metareferential
Member
Did you read my post?
Yes, I bought it: used, at half the retail price. But that's not the point.
See p3tran post.
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Xbox One Will STILL Function if Kinect Isn't Plugged In.
- Thread starter Speedy Blue Dude
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Did you read my post?
Yes, I bought it: used, at half the retail price. But that's not the point.
See p3tran post.
CosmicQueso
Member
Everything he's saying is either factually true, or can be reasonably assumed.
I'm no Giesophile, but he's not saying anything worthy of scorn.
IdreamofHIME
Member
They really need to rename this console Xbox 180.
Can't believe how much they keep caving in on all these policies they thought up. You gotta wonder who spearheaded them all and what they're thinking right about now.
Never seen Sony make competition shit it's pants so much since pre-PS2 launch.
Can't believe how much they keep caving in on all these policies they thought up. You gotta wonder who spearheaded them all and what they're thinking right about now.
Never seen Sony make competition shit it's pants so much since pre-PS2 launch.
BluePigGanon
Member
I sincerely hope MS doesn't release a Kincetless SKU. I know this will pain some people to read, but Kinect really is the most intriguing thing about the Xbox One. Strip that away and you have a box that's slightly less powerful than the PS4 and doesn't really do anything super novel.
I get lots of people aren't interested in Kinect, but I have two thoughts:
1) People who hate Kinect hate current Kinect, Kinect v1, which is very hateable. But this is Kinect v2, and the concept of Kinect, if it worked well, is interesting.
2) They are forcing a bundle for the same reason past gens forced hard drives or forced ethernet adaptors: so devs know what the default config is. Make Kinect a "maybe present" accessory and who the hell would bother with it?
I get lots of people aren't interested in Kinect, but I have two thoughts:
1) People who hate Kinect hate current Kinect, Kinect v1, which is very hateable. But this is Kinect v2, and the concept of Kinect, if it worked well, is interesting.
2) They are forcing a bundle for the same reason past gens forced hard drives or forced ethernet adaptors: so devs know what the default config is. Make Kinect a "maybe present" accessory and who the hell would bother with it?
i need pics.
chicagocubsfan
Member
I mean it can be worth it for people that want it. But as you can see by the reactions, some really don't want it at all.
What sought of graphical difference are you expecting
sublimit
Banned
So you want me to believe that not so long ago the system was impossible to function without Kinect and now all of a sudden it can?
Right.
No, we hate the concept of Kinect. Motion controls with no feedback.
theviolenthero
Member
Before this announcement 100% of all XB1 owners would plug in their Kinect.
After this announcement 99.9% of all XB1 owners would plug in their Kinect.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Most logical, sane people, understand this which is why im all for it in there from start to finish. Then, if they drop the price 50$ down the road, its even more value for your buck. Kinect aint going nowhere imo. The only way i see that happening is if Sony destroy them in sales, then they wont have a choice. I hope it doesn't come to that for their sake cause Xone without kinect is even less interesting.
8K, 120fps, James Cameron's Avatar! Dur.
Many will be surprised at how many multiplats look identical.
metareferential
Member
Which is a fair point.
Rendered moot since no "so-called-traiditional-core" game was hindered by the presence of Kinect.
One could argue about the shovelware, though. But even then, we have no way of knowing if those games prevented some good core franchises to come to light.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
I seriously doubt they said "impossible". I remember them saying that the system was designed with Kinect being always on in mind, yes. Nothing is impossible.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
I have never seen less faith from a company in their product.
GoofsterStud
Member
So is it official that you can use the system, play games, watch Netflix, navigate the OS without Kinect ever plugged in?
I'm still reading conflicting information. This could be the difference in buying an X1 or not. If this change is official... *cheers*
I'm still reading conflicting information. This could be the difference in buying an X1 or not. If this change is official... *cheers*
Listening to their potential customers and changing stuff to make their product more attractive to those potential customers.
Like any decent business would do.
Moon_frogger
Member
I'm not buying the thing but I'm betting most of you will keep it plugged in and turned on 100 percent of the time
BluePigGanon
Member
Truth. Because why not? It's all so silly.
GoofsterStud
Member
Parents concerned about their children must be silly.
Pretty much... Hard to trust or even support a company that cannot stick to its vision. They might as well have not even had a plan for this thing.
Most probably, but this was the only thing keeping me from buying one. I look forward to destroying the kinect.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
No doubt. But in the end, it was just frustrating to see MS, a software company that specializes in making OSs and Server OSs with so many fucking options including the kitchen sink, give so few of them for their latest console. People want options.
Greater than the difference between 360 and PS3 which still meant Microsoft was the best place to play multiplats and now Sony will be. Even if the graphics are exactly the same, that will result in superior performance with less framerate dips on PS4.
They for the sake of a multi billion dollar investment in Kinect cannot exclude it from the console. By including it in every box from the start, regardless if you decide to use it or not, they set a precedent for what is available for developers. If the Kinect is there, and I said this earlier, devs can bank on it and not worry about their game struggling because of a low adoption rate of the kinect. Also, if devs start using it more, it will get better as Microsoft will learn from devs when helping them with the system.
I wish Sony would have decided to include the PS Eye because it helps the technology grow. Not including something as simple as a camera stagnates innovate control possibilities on the PS4 since there is no guarantee that anyone will buy the PS Eye.
I wish Sony would have decided to include the PS Eye because it helps the technology grow. Not including something as simple as a camera stagnates innovate control possibilities on the PS4 since there is no guarantee that anyone will buy the PS Eye.
BluePigGanon
Member
I'm sure there will be parental controls on the Xbox One.
I will.
I suspect some of the people concerned about privacy have willingly put details of their day on social networks at one point or another.
batman2million
Member
ChosenPredator
Banned
seems like their doing everything gaf wants soon there will be nothing to poopoo on them about especially if they give people the 100 dollars off - i dont mind the kinect bundled version though mines will always be connected as well as my ps4
GoofsterStud
Member
Well with the family plans monitoring system being retired they better have a substitute in place and it needs to be more customizable than ever.
scaryrobots
Banned
Pretty sure your script says something about phones, not social networks.
metareferential
Member
People worried about unplugged Kinects using internet and mobile phones.
Clever.
Clever.
GoofsterStud
Member
What?
My phone isn't pointed to my bed 24/7. In fact, the case covers the camera, and I manually slide it to expose the camera...so it's not looking at me the whole time. >.> Seriously people, try harder.
base shagohod
Member
That's all I wanted.
Thank you based Ballmer.
Thank you based Ballmer.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
Why do people just want another PS4? What is good about a PS4 with worse specs?
Shouldn't there be some desire for a little differentiation in the platforms?
If MS is just set on making a PS4 with crappier specs then why are they even bothering? Lead the industry towards your vision or don't bother. OG Xbox made broadband and HDD mandatory when they were optional on every console that came before it. Maybe it would have been more profitable to make broadband and HDD optional, but then Xbox and Xbox Live wouldn't be where they are today.
If MS believes in Kinect then make it mandatory. If MS doesn't believe in Kinect then they really don't have anything better than Sony this generation. At this point the only vote of confidence they have left is including Kinect in the box and that is hanging by a thread.
David H Wong
Banned
I love all of the people pretending to have never heard of the human concept of privacy. "Why WOULDN'T you let strangers bug your house and put you on camera 24 hours a day? It's ridiculous!"
Yet they give phones + PC's with webcams,GPS, microphones, tons of personal data and have access to a lot of things a child should not be seeing.
This ''kinect is spying on you'' is stupid conspiracy rubbish.
If the government wanted to spy on you they can already, Its called surveillance and its been around since world war 2.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I read it in my cisco class dude nsa can ipv4 into your modem through a government funded vpn and cache the data into a tor encapsulation using 802.1q. It hides itself in your internet browser.
Sounds like it's fully operational and Written said in the 3rd question that if a games needs it it will prompt you to either plug it in or turn it on.
GoofsterStud
Member
I'm okay with it as long as they keep the Kinect in the box at launch. I'd be willing to bet that there will be a lot of users that might unplug the Kinect in the beginning but after more games come out that use it to augment standard game play it will become too much of a hassle to keep unplugging and plugging it back in.
I'm getting a PS4 at launch as well as getting an XBOne but the more these changes keep getting made I start to think I might as well cancel my pre-order. If they decide to not include the Kinect in the box then I'll probably do just that. I want my XBOne experience to be different from my PS4 experience. If it just comes down to 2 similar consoles and a battle with who has the better exclusive games then I see very little reason for there to even be 2 different consoles.
I'm getting a PS4 at launch as well as getting an XBOne but the more these changes keep getting made I start to think I might as well cancel my pre-order. If they decide to not include the Kinect in the box then I'll probably do just that. I want my XBOne experience to be different from my PS4 experience. If it just comes down to 2 similar consoles and a battle with who has the better exclusive games then I see very little reason for there to even be 2 different consoles.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
But we were told that NSA was spying on us! I wanted to walk around naked and play games naked dammit!
At this point, they just don't have a choice. The system simply can't be competitive with a $100 price disadvantage, at least outside the US. Sony forced their hand on going to a lowest common denominator on the price point.
MS will release a Kinect-less SKU at some point. It's just a question of how long they want to hold out at the expense of losing the early market share to Sony.
David H Wong
Banned
"They post on Facebook, so they must be okay with a high-definition camera and microphone recording everything they do in their own home!"
You people are trolling, right?