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Xbox One: The best-selling console in America.

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They deserve it!

I feel like Sony is sliding into some complacency this past year and a half and while it's still my favorite, we need good competition! Everyone wins with competition!
In what world is releasing two brand new hardware considered complacency? If you don't like them then that's your opinion but I'm talking about in general.
 
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This thread is delivering. lol

The comments of the video are funny, there's a guy arguing that it's true "yes! There is Condemned, and Gears 1,2,3,4, Forza Horizon 1, 2, 3, Forza 2, 3, 4, 5, 6" etc etc etc, 70 of the games he's naming are 360s. xD

Whats wrong with BC games?
 
Phil Spencer on the whole MAU/sales thing. It's hard to argue what he's saying, he makes good points about it. While sales are still important, what use is selling 100M consoles if only 10M of them are active?


“The next thing I want to talk about is how we’re gauging our success, because there has been a little bit of dialog on this as well. Back in the fall, we pivoted how we talk about our Xbox success. We’ve been talking about monthly active users […].

Let me talk a bit about why I feel that is the critical point for us in thinking about success. People ask me: “does this have anything to do with how Xbox One is doing relatively to PlayStation 4 lately, is that why you’ve gone to monthly active users?” And the answer is no.

It's what's known as a lie. If they were ahead of the PS4, they'd tell us the sales numbers, just like they did with the 360.
 
It's what's known as a lie. If they were ahead of the PS4, they'd tell us the sales numbers, just like they did with the 360.

Except that they haven't. And they've had opportunity, they've outsold the competition every month since they released new hardware and not once talked about numbers in any of those months or since the release of the new hardware...
 
The only sad thing would be if anyone was expecting any different. They've always done this.

Open your eyes and ears and just observe the trends. Ms loves the moving goalposts. It's their dna and culture and a bit of American culture really.
 
So why would it matter if their were only talking about American monthly sales then?

I don't understand the objection here. My point is, there is a reason they have not been announcing sales figures, be it in the USA or elswhere on the planet. They are trailing far behind, so it makes absolute sense to keep those figures under wraps...
 
Huh? The S not a separate console. It is merely replacing the old model, so counting its sales separately is not an option. Unless I misinterpreted your comment...

Its a new design, with additional capabilities and hardware that the original design does not have and cannot match. And clearly they did exactly that when talking about the best selling console since the slim was introduced.
 
Did you actually watch the video?

It's a completely stock standard "This is our product, this is what you get for the price" video.

The only cringeworthy part is the responses to the TITLE of the video.

What was cringeworthy about the ad? It's a mishmash of games and a bunch of undeniable facts about the system, it's tech and services. Explain.

Any reasonable person would think you didn't watch and blindly post.
I didn't. I watched it now and other than the non specified 100 console exclusive segment, it's a cool, well done commercial. Because of that moronic title in the video, my point stands though.
Did you even watch the Ad? If so You must think Sony's montages at their conferences are the most cringe worth, pathetic pieces of advertisement too then.
No because Sony's advertising isn't based on that weekend when I went to grandmas, x console sold better type of shit you would see in a grade school argument. Saying that, it's not like Sony isn't prone to dumb commercials. I still don't know what the crying baby ones were supposed to be, other than to freak people out on not buying their devices.
 
Its a new design, with additional capabilities and hardware that the original design does not have and cannot match. And clearly they did exactly that when talking about the best selling console since the slim was introduced.

The old model is being phased out, so I disagree with the assertion that they consider the S as a parrallel console. That role will be fulfilled by the Scorpio. As to their splashing the news of having taken three consecutive months in America, I find it a smart move. They ought to be more agressive as they make most of their sales during the Holidays, espcially that they have a more compelling end-of-the-year software offer. But I fail to see how that has anything to do with the S being a new system...
 
The only sad thing would be if anyone was expecting any different. They've always done this.

Open your eyes and ears and just observe the trends. Ms loves the moving goalposts. It's their dna and culture and a bit of American culture really.

Lol this is such bullshit.
 
Lol this is such bullshit.

Mad or just lack introspection?

We have a litigious and hypocritical culture that is all about saving face and looking good for the cameras. Shouldn't be news to anyone.

Also being afraid to admit faults, take blame, accept criticism, and etc etc. It's very American and ironically very pretentious in our American culture even though people here say we're the opposite of pretenders or pretentious. Or is just willful blindness and selfishness I can never remember these days.
 
The comments of the video are funny, there's a guy arguing that it's true "yes! There is Condemned, and Gears 1,2,3,4, Forza Horizon 1, 2, 3, Forza 2, 3, 4, 5, 6" etc etc etc, 70 of the games he's naming are 360s. xD

I don't mind the ad, the only thing that I don't like is the sentence "the ultimate game and 4K enterteinment system" some people will think that it also plays games at 4K... I often see people being confused that the Xbox One S is same than the PS4 Pro "but I heard that there is a power boost and also 4K"... :/ And of course MS does nothing to be more clear about it...

Better to know the games you bought already can be played on your current console than to be forced to re-buy the same game every couple of years for no reason, surely.
 
In what world is releasing two brand new hardware considered complacency? If you don't like them then that's your opinion but I'm talking about in general.

Yup. Not to mention lining up so much first party content that it filled almost their entire E3 conference this year with just a few third party games even needing to be mentioned.
Obviously next year it'll have to be more balanced though with so many titles announced at once.
 
I really do not understand people's objection for the competition selling well. It's like they have a personal stake Sony aside from owning a piece of plastic.
 
The only sad thing would be if anyone was expecting any different. They've always done this.

Open your eyes and ears and just observe the trends. Ms loves the moving goalposts. It's their dna and culture and a bit of American culture really.
Mad or just lack introspection?

We have a litigious and hypocritical culture that is all about saving face and looking good for the cameras. Shouldn't be news to anyone.

Also being afraid to admit faults, take blame, accept criticism, and etc etc. It's very American and ironically very pretentious in our American culture even though people here say we're the opposite of pretenders or pretentious. Or is just willful blindness and selfishness I can never remember these days.
This thread is really delivering some great posts. I'm in tears.
 
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