SonnyMarrow
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Does Europe not use HDMI? Just because the guide overlay won't be compatible, you can still watch through the Xbox. Plus, MS said they want to roll out globally in the future.
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Xbox One: live TV available in US only at launch, requires separate device
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Does Europe not use HDMI? Just because the guide overlay won't be compatible, you can still watch through the Xbox. Plus, MS said they want to roll out globally in the future.
faceless007
Member
I don't know how MS could single-handedly fix this problem though. The cable box (especially if a DVR) just carries too much useful functionality to control through a dumb overlay. The only truly unified way to do this would require every cable provider to work with MS and build in an interface for the Xbox in their software.
Dominican Power
Member
My Samsung Verizon Fios TV cable box doesn't have a clock and has an energy star sticker on it and it's pretty thin.
Burgess_101
Member
Why would you even bother with that? Its not worth it. Couple it with the fact no one really cares about NFL anywhere other than America. We are left with a machine that doesn't function to full extent of its capabilities.
you can watch more than just the nfl...
Burgess_101
Member
Due to how competitive the licensing is for Football, Cricket, Tennis etc. I doubt MS can pull it off or will even try to.
If you don't do the guide overlay, the supposedly lead feature of this multiple hundred dollar set top box is that it includes a glorified two way adaptor cable.
That nfl feed was just coming from the tv provider, xbox is using hdmi in to bring the signal to the xbox. There are no partnerships involved. If you want extra features like companion apps then sure but a tv feed just requires hdmi in and a compatible tv box.
SonnyMarrow
Banned
I'd love to not have to switch TV inputs. If I can switch and split screen tv with Xbox stuff, why wouldn't I want that?
statham
Member
yes, until they work out deals to completely replace your cable box.
Wow that would be major annoyance to anybody in the UK who uses Sky+.
Although I can't even change between Sky channels as fast that guy could switch between everything so that was to be expected.
thezerofire
Banned
this is great
Burgess_101
Member
When I use my Sky box though being too slow isn't even a problem with it. It works fine. Mind this doesn't effect me because I game on my PC its just a lot of what you pay for you can't use and I don't agree with it.
Zoe
Member
Nobody knew there would only be HDMI-in before today.
But you can't do that from a TV if the TV doesn't have HDMI-out.
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
So they spent all that time talking about TV functionality that is not even included out the box?
No words. I keep thinking it can't get any worse, and then it somehow does.
No words. I keep thinking it can't get any worse, and then it somehow does.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
It seems highly unlikely that Sky will allow the XB1 to access their platform and add an overlay. This idea that MS and Sky will team up to offer some super duper experience in the UK is a fantasy. If they had a deal then they would have announced it last night.
shinra-bansho
Member
So it isn't actually a receiver device?
So they want people to buy this enormous box and camera for I don't know $400? To plug in their receiver devices bought separately, to control it through XBO?
And only in the US?
Is this supposed to be a major selling point?
Okay...
So they want people to buy this enormous box and camera for I don't know $400? To plug in their receiver devices bought separately, to control it through XBO?
And only in the US?
Is this supposed to be a major selling point?
Okay...
zomgbbqftw
Banned
I think we'll have a $599 moment at E3 when they announce the price of the bundle which includes this receiver box.
So let's see how their announcements affect me in the UK:
TV - not being released outside the US at launch (yet took up the majority of a supposed worldwide reveal)
ESPN - won't be in the UK as channels are different and "ESPN UK" is owned by BT
NFL - probably won't be here as Sky have the rights
TV series - will probably arrive here but it doesn't convince me to get a console I want to play games on
Games - there were some games! Need to wait until E3 to see more.
I'm honestly quite surprised they're going this US-focussed with it, or at least that they'd make that so blatently clear at a reveal watched round the world. Are they just not bothered about selling the thing anywhere else now?
TV - not being released outside the US at launch (yet took up the majority of a supposed worldwide reveal)
ESPN - won't be in the UK as channels are different and "ESPN UK" is owned by BT
NFL - probably won't be here as Sky have the rights
TV series - will probably arrive here but it doesn't convince me to get a console I want to play games on
Games - there were some games! Need to wait until E3 to see more.
I'm honestly quite surprised they're going this US-focussed with it, or at least that they'd make that so blatently clear at a reveal watched round the world. Are they just not bothered about selling the thing anywhere else now?
Beer Monkey
Member
I just read this again and realized that there are still new people who thought Xbox One would have four different kinds of television tuners in it, three of them extremely secure and encrypted. And that their crazy scenario would leave the IPTV crowd out of the market.
And I shake my head until I feel dizzy.
And I shake my head until I feel dizzy.
Because it's One too many
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Why is it that when I hear about this extra crap the XBone requires to run at full capacity, I'm reminded of the Sega 32X CD?
At least this time we get a wifi receiver built in, right?
At least this time we get a wifi receiver built in, right?
People probably expected Microsoft to have a smart IPTV solution that doesn't require any tuners. Instead we get the same HDMI CEC and IR Blaster nightmare we've been used to all along.
I noticed how they never switched channels
sankt-Antonio
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Wait, is this more or less like playTV for PS? But with better OS integration?
People were maybe hoping they wouldn't have to face the same old shit that's been tried dozens of times before but never worked.
Marty Chinn
Member
Because that would be a much bigger task to tackle in getting every television provider to have an online streaming source for all their content and an app that works on the Xbox 360. This approach makes it much easier to work with practically any television provider.
What sort of shit sky box do you have?
I can switch fast using my remote, using my iphone or using my ipad.
GameSeeker
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Microsoft didn't reveal the real reason they are so laser focused on TV and not gaming: advertising dollars. XBOX One should really be called TVBOX One, because Microsoft wants to tap into the TV advertising stream.
When you watch TV using TVBOX One, the Kinect sensor is fully on and recording everything you and your family do. It will track how many people are watching TV, whether you watch commercials or use the bathroom instead, are you bored or excited (by tracking heartrate & body position), are you using a Smart Glass device, etc. All this information will be collected and transmitted to the Microsoft servers so Microsoft can then feed you advertising. (If you don't believe me, please read the 10+ page fine print in the TVBOX One Terms of Service (TOS) contract. You will see that Microsoft reserves the right to collect any and all data about you and your family using Kinect. It's also why you can't disable Kinect.)
Microsoft wants to take the advertising to even greater heights in the future. They want to pioneer two-way interactive television with customer focused advertising. This is why they are spending hundreds of millions of dollars on Steven Spielberg and a Halo TV series. They can do things like make interactive commercials where they ask you to wave at the Kinect in order to get a chance to win a bag of Doritos chips, or whatever gimmick they come up with.
As many analysts have said, Microsoft is no longer competing against Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft is competing against Apple & Samsung for ownership of the Entertainment living room. It may turn out to be a brilliant strategy, only time will tell.
When you watch TV using TVBOX One, the Kinect sensor is fully on and recording everything you and your family do. It will track how many people are watching TV, whether you watch commercials or use the bathroom instead, are you bored or excited (by tracking heartrate & body position), are you using a Smart Glass device, etc. All this information will be collected and transmitted to the Microsoft servers so Microsoft can then feed you advertising. (If you don't believe me, please read the 10+ page fine print in the TVBOX One Terms of Service (TOS) contract. You will see that Microsoft reserves the right to collect any and all data about you and your family using Kinect. It's also why you can't disable Kinect.)
Microsoft wants to take the advertising to even greater heights in the future. They want to pioneer two-way interactive television with customer focused advertising. This is why they are spending hundreds of millions of dollars on Steven Spielberg and a Halo TV series. They can do things like make interactive commercials where they ask you to wave at the Kinect in order to get a chance to win a bag of Doritos chips, or whatever gimmick they come up with.
As many analysts have said, Microsoft is no longer competing against Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft is competing against Apple & Samsung for ownership of the Entertainment living room. It may turn out to be a brilliant strategy, only time will tell.
The good news is that the Sky box doesn't support HDMI-CEC in the first place, so it wouldn't work regardless.
No, you need something that can send the TV signal to the Xbone by HDMI, ethernet, or WiFi for it to do the TV stuff
As it stands it won't work with Sky or Virgin, so the UK is kinda fucked, too.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Xbox One (more)
Its funny because this isn't even a thing anymore. Smart phones, tablets, netbooks, and the increased penetration of televisions in the household have basically killed the "family gets together in the living room" idea. Cable television is shrinking and being replaced with streaming services that are available to the individual, the family doesn't have to agree on what they're consuming when they can all consume their own media individually.
Apple is only half-heartedly competing in the living room with the Apple TV, it never gets the stage to itself like the iPhone or iPad. Samsung doesn't even compete in the space outside of just the television itself.
There certainly is a business for television media services, but it isn't gangbusters huge. Roku does well, but they're not rolling around in billions. What the XOne is doing is basically shoving Google TV inside of the Xbox, and Google TV is a failure.
This is a pretty big misstep for Microsoft.
Haunted
Member
To quote a former Microsoft Create Director: "Why would anyone live there?"
The basic inability to utilize all that hard drive and multi-os systems to allow DVR processing functions nearly renders the whole feature set obsolete right off the bat.
flyinpiranha
Member
Wait, are people really that fucking stupid as to think that the Xbox One would replace EVERY single possible combination of cable box/carrier/dish/satellite TV setup in the US and (by the posts in this thread), the world?
Hahaha! Holy shit, it's like a whole new level of stupidity.
Hahaha! Holy shit, it's like a whole new level of stupidity.