Ninja Scooter
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The Abominable Snowman said:
why is it that some of you guys seem to think that the videogame industry works like a WWF storyline?
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why is it that some of you guys seem to think that the videogame industry works like a WWF storyline?
CrimsonSkies
Member
"Seriously, do you enjoy talking out of your ass?"
I'm not sure who you are and why you felt the need to reply like that. But take a break from posting and step back from the keyboard. Breathe a little bit. Realize that there is a life outside of this forum and come back and post more when you pull your head out of your own ass. Thanks man.
I feel the game was held back by multiplatform development by a developer who wasn't very knowledgable of anything outside of PC development tools. Can you honestly say that you know differently? I mean if you have some inside info on the developer that's fine, but my opinion on the matter would seem to coorespond with what we saw. An Xbox version up and running very quickly, a GameCube version that was only shown in screenshots, and a PS2 version that was a dog.
Could you be right. You sure could man. And I'd honestly tip my hat off too you. I'm not going to be 10 and reply to you like you did me there.
I find it fascinating that one can get riled up by someones opinon on this board and then offer another opinon that is just that. Get a grip.
I'm not sure who you are and why you felt the need to reply like that. But take a break from posting and step back from the keyboard. Breathe a little bit. Realize that there is a life outside of this forum and come back and post more when you pull your head out of your own ass. Thanks man.
I feel the game was held back by multiplatform development by a developer who wasn't very knowledgable of anything outside of PC development tools. Can you honestly say that you know differently? I mean if you have some inside info on the developer that's fine, but my opinion on the matter would seem to coorespond with what we saw. An Xbox version up and running very quickly, a GameCube version that was only shown in screenshots, and a PS2 version that was a dog.
Could you be right. You sure could man. And I'd honestly tip my hat off too you. I'm not going to be 10 and reply to you like you did me there.
I find it fascinating that one can get riled up by someones opinon on this board and then offer another opinon that is just that. Get a grip.
CrimsonSkies
Member
"Vivendi publishes a high number of high profile high selling PC games and own Blizzard. How the hell do they get into financial trouble? Must be other divisions within Vivendi bringing them down."
You can look at Vivendi's current catalog and see a lot of dogs there.
You can look at Vivendi's current catalog and see a lot of dogs there.
Buffy4ever
Banned
Warm Machine said:
I don't think that EA could buy Nintendo. Nintendo has to much pride to let that happen. (And they are a Japanese company they would not let a US company buy stock in them.)
I think Hell would freeze over before that happen.
Warm Machine said:
For one... that isn't a virus.
For two... last time I checked, 75% and better is hardly crap.
James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing
Publisher: EA Games
Number of P/Reviews: 174 PlayStation 2 85.4%
James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing
Publisher: EA Games
Number of P/Reviews: 160 GameCube 85.5%
James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing
Publisher: EA Games
Number of P/Reviews: 181 Xbox 83.7%
James Bond 007: NightFire
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Number of P/Reviews: 84 GameCube 80.5%
James Bond 007: NightFire
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Number of P/Reviews: 106 Xbox 80.1%
James Bond 007 in Agent Under Fire
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Number of P/Reviews: 99 PlayStation 2 75.9%
Freedom Fighters
Publisher: EA Games
Number of P/Reviews: 133 PlayStation 2 83.6%
Freedom Fighters
Publisher: EA Games
Number of P/Reviews: 125 Xbox 81.6%
Freedom Fighters
Publisher: EA Games
Number of P/Reviews: 78 GameCube 83.7%
Warm Machine
Member
Come on. Reviews are a weak way to judge a game anyway. Especially EA game reviews.
The World is not Enough took Goldeneye's clever auto targeting to its next idiot evolution by making the cursor SNAP to enemies over an inch away from the reticule. Fuck skillful play and aiming, lets just have the player point somewhere near the enemies and pull the trigger and they will hit everytime. Thats fine when shooting is PART of the game but not when it is the core experience.
Nightfire has the wonderful action where you drop a clip into a guy and most times he doesn't even play a hit animation. If you are lucky enough to see a hit animation it is totally canned and not at all like Rare's Goldeneye case sensitive hitting system.
Lets not forget the totally lame racing sections that make Chase HQ look modern.
Everything or Nothing starts with a total bullshit level where, if you want, you can stand in the middle of the environment getting nailed by about 1000 bullets and STILL NOT DROP. On top of that it has that fucked up control where you have to aim within the aiming reticule (while holding two buttons down). Then we get to the actual in game action where suddenly 1 bullet does 100x the damage than in the first level. Then there is the falling debris which is random, impossible to avoid because there isn't any indication of where it is going to land. The Repelling consists of a fucked camera, forced animations, and general piss poor implementation.
If you are lucky enough to actually get to the driving sequence you are forced into a nice long race where enemies give you forced hits and there is sweet fuck all you can do about it. The player just has to navigate to the end of the track where the train is, and hope he is lucky enough to get there with over 25% health because the train throws more forced hits at you.
Look past the bullshit and you'll actually see how lame those games are. Every damn EA Bond game that comes out always gets the big reviews and then 2 months later the reviewers STILL maintain that N64 GE is better than any of them. Face it, EA hasn't made a Bond game as good as 1997s GE. They've had 7 years and 5 chances to get it right and keep devolving the series. None of EAs Bond games have brought something new to the table, and considering how lush and idea laden the movie franchise is what EA has delivered is terrible.
At least Freedom Fighters has evolved the action genre. Its squad command mechanic was brilliant and completely effective. AI would go and do exactly what they were told to. It actually felt satisfying to shoot the enemies who reacted to where you hit them. The rag doll animation system, while too light for the gravity was really fun to watch especially when enemies concregated around something explosive. The environment staging was excellent where by wiping out one part of the map effects the enemy performance on other parts of the map. Sound and music were stellar as well.
Give credit to where credit is due.
The World is not Enough took Goldeneye's clever auto targeting to its next idiot evolution by making the cursor SNAP to enemies over an inch away from the reticule. Fuck skillful play and aiming, lets just have the player point somewhere near the enemies and pull the trigger and they will hit everytime. Thats fine when shooting is PART of the game but not when it is the core experience.
Nightfire has the wonderful action where you drop a clip into a guy and most times he doesn't even play a hit animation. If you are lucky enough to see a hit animation it is totally canned and not at all like Rare's Goldeneye case sensitive hitting system.
Lets not forget the totally lame racing sections that make Chase HQ look modern.
Everything or Nothing starts with a total bullshit level where, if you want, you can stand in the middle of the environment getting nailed by about 1000 bullets and STILL NOT DROP. On top of that it has that fucked up control where you have to aim within the aiming reticule (while holding two buttons down). Then we get to the actual in game action where suddenly 1 bullet does 100x the damage than in the first level. Then there is the falling debris which is random, impossible to avoid because there isn't any indication of where it is going to land. The Repelling consists of a fucked camera, forced animations, and general piss poor implementation.
If you are lucky enough to actually get to the driving sequence you are forced into a nice long race where enemies give you forced hits and there is sweet fuck all you can do about it. The player just has to navigate to the end of the track where the train is, and hope he is lucky enough to get there with over 25% health because the train throws more forced hits at you.
Look past the bullshit and you'll actually see how lame those games are. Every damn EA Bond game that comes out always gets the big reviews and then 2 months later the reviewers STILL maintain that N64 GE is better than any of them. Face it, EA hasn't made a Bond game as good as 1997s GE. They've had 7 years and 5 chances to get it right and keep devolving the series. None of EAs Bond games have brought something new to the table, and considering how lush and idea laden the movie franchise is what EA has delivered is terrible.
At least Freedom Fighters has evolved the action genre. Its squad command mechanic was brilliant and completely effective. AI would go and do exactly what they were told to. It actually felt satisfying to shoot the enemies who reacted to where you hit them. The rag doll animation system, while too light for the gravity was really fun to watch especially when enemies concregated around something explosive. The environment staging was excellent where by wiping out one part of the map effects the enemy performance on other parts of the map. Sound and music were stellar as well.
Give credit to where credit is due.
Warm Machine
Member
sonic4ever said:
Re-read what I wrote. I was saying Nintendo should pick up Eurocom, not EA should buy Nintendo. Eurocom does a lot of EA's port work as well as port work for many other companies. Nintendo should go after them because, with Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy, they proved they could emulate the Zelda and Nintendo style quite well.
Apharmd Battler
Member
Deepthroat said:EA are the new Necromongers.
CONVERT NOW OR FALL FOREVER!
HILARIOUS!!! I was thinking the EXACT same thing!!! You keep what you kill............
Apharmd Battler
Member
Troidal said:
Another one that made me spit my orange juice!! ROTFLMAO!!
The Abominable Snowman
Member
First: I absolutely detest the WWFNinja Scooter said:
Second, you think alliances in videogaming have not happened before?
john tv:
SEGA and Sammy, while in the same business of amusement machines, are in complementary sectors of it. This allows them the synergistic benefit of running two operations, pachinko and arcade, that each use a similar infrastructure and resource set: R&D for amusement machines, distribution and maintenance of amusement machines, and management of amusement centers.
Combining SEGA and Namco, two companies in the exact same business and with very similar product too, would've basically resulted in two companies just glued together. The result would've been a balance sheet that got both companys' games but also had both companys' development and production expenses to balance it out.
SEGA and Sammy, while in the same business of amusement machines, are in complementary sectors of it. This allows them the synergistic benefit of running two operations, pachinko and arcade, that each use a similar infrastructure and resource set: R&D for amusement machines, distribution and maintenance of amusement machines, and management of amusement centers.
Ubi Soft extends rally on Electronic Arts bid hopes
http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuo...tfh80514_2004-12-21_12-47-24_l21509672_newsml
In short, everybody is expecting EA to acquire Ubi wholly (for a measly $500 million).
http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuo...tfh80514_2004-12-21_12-47-24_l21509672_newsml
In short, everybody is expecting EA to acquire Ubi wholly (for a measly $500 million).
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I remember everyone was afraid of Microsoft coming in and buying everyone up, but it turns out MS aren't the ones doing the buying up!
-SRV- said:
That wasn't exactly some far fetched premonition to come up with... as each succeeding generation comes it gets more expensive to create games... therefore you want to diversify your portfolio, and seek to reuse tools when you can... as well the increase will kill off some company's who simply can't keep up(good or bad).
I agree actually, Sammy seems like a more complimentary fit (if less exciting). They also have the strong finances to pull Sega around... I'm not sure Namco could've shouldered Sega's massive debt. A merger there might've brought both companies down.Lazy8s said:
I'm still all for Namco-Capcom though. It'd be perfect.
Idiot Member
Banned
Ninja Scooter said:
I've been wondering the same thing myself, it's hilarious what these people think. I simply couldn't put it in words, thank you for doing so.
Lazy8s when two similar companies combine you can cut down on a lot of overhead.
And sometimes creativity can help when in larger groups. At least I like to think so.
The only problem would be their own games competiting with each other.
SEGA's greater diversity from Sammy's operations provides each party with what they need to grow. Sammy have been making more money than they can spend in pachinko/pachislot but have been unable to really expand into the videogame market without the help of an established player, and SEGA have unexploited potential from an infrastructure built during their days as a platform manufacturer but lack the funding on their own to fully execute. Both want to grow into a strong force in the videogaming market, and each have the means that the other needs to do it. This kind of relationship leads SEGA and Sammy to do what they respectively do best in order to realize their combined vision.
radioheadrule83
Banned
I've been goin for more Star Wars than WWF:
