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WWDC09 Thread of iPhones and Snow Leopards

reggieandTFE said:
Did 2G iPhone owners have to pay for 2.0? Will 3G owners have to pay the $9.95 for 3.0?

IMO the phone looks like a nice refinement but nothing revolutionary. I honestly think At
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iphone owners pay nothing for firmwares
 
Jasoco said:
With money.

See, in my world, iPhones wouldn't be restricted to AT&T.

Also, you can still buy second-hand iPhones. I just don't want to put up with jailbreaking. I want this stuff to be open to anyone anywhere.

Why won't my perfect world come true?
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Pay for it or don't pay for it.

If you want one, go buy one.

The world doesn't revolve around you!

Do not buy one second hand. Usually all the buttons are fucked up.
 
Meier said:
The Pre is likely $20-30 less per month. Over the course of a 2-yr contract, that is a savings of $500-$700.
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That is important, because the Sprint plan I get is $56 and the comparable plan on AT&T costs me about $70.
 
So, it is practically confirmed that it has a faster processor and more RAM? If it is, are they going to be Apps that take advantage of that that would make them incompatibles with the 2G?
Please say no !
 
would one of you experts be kind enough to outline key differences (IYO) of iphone 3G VS iphone 3GS?

trying to weigh up if its worth twice the price. Probably go for it anyway but its nice to see it in summarised
 
Nice update, but I'm still kinda wary of upgrading from my OG iPhone.
It's just not that different, and I really hate the glossy plastic.
 
claviertekky said:
Pay for it or don't pay for it.

If you want one, go buy one.

The world doesn't revolve around you!
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Instead it apparently revolves around iPhone users. I can't wait to hear "What's playing iPhone?" and "Play more like this!" every 5 seconds, you just know they are going to be the types to over-use voice commands.


v4gr4nt said:
So, it is practically confirmed that it has a faster processor and more RAM? If it is, are they going to be Apps that take advantage of that that would make them incompatibles with the 2G?
Please say no !
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I would think they would do a two-tiered strat or just for the lower specs. If you're a business man you don't want to alienate 40 million existing users, do you?
 
Still AT&T only? Fuck that noise. New laptops look hot though, just wish the graphical upgrades provided a little more power than a 9600.
 
It's amazing how accurate the leaks are before the conference. I heard about the 3G-S last night. They were bang on. So just as I was saying before, this is a minor upgrade for people, if you already have a 3G there's nothing earth shattering about the new 3G-S.
 
See, there you go. $100 for an iPhone. But you still have to pay for the service. And that varies wildly depending on your plan. Sadly, there isn't a plan cheap enough for me to afford.

My sister and her boyfriend have iPhones. But they pay $70-90 a month. I barely use the one I have. If I had an iPhone, I'd probably be using the internet part more than the talking and texting.

Here's what I get right now.

Every month, I get 150 units for $15. It's automatically added.

But I don't use 150 minutes worth of talking or 300 text messages worth. So my units add up. They roll over every month. Adding to the total.

Right now I have 1518 units. 300 of those were added when I bought the new phone and had them transfer my number. (Since the phones come with 300 minutes)

If I'm lucky, I might have a conversation that takes 45 minutes. But that only happens once in a blue moon. Most of my calls take 1-3 minutes each. And even then not even 1 minute, that's just what I get charged even if it's a 20 second call.

So if AT&T offered a plan where I could pay $15 a month for talk/text time and a separate set of plans for data for nominal fees, I'd probably jump on it. No way could I afford $70 a month for anything. Not right now at least.
 
Returning to the iPhone cave.
 
Alright not that much of an upgrade to justify buying the GS. Especially since I don't get to buy a subsidised one. Maybe the next upgrade I'll bite.
 
ok, show's over.

initial thoughts.

glad that macbooks are now macbook pros and are faster and cheaper than before with better screens and the backlit keyboard.

29 dollar snow leopard upgrade price makes it a no brainer for me. glad to have that done with.

the september release date is surprisingly far away. I guess there's no UI overhaul coming despite the longish wait. oh well.

the 3Gs isn't very compelling for a 3G owner, I think.

it's true that the speed boost is nice and video can be useful but I can live with what I got for another year and see if there's a 64 GB, video conferencing phone next year.

I give this conference..


3 BAMs




... out of 5
 
kaching said:
Don't most cellphones do voice dialing over the network, ie the phone hardware really has nothing to do with it?
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No, they don't. My old Samsung Blade had incredible voice dialing 4+ years ago. It's not exciting tech.

Great price for the 8 GB phone btw. I am mostly underwhelemed but that is a great price for a phone with all the iPhone features.
 
iPod Touch users having to pay for another firmware update, ugh. That's part of the reason why i'm so apprehensive to pick one up. Let's see what September brings...
 
Getting the 32GB iPhone 3GS.

Figure with all the video features and whatnot it'd be nice to have extra space. I was expecting late July so it's nice that it's only a week away.
 
Jasoco said:
See, there you go. $100 for an iPhone. But you still have to pay for the service. And that varies wildly depending on your plan. Sadly, there isn't a plan cheap enough for me to afford.

My sister and her boyfriend have iPhones. But they pay $70-90 a month. I barely use the one I have. If I had an iPhone, I'd probably be using the internet part more than the talking and texting.

Here's what I get right now.

Every month, I get 150 units for $15. It's automatically added.

But I don't use 150 minutes worth of talking or 300 text messages worth. So my units add up. They roll over every month. Adding to the total.

Right now I have 1518 units. 300 of those were added when I bought the new phone and had them transfer my number. (Since the phones come with 300 minutes)

If I'm lucky, I might have a conversation that takes 45 minutes. But that only happens once in a blue moon. Most of my calls take 1-3 minutes each. And even then not even 1 minute, that's just what I get charged even if it's a 20 second call.

So if AT&T offered a plan where I could pay $15 a month for talk/text time and a separate set of plans for data for nominal fees, I'd probably jump on it. No way could I afford $70 a month for anything. Not right now at least.
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I contemplated this too as I have T-Mobile prepaid. I pay $15/month on my cell phone bill overall.

As for your iphone dream on prepaid, it's not going to happen.

You're going to have to bend to AT&T's overpriced plan or buy one from craigslist/ebay.

Personally, how I look at it as of now is a phone should have two features: call and text.

You call to find someone where they are, so you need great reception.

You text to send messages, so you need a great keyboard.

I wish that the iPhone had a physical keyboard. It would make a world's difference.
 
safari4 available for download! Do I have to uninstall teh beta?

edit: wait... I'm viewing NZ Apple site, has iPhone 3GS on front page and Safari 4. But wondering if it is all recent or not.
 
Next week for 3.0 is pretty awesome. I'm looking forward to check out all the things added.
 
I was excited about the $100 price-drop on the $13" MacBook Pro... until I discovered that the Canadian price is remaining the same.

DAMMIT.
 
I want an iPhone so bad but until AT&T/Apple wake up and come up with a monthly price including unlimited texts for $65-70 a month, then I'll continue to skip each new release. I can easily afford it, but there is no excuse for such an expensive plan and I refuse to bow to their ridiculous pricing.

SERO it is.
 
Jonm1010 said:
So I didnt watch or listen. Was the new phone enough to justify returning my Pre, and jumping to AT&T and getting an Iphone?
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Pre is cheaper because of the contract, but the new 3GS appears as if it'll be a bit faster browsing the web and with better battery life.

I say it's a toss-up, unless you're particularly dying for a gluttony of apps
 
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Jtwo said:
Nice update, but I'm still kinda wary of upgrading from my OG iPhone.
It's just not that different, and I really hate the glossy plastic.
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Exactly. I'd be way more inclined to upgrade if they opened it up to other carriers in the US. Now that I'm out of contract with AT&T, it will take a bit more to get me to sign back up with them. I'm going to wait and see just how long my 8GB OG iPhone can hold out.
 
New iPhone can wait until the fall when I usually upgrade my phone. Looks like I'm ordering a new MacBook Pro this week though. Good timing Apple. It's like they know me :lol
 
I was quite happy with the Macbook Pro announcements, especially the 13 in, except for the built-in battery. I really don't believe they'll hit their claims of 5 years batt life, not to mention that now they have another way to get you to upgrade. Do they really think we're so stupid that we can't change a battery? Or do they actually think function should always be sacrificed for style? The style improvements of making it not removable are so damned minor.

But between the other announcements and snow leapard: if they make it replaceable again, I'll buy one in a heartbeat.
 
If you can manage to get through to the Apple servers it will both tell you if you qualify for an upgrade (during the purchase process) and let you order for on-site deliver on the 19th.

However, the site keeps blowing up.
 
So Snow Leopard can not be pre-ordered yet on the German store. Is this the same on every store? Was kinda hoping I could do this right now :)
 
God AT&T is such horseshit. I want to upgrade my 1G, but I dont know if I can stand another 2 years of them (assuming they are still allowing contract overwriting, nearly 3 if not), and then they still wont allow tethering or give me timely mms.
 
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