Andronicus
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meh. its how far from launch?
I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.
CBoat do you mind adding anything?
If 900 GFLOPS for gaming, then that would mean clocks went from 800ghz to 650 for the GPU (768x650x2 = 998GFLOPS, 90%for games = 898GFLOPS). 150ghz drop is Huge! That's nearly a 20% drop in clock speeds. I would believe a 50ghz, maybe 100, but 150ghz almost sounds too big of a drop to be true.
Weren't you part of the secret sauce and a whole bunch of other fake rumors guy before the ps4 reveal?
IF this is true - and it's a huge IF - I really would pay for a retrospective once the Xbox one is out on exactly how this all happened, piece by piece, day by day. This has been one revolving torturous slog of horrific information about Xbox One that has not even ended for a single day since early this year. It's sickeningly relentless at this point.
meh. its how far from launch?
I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.
CBoat do you mind adding anything?
He had a few missteps.thuway is the solid one I'm pretty sure
I'll help out. I can confirm for a fact that it's false. If I'm wrong, I'll take a ban. I can't say how I know this for sure, but I'm pretty damn sure.
Have you shared any info like this in the past? Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with your posts.
your job will be done by the time we know anyway, so its not like you are risking much.
Who is cboat? I don't see a user with that name. Is it short for something? I wanna know the insiders!
I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.
CBoat do you mind adding anything?
YYes and he's been spouting some ridiculous claims about what the ESRAM will do for the XBO GPU lately.
Yeah, me too. If that occurs, I hope someone spills the beans. I'm fascinated as to how all this could have happened. It seems like they're dead set on being out this fall, even though they may want to wait a few months, especially with rumors of games and toolsets being behind. Still, the power is still the least of the console's concerns, it would basically be PS2 versus Xbox again, except this time the more powerful one also the bandwidth advantage.
Yes and he's been spouting some ridiculous claims about what the ESRAM will do for the XBO GPU lately.
For the sake of multiplatform game development, I hope this new rumor is false. Sounds like X1 would be a huge anchor.
He quoted thuway, not Senjutsu.
How did he avoid the banhammer then? I know mods came down hard on some other bullshit rumors spreaders, I know he was banned for other reasons at that time maybe he got lucky
Hmm? If this is true I wonder what caused it.
Isn't that the advantage of similar architectures though?For the sake of multiplatform game development, I hope this new rumor is false. Sounds like X1 would be a huge anchor.
That's great to hear .Nope, I don't speak nearly as often on here about what I know for certain on the new Xbox. In fact, I try not to be the subject of any leaks, because I'd more or less be betraying someone's trust, but in the case of this most recent thing about a downclock of the GPU, I literally begged permission to say definitively that it's absolutely not true.
The only thing that's true is that they are having a bit of a headache with the ESRAM. THAT is certainly true, but (all speculation after this) I think that's more down to the manufacturing difficulty of the ESRAM and yields, not actually using a finished and working version of the GPU for software related purposes.
If 900 GFLOPS for gaming, then that would mean clocks went from 800ghz to 650 for the GPU (768x650x2 = 998GFLOPS, 90%for games = 898GFLOPS). 150ghz drop is Huge! That's nearly a 20% drop in clock speeds. I would believe a 50ghz, maybe 100, but 150ghz almost sounds too big of a drop to be true.
The only thing that's true is that they are having a bit of a headache with the ESRAM. THAT is certainly true, but (all speculation after this) I think that's more down to the manufacturing difficulty of the ESRAM and yields, not actually using a finished and working version of the GPU for software related purposes.
IF this is true - and it's a huge IF - I really would pay for a retrospective once the Xbox one is out on exactly how this all happened, piece by piece, day by day. This has been one revolving torturous slog of horrific information about Xbox One that has not even ended for a single day since early this year. It's sickeningly relentless at this point.
Yeah, me too. If that occurs, I hope someone spills the beans. I'm fascinated as to how all this could have happened. It seems like they're dead set on being out this fall, even though they may want to wait a few months, especially with rumors of games and toolsets being behind. Still, the power is still the least of the console's concerns, it would basically be PS2 versus Xbox again, except this time the more powerful one also the bandwidth advantage.
Real Xboxes don't work with clickers.
Ok, who doesn't have inside info at this point?
I've heard the same about the ESRAM (as I shared with another poster who mentioned as such in this thread), and truthfully I think that's where all of the yield issues are coming from. Whether they need to downclock something to improve yields for it is a different story, but MS' APU is much more complicated and required a lot more engineers at AMD/ATI for a reason.
I've heard the same about the ESRAM (as I shared with another poster who mentioned as such in this thread), and truthfully I think that's where all of the yield issues are coming from. Whether they need to downclock something to make up for it is a different story, but MS' APU is much more complicated and required a lot more engineers at AMD/ATI for a reason.
downclocking the GPU wouldn't make any sense if the ESRAM is causing yield problems
and if the CPU or GPU sections of the chip are causing any issues then expect to see the same from sony, they're using the same architecture, chip foundry, and even roughly similar die sizes
Nope, I don't speak nearly as often on here about what I know for certain on the new Xbox. In fact, I try not to be the subject of any leaks, because I'd more or less be betraying someone's trust, but in the case of this most recent thing about a downclock of the GPU, I literally begged permission to say definitively that it's absolutely not true.
The only thing that's true is that they are having a bit of a headache with the ESRAM. THAT is certainly true, but (all speculation after this) I think that's more down to the manufacturing difficulty of the ESRAM and yields, not actually using a finished and working version of the GPU for software related purposes.
The more powerful one would also be launching at the same time as the weaker one. This was definitely not the case with the PS2 and Xbox.
That's an actual user or just talking about hype trains?crazy buttocks on a train
Hmm? If this is true I wonder what caused it.
I agree with everyone that says you kind of expect this to be the case, and most people noticed it wasn't real time.
...But then, they shouldn't have focused SO MUCH on saying "see? see how fast that was?". That part is sleazy, in my opinion. It's one thing to show the concept of what you are aiming for, it's another to highlight how fast it is when it's nothing of the sort.
Isn't that eDRAM?even the wii u has 32MB of embedded ESRAM...
How did he avoid the banhammer then? I know mods came down hard on some other bullshit rumors spreaders, I know he was banned for other reasons at that time maybe he got lucky
downclocking the GPU wouldn't make any sense if the ESRAM is causing yield problems
and if the CPU or GPU sections of the chip are causing any issues then expect to see the same from sony, they're using the same architecture, chip foundry, and even roughly similar die sizes
That's an actual user or just talking about hype trains?
Correct. However Sony's pretty much good to go at this point, pre-manufacture. We'll see how their manufacture goes over the next couple months.
I'm kind of new to this. Are you a reputable source? It's hard to believe everything on the internet, ya know.
Nice bird.
I wouldn't worry about Sony. In fact I am hearing the issue is because ES RAM is causing issues.
he only thing that's true is that they are having a bit of a headache with the ESRAM. THAT is certainly true, but (all speculation after this) I think that's more down to the manufacturing difficulty of the ESRAM and yields.
That's an actual user or just talking about hype trains?
So if they aren't downclocking and the ESRAM is the source of the issues, what could they possibly do to help yields?
So if they aren't downclocking and the ESRAM is the source of the issues, what could they possibly do to help yields?