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[BruceLeeRoy]

It will be interesting to see if there is a noticeable downgrade in the visuals between now and launch.

 

[Krilekk]

The fact that it's running on a PC isn't surprising, but that It isn't Windows 8 is. Isn't the XBone running a modified version of Windows 8 as an OS?

Only for apps.

 

[FranXico]

Surprised that the dev kits aren't running on Windows 8, but other than that, nothing shocking really.

 

[Proelite]

It will be interesting to see if there is a noticeable downgrade in the visuals between now and launch.

Thuway right again?

 

[Gemüsepizza]

From 2 G5 desktop macs to a laptop. How times are changing.

 

[Erasus]

Was just about to post those up from the Mattrick thread.

Technical people, what does this mean.

Its running on a PC with a One controller attached.

This seems to still be right

Did you know that nearly every multiplatform game demoed at E3 – especially during press conferences – is running on PC? I’ve asked, and so far, I’ve yet to get a “no.” Watch Dogs, Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Far Cry 3, Metro: Last Light, Medal of Honor, Battlefield, Crysis 3, etc, etc. Here’s the weird thing, though: no one talks about it.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/07/pc-gaming-e3s-dirty-little-secret/

Games are developed on PC and unless they put devkits in there its gonna be PC

 

[InPlosion]

That's why "Console Exclusivity" is just a matter of money, and why I hate it so much.

 

[sTeLioSco]

told you to compare gfx on release....

i already see some games that i think will not look the same on the real console.

 

[Monty Mole]

Not the same deal at all. PS4 games don't run on Windows 7.

Sony isn't the company behind Windows 7.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

No wonder parts of Ryse looked way beyond Crysis 3 on high-end PC.

I suspect they used the extra juice in the PC GPUs to turn some effects up to 11.

This doesn't make any sense. Its because Crysis 3, while amazing visually, is still very much chained to 360/PS3 spec. Ryse doesn't have those restrictions.

 

[hooijdonk17]

He should've done a quick look at the Device Manager to see what the hardware was.

I bet 16GB RAM and crossfire 7970x2

I'll bet my ass that XBOX One games will run much poorer than they do on these PCs when they launch.

 

[sTeLioSco]

He should've done a quick look at the Device Manager to see what the hardware was.

I bet 16GB RAM and crossfire 7970x2

I'll bet my ass that XBOX One games will run much poorer than they do on these PCs when they launch.

i can bet money.(but they wont look much poorer.......)

 

[Satchel]

E3 2005 360 games were running on Macs.

Point?

 

[Gemüsepizza]

That right now a laptop seems to be sufficient instead of a full blown desktop PC, for example?

 

[Nikodemos]

Not even MS uses Windows 8.

Microsoft famously eat their own dog food. But using Windows 8 would be like eating cat sick, so it's fair enough they avoid it.

This is why I love this place.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

It means the games aren't running on final silicon yet. That is a big deal just 5 months away from launch.

If the rumoured devkit specs are right and the rumoured Xbone specs are also right, I don't see how Thuway can be wrong. There will be a noticeable downgrade from the E3 versions to what players get at home.

 

[Ban Puncher]

"Hey wait, that's not an Xbone...."


"THIS EXHIBIT IS CLOSED!"

 

[careless mango]

The big deal isn't so much that it's running on a PC. It's that the PC isn't using Windows 8.

Big system shifts like upgrading operating systems are most likely made in between projects and I'd wager that every single one of these games were started way before Windows 8 shipped its release version.

 

[SneakyStephan]

edit ops wrong tab

 

[Erasus]

It means the games aren't running on final silicon yet. That is a big deal just 5 months away from launch.

If the rumoured devkit specs are right and the rumoured Xbone specs are also right, I don't see how Thuway can be wrong. There will be a noticeable downgrade from the E3 versions to what players get at home.

Not really. Final devkits go out pretty late

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

HP branded Laptops sound like an interesting devkit.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Not really. Final devkits go out pretty late

It is pretty late already.

 

[Osiris]

HP branded Laptops sound like an interesting devkit.

They are not devkits, the HP branding gives that away, they are just PC's specced in such a way to simulate the final hardware, this was already confirmed by the BF4 team.

 

[Caddle]

Why just a downgrade for xb1 and not the ps4, stop believing your own shit poeple.

 

[dejay]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE OUTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!

Who the fuck buys HP?

 

[lefantome]

Doeas anybody remembers the mac g5 used to demo xbox 360 games at e3 2005?

Clearly the devkit aren't final yet and the games are running on pcs

 

[Jezbollah]

I dont buy HP, and I fucking work for them. Not even a serious staff discount could persuade me.

 

[sechsterangriff]

Dev kits use Visual Studio so that's not surprising.

 

[sTeLioSco]

Why just a downgrade for xb1 and not the ps4, stop believing your own shit poeple.

because xbox1 has weaker specs?

 

[KissVibes]

What game was it?

 

[KidBeta]

Not really. Final devkits go out pretty late

Near final devkits (final GPU, CPU, with 2 display planes an SHAPE+ESRAM) was meant to happen at the start of this year.

It might have not had SHAPE.

But its so damn close it doesnt matter.

 

[Ludicrous Speed]

So glad to be a pc gamer. This proves that pc will at least match xbox and ps4. Of course it will surpass them but here is for the non believers

 

[sTeLioSco]

So glad to be a pc gamer. This proves that pc will at least match xbox and ps4. Of course it will surpass them but here is for the non believers

the only problem with pc gaming is that everyone forgets a thing called price.

developers make games on pc but not release them on pc.the super-gaming-pc market is smaller than consoles

 

[SuicidalSteve]

Is this relevant to the thread? Not sure if posted.

Some one from Jalopnik got sent to "Microsoft Jail" for taking a picture of what seems to be a laptop

Here

 

[Impeccable]

Is this relevant to the thread? Not sure if posted.

Some one from Jalopnik got sent to "Microsoft Jail" for taking a picture of what seems to be a laptop

Here

Microsoft jail, oh shit.

 

[jeff_rigby]

During the pre-E3 Spike live coverage, Geoff interviewed some Microsoft exec(forgot who it was) and specifically asked him if Xbone games would actually be playable on the show floor. The guy openly said the games at the show would be playable on Xbone dev kits. So, it's not like they were dodging the question.

I thought GAF would've jumped on that sound bite right away, but of course GAF was inaccessible at the time.

AMD says IOMMU v2.5 is key for Linux HSA support 5/2/2013

CHIP DESIGNER AMD said it is working to get IOMMU v2.5 support in the Linux kernel ahead of the first heterogeneous system architecture (HSA) chip that will come out later this year.

If they didn't have a Linux = (POSIX OS) = FreeBSD Unix driver for the IOMMU in AMD chips, and that's key as the AMD version is likely where they put the interface between ARM Trustzone and other ARM IP and AMD X86/GPU, then how could you have a stable OS on the PS4 and XB1?

 

[Rubius]

"Hey wait, that's not an Xbone...."


"THIS EXHIBIT IS CLOSED!"

"Quiet!"

 

[DBT85]

Is this relevant to the thread? Not sure if posted.

Some one from Jalopnik got sent to "Microsoft Jail" for taking a picture of what seems to be a laptop

Here

I don;t get why they wanted to hide this

 

[The Dutch Slayer]

That is just a dev environment no big deal, that happens at a trade show all the time.
Had that last year a lot at gamescom with WiiU games.
Reset WiiU games like once very demo.

 

[CTLance]

So we've gone from two desktop computers (albeit PPC & probably old OSX) barely managing to provide target specs ... to rinky dinky laptops?

I mean, who knows, there are some crazy gaming laptops out there. HP may not be the best in that regard but they do have some neat boxes.

Still, if we stick to the general "Laptops are geared towards battery life, not performance" mantra this just drives home the observation that current PCs really outclass nextgen consoles. Nothing new, but was it always that much of a gulf?

TL;DR: Will not buy into nextgen until devboxes need at least three laptops to emulate target console. Anything below that is unacceptable.

Spoiler

Yes, I'm joking.

 

[ILoveBish]

Did someone get the model # of the HP Win7 pc in question? I could get my own Xbox One dev kit right now, someone please find out!

 

[Rubius]

"And then one of the PR reps appeared out of nowhere, hurt and confused at my betrayal. I assured him I really, really didn't care about their super-secret laptop, and probably wasn't going to reverse-engineer an XBox One from it, but this time I just gave them my camera and let them delete the photo."

Oh wow. Gaming, its serious business. At least it didnt run on a Ps3. I really wonder what was so important about the computer.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Julien Rignall? Wow. It's been years!

 

[Angelus Errare]

Not really. Final devkits go out pretty late

It's pretty late, Xbox One is launching in 5 months.

 

[Rubius]

It's pretty late, Xbox One is launching in 5 months.

Yeah, if the Console didnt go Gold, it will probably will soon. I dont think they can way 1 month before to build a million of console.

 

[something fishy]

haha. classic.

 

[Pyramid head]

Yup.

And Mean Machines & glory-age C&VG. Also a founder of IGN.

I miss those days.

 

[jaosobno]

Looks like Microsoft is hell bent on providing us with 24/7 LOLathon.

 

[w1ck3dn1nj4]

Surprised it didn’t crash to Windows 8, what with the "One size fits all" cock tale and such. Seems like the perfect fit.

 

[BlackLagoon]

Not really. Final devkits go out pretty late

But without access to the actual hardware, devs won't be able to make the platform specific optimizations that enable a console to run games like a much more expensive PC. They'll have no other choice but to lower the quality of the visuals.