacy hardware designs to keep BC is not worth it.


The future is brighter for these issues no longer being a concern.

 

[Roto13]

/sniffs air/

Smell that? That's the waft of a hundred GAF corporate apologists in this thread.

Oh, be quiet. You don't know anything about anything. PS3 games play on PS3. That's the deal. There are actually a lot of really fucking good reasons why PS3 games won't work on PS4, whether you stick your head in the sand about them or not. It has nothing to do with "shortcuts."