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WWDC10 Thread of iPhones and iProducts galore
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I've decided for a few weeks now not to go without a screen protector on my 3gs... we'll see how it goes.. for all of the worry I've had, all of my previous protectors have ended up having to be replaced because of small scratches, and it's my understanding that those protectors are incredibly easier to scratch than the iphone's actual glass. so if I can go months with only a minor not very deep scratch on an easy to scratch protector, I'm pretty confident the phone will be fine. Don't have a case on the back.. small micro scratches there but nothing major, and I LOVE not having a case on my phone. LOVE LOVE LOVE it. Though I'll probably get the bumper case for the iphone 4 (which WILL be pre-ordered next Tuesday.. I have a feeling this is going to be the fastest selling iphone yet and don't want to get to the store on saturday only to be turned away after standing in line for 2+ hours)
Mejilan said:
i've bought both of my iphones at at&t stores at their respective launch days and, trust me, it's pretty seamless regardless of what most people will lead you to believe. i assume they'll be doing a preorder on june 15th at the at&t store locations, they'll get a good number of those on the 24th, and some will be delivered on a later date to the store. (like whenever the 3G came out.) it's not much different than doing a preorder anywhere else.
if i DID have an apple store that wasn't 90 miles away, i'd consider going there though because they will, in fact, have much more on release day in the way of actual numbers. if you don't want to wait past release day, and if you get a discount on the equipment because of work, i'd suggest perhaps making a separate trip to the at&t store to buy accessories because you won't get a equipment discount on the phone itself.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Uh, you can immediately see the screen quality difference and its impact on the user. For the camera, Apple even downplayed the benefit of megapixels and explained in layman's terms how they improved the camera and showed real examples of it.Charred Greyface said:
It's just like the 3Gs. They didn't really say anything about what made it faster (unless you were a nerd and knew the common hardware in the device). Users just knew that it was faster when they used it and they liked it. Saying "it has 256 MB of RAM" means nothing, especially in cell phones where we don't have a historical measurement of how appreciable that added RAM would be to speed like we would know in PCs.
I'm not defending Apple. I'm defending sanity in spec wars.
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I see a mention of "Sandbox" in it right now, so perhaps I'll have to re-register. As it is, I can't get it to send me a proper verification e-mail to confirm my account (it seems to crash the app) so I'm guessing that I'm not truly registering with the service just yet.DoctorWho said:
Saying you have "larger monitors around the house" misses the entire point of the iPad. There are use cases where the iPad is far superior to the iPhone, even with the hardware bump.Flo_Evans said:
I'm not saying you should buy one, just that increased iPhone specs are a worthless factor in deciding.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Macs have always benefited (moreso than PCs one could argue) from more RAM. Because of their architecture/OS they have always happily used all the available RAM you could throw at it. I don't see why the phone OS would be any different.
With proper memory management 256MB may be plenty, but I get low memory warnings all the time on my 3G with 128MB.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I didn't say I wouldn't appreciate more RAM.Flo_Evans said:
Explain that shit to my mom and I'll agree with you that RAM numbers on cell phones matter. You even see GAF posts with guys thinking upgrading their RAM is going to do what the GPU does. Regular people just don't know or care. They just know if it feels good when they use it.
Tobor said:
Oh I get the point, I may still get one... or a netbook. Or a macbook.
My main issue with my iPhone is speed/crashing (presumably from low memory...) I was fine with the "low res" screen on the old one.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Easier to demo than explain, I just open a large (porn) website and show your mom how it crashes the browser. :lol
Minsc
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Sh0k said:
You can pre-order online for pick up in your local store.
Edit: beaten...
Tobor said:
I believe the pickup date for pre-orders is June 25th, not the 24th.
From what I read new apple products don't become available until around 5pm on launch day which is maybe why this is the case.
joeyjoejoeshabadoo
Member
Why not just have it shipped to you? It's free shipping and you'll get it on the 24th. Standing in line is for suckers.Sh0k said:
Lord Error
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I'm very late to this thread, but can someone clue me in if some of these have been discussed or answered already.
- On their conference video, Iphone 4's screen looks quite a bit darker than the 3GS screen. Darker in a way like when the backlight is turned down on 3GS. Was it just the backlight difference or is the new screen with smaller pixels not allowing as much light to come through, due to smaller pixels?
- The fillrate for gaming, how is it going to be affected with four times more pixels to draw now? The A4 chip as far as I know has just the same Pover VR graphics chip in it as the 3GS one, just clocked higher on Ipad - but since they never mentioned 1GHz for Iphone 4, we don't even know if the graphics hardware in this will be faster at all. This is very worrying to me since 3GS is a bit fillrate starved as it is, and I've heard the problem is even worse on Ipad, so this has the potential to be really bad. But I guess heavy graphics games could be continued to be made in 320x480 resolution, it's not like they would be affected all that much visually by that as they look fine on this screen size as it is.
- On their conference video, Iphone 4's screen looks quite a bit darker than the 3GS screen. Darker in a way like when the backlight is turned down on 3GS. Was it just the backlight difference or is the new screen with smaller pixels not allowing as much light to come through, due to smaller pixels?
- The fillrate for gaming, how is it going to be affected with four times more pixels to draw now? The A4 chip as far as I know has just the same Pover VR graphics chip in it as the 3GS one, just clocked higher on Ipad - but since they never mentioned 1GHz for Iphone 4, we don't even know if the graphics hardware in this will be faster at all. This is very worrying to me since 3GS is a bit fillrate starved as it is, and I've heard the problem is even worse on Ipad, so this has the potential to be really bad. But I guess heavy graphics games could be continued to be made in 320x480 resolution, it's not like they would be affected all that much visually by that as they look fine on this screen size as it is.
Minsc
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joeyjoejoeshabadoo said:
I would, but I imagine you need to be home to sign for the delivery, so my luck it'd end up constantly being "no one home to sign" and I'd have to wait the 3 failed attempts for it to stay at the local fed ex / post office to pick it up.
I just felt like throwing a reason out there, who knows what other reasons one may have.
Zombie James
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SuperPac
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Tobor said:
Last year they allowed reservations on the 3GS, but not pre-orders. This time it says you can do both, which is what they did for iPad launch. So that makes me wonder whether they'll allow you to order and have it shipped to you in addition to reservations at an apple store.
BTW, when I reserved the 3GS I waited in line for 15 minutes tops, and for the iPad it was 5 minutes.
This time I'll be pre-ordering and getting it delivered if that ends up being an option.Chorazin said:And that's why I took the day off.
That's a very good reason to take the day off. You should have mentioned that earlier (did you?) when that other poster was getting on your case..,@Liu Kang yeah the spec wars can get insane but it takes two to tango. I thought posters here were asking about the RAM to compare it to Apple's own history of cell phone devices not start a pissing contest with HTC/Palm/Windows folks *shrug*. And developers do need this info. They had to wait until they purchased the iPad themselves before they could figure it out. Frankly it prevented many of them from making, and optimizing, good apps.
I'm watching the WWDC podcast on my iPad and can't see the screen difference in the demos. Apple should have released a higher quality video?
dorkimoe
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Did they ever say how much ram this thing had?
ALSO. As long as incase slider and powersupportusa release iphone4 products i will be all set, and not have to spend another 6 months finding the best case.
powersupportusa has the best anti glare screen protector out. No glossy greasy look
ALSO. As long as incase slider and powersupportusa release iphone4 products i will be all set, and not have to spend another 6 months finding the best case.
powersupportusa has the best anti glare screen protector out. No glossy greasy look
What runs well for you?mrkgoo said:
I know there have been some minor performance issues on the iPad. Some games which were actually 60 fps on iPhone 3GS, for instance, run slower on iPad despite simply upscaling. Framerates in a lot of iPad games have also been pretty slow as well. The high resolution screen sounds awesome, but I wish they had upgraded the GPU a bit as well.
VariantX04
Loser slave of the system :(
So we should expect this to be similar to the 3GS in terms of specific carrier lockouts (locked in the US, unlocked in Australia), correct?
dorkimoe
Member
Sh0k said:
If it helps. I ordered my 3gs on apple.com as soon as we could and got it day 1 at like 11am.
Im waiting to see the checkout options on apple.com before i decide. If they dont let me keep my current plan then im going to have to go in to att and do it so i can keep unlimited data
DeathbyVolcano
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Yeah, Apple definitely fucked up here. Should've offered a 720p version of the conference. Check out some of Engadget's videos/pictures of the screen, its immediately noticeable.
AgentWhiskersX said:
Unlocked iPhones are already sold in the US. Matter of fact, unlocked versions of the 4 are already up for pre-order: http://negrielectronics.com/apple-iphone-4g-hd-32gb-black-factory-unlocked.html
DeathbyVolcano
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Minsc said:
Docking, as in the connection? Or docking, in terms of the shells and moldings of products to fit the iWhatever in snuggly?
VariantX04
Loser slave of the system :(
Never heard of Negri Electronics. Pardon my ignorance but is this legit? I'm assuming it's based outside the US judging from the grammar in the "brought you by:" bit. If it's legit I'm plopping down the cash right now since where I live, i'll be lucky if I get one in 2011.DrFunk said:
Yep Apple announced a new dock but they haven't put up pictures yet. If you wait a bit, third parties will probably create adapters so you can fit your existing accessories with the new phoneMinsc said:
One accessory I wanted Apple to unviel is a (stereo) bluetooth headset. With the much improved battery life on the iPhone 4 and iPad, I'm more inclined to turn Bluetooth on...
Do you guys bring you iphone without screen covers/back covers?
Damn. I had a back/screen cover since day one, and the phone looks like it was taken out of the box, but the covers are full of small scratchs and shit. I don't know how you could end with it without them. No soft covers or anything? Just the naked iphone on your pocket/bag?
Damn.
For reference, this is the state of my back cover, 3gs 1 year old:
You can see all the small scratches. It's been alwats on my pocket or on my bag.
Damn. I had a back/screen cover since day one, and the phone looks like it was taken out of the box, but the covers are full of small scratchs and shit. I don't know how you could end with it without them. No soft covers or anything? Just the naked iphone on your pocket/bag?
Damn.
For reference, this is the state of my back cover, 3gs 1 year old:
You can see all the small scratches. It's been alwats on my pocket or on my bag.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Why do you give a shit if the back of your phone has tiny scratches and scuffs?