paranoidfortean
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Yeah, you can't use that hardware you bought unless you pay extra.
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Xbox Ones Game DVR, SmartMatch, NFL, TV Guide Restricted To Xbox Live Gold Members
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Of course not. Doesn't change the fact that MS is happy as long as it gets away with it.
Oh you mean these events without internet that broadcasts their tournaments on twich.tv? Gotcha.
In all seriousness, there are very few public places without access to an internet connection these days.
Many people buy these consoles for offline use only? I'd be surprised by how "many" that is.
And I don't see the need to record gameplay for self use? The point is to share these videos with friends or on the internet. Now for the 0.001% of people that would like to look at themselves play and who don't have access to the internet, well tough luck I guess...
As I said, it's no big deal.
Calavera520
Member
Short and simple Microsoft seriously fucked up on the strategy of this system. The shit keeps piling on. Sweeping policy changes late in the game, spec changes (even if minuscule) on the shipping hardware, and just a fundamentally inexplicable approach to media delivery. So i pay for Netflix Hulu etc but I should pay msoft also for the privilege of watching on their console?
On the website listing for XBL Gold "Features" on the One, it lists:
"Experience premium entertainment apps including movies, TV shows, music, sports and more."
That sounds like where Netflix would sit to me.
sixteen-bit
Member
I haven't payed for MP in several years and I have uploaded game footage as well. So yeah, we're out there.
"the cloud" doesn't mean anything. Someone help me out.
For XB1 and PS4, are we talking
MS/Sony Servers
Twitch
YouTube
UStream
??????????
Don't you want microsoft to make more money than the competition?
FonkyByNature
Member
Not surprised one bit. As many said, Xbox without Gold is useless.
I still don't understand why apps are behind a paywall, i really hate Microsoft for that and i can't recommand the console to my casual friends who want and video player and a game machine. These casuals will never pay a gold membership for apps, it's just ridiculous !
I still don't understand why apps are behind a paywall, i really hate Microsoft for that and i can't recommand the console to my casual friends who want and video player and a game machine. These casuals will never pay a gold membership for apps, it's just ridiculous !
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Um how did you expect to be able to share any gameplay without gold? You cNt even use Netflix and that's not even something Microsoft runs off their servers.
You basically don't get to use any online capable feature without gold. So this isn't surprising.
You basically don't get to use any online capable feature without gold. So this isn't surprising.
Also there's the gamertag.xbox domains
So any clip you save will go on there - basically be a Facebook/youtube and maybe twitch style hybrid if they can get the integration.
(None of this has been confirmed yet)
GrizzledGrump
Banned
Likewise. Gold with the X360 is a horrible deal if you don't play online games all the time. My X360 sits on the floor collecting dust. Don't even game on it anymore due to it sounding like a leaf-blower (launch refurb).
I don't need to pay for Gold to upload offline matches to Youtube.
Stop being dense.
Also, wasn't it something like 30 million 360 owners don't use internet for the console?
So if you have a live account, play with it in say january, and then decide to go offline for a couple of months, during which your gold expires, will it let you record your games in march as long as you dont reconnect?
edit: or knowing MS it will delete the game recordings as soon as it sees "Oops you werent authorized to record yourself playing video games. only we can do that. /joke
edit: or knowing MS it will delete the game recordings as soon as it sees "Oops you werent authorized to record yourself playing video games. only we can do that. /joke
shinobi602
Member
Really? Single player games don't need Gold. Do you know how many people upload game walkthroughs online?
Uno Venova
Banned
I just expected them, moving into the next gen, to make some practices less shit. That was probably naive.
Sony uses Sony servers to share videos across PSN. They stream with Ustream. You can also upload videos to facebook and youtube.
Microsoft uses the Cloud to share videos across Xbox Live. They stream with Twitch.
I think that is all we know right now.
It is tough luck I agree but your self-righteous, 'if you can't afford gold then don't get an X1' is the main point of disagreement here. Logic seems to evade you it would seem. Many people do not need online services.
[EDIT] 46m gold accounts - 76m consoles sold. You do the math... if you can.
Yeah, you have no clue. Xbox 360, a console lauded for its online functionality, had 50 million owners who didn't have a Gold subscription. That's a big portion when you see the total console sales for the 360 haven't even reached 80 million yet.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Whenever the time comes when I pick up an XBone I won't be subscribing to XBL. Adding features which are free on everything else to your subscription model to create "added value" stinks. I don't play multiplayer games, so there is no way in hell I'd pay a subscription so I could upload videos, watch Netflix or Youtube. Where the value for money in that? I'll be able to do all that on my PS3/4/PC for no extra cost.
I don't mind paying for PS+ because it gives me something back in the form of games, so having multiplayer in there makes no difference to me, other than I'll actually still be able to play it if I did want to. If PS+ was purely about mulitplayer and hiding things behind a paywall I wouldn't pay for that either. Thankfully Sony actually offer you value to your subscription.
SwiftDeath
Member
Because Xbox live subscription is a 100% attach rate
right
http://www.geekwire.com/2013/microsoft-24m-kinect-sensors-sold-xbox-live-reaches-46m-members/
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Considering they do this with stuff like Netflix this shouldn't come as a surprise. Added value and all that.
These stats a skewed. I have an xbox live account and I don't even have an xbox 360. Does games for Windows Live ring a bell?
LukasTaves
Member
For Xbone I think it's safe to assume that whenever Ms says cloud they mean azure.
Version 3.0
Member
That's a pretty big deal for me...this is the next-gen feature I was most looking forward to. Once they did away with the DRM BS, I was back in the Day 1 crowd. Now, I don't know.
This is crossing another line, making offline features online-dependent again.
This is crossing another line, making offline features online-dependent again.
Thanks for the info, but "the Cloud" doesn't mean MS Server. It's not an MS term. It just means "server on the internet".
"CLOUD" can be MS, or Amazon, or Google, or Joe Smith's Cloud Emporium.
Because Xbox live subscription is a 100% attach rate
right
http://www.geekwire.com/2013/microsoft-24m-kinect-sensors-sold-xbox-live-reaches-46m-members/
And even that is actually combining Silver + Gold members together. Microsoft stated a while back that about 50% of Xbox Live members have gold subscriptions.
Nightengale
Member
How many? More than 30 million.
Last numbers quoted was that out of 77 mil X360s sold, 46 million were XBL subscribers.
Yes, that number include the free Silver membership.
Let's assume 60-65% pay for Gold. That is only around 30 million Gold members.
flyinpiranha
Member
I'm actually surprised. I figured they'd have the basic features for uploading/recording and then offer "benefits" for the people on Live, like in-app editing and more storage if it isn't YT or the like. Kind of like with Skate how you could 'buy' the extra camera features and such.
fanboys doing damage control
Version 3.0
Member
Why restrict demos, either? They're basically test drives for potential buyers. It's never made any sense.
famousmortimer
Banned
Yup
This isn't just a swipe at microsoft... this is where everything is headed. It sucks.
lol, yeah, this is really dumb.
In that case, using your example, they are skewed AGAINST your argument and not for it. *FACEPALM*
Same thing MS's cloud or ms's servers, whatever.
How so? I have an Xbox live account, without gold. Just live 99% of PC gamers. *FACEPALM*
So they both use the Cloud then.
If the PS4 shared videos aren't simply embedded Youtube videos in PS4 interdace and are in Sony's servers i think that share videos will be behind PS+.